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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
Didn't you leave Dakka?

He tried to, but Dakka is addictive. He couldn't resist the allure.

And then he got wind of someone who posted a thread questioning FW "legality"...

The masterclass looks pretty cool, but I'm really just waiting for the next HH book to sink my teeth into. Need my HH fluff fix
A new Primarch would also be neat though. They can't hide away Dorn too much longer...

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
Is this FW creating some sort of an "Armtober" thing or something?

Nope, just a new release we knew had to be coming soon. The assembly instructions for the giant walker had a picture of the fusion arm so we knew exactly what we're getting, and there's no real reason to wait a long time before putting it up for sale.

My joke failed

So, this is just padding. Oh well. I shall continue waiting for my DA HH stuff

O Corswain, Corswain! wherefore art thou Corswain?

I too am waiting for the guy that will hand sigismunds ass to him in a challenge!

 BrookM wrote:
And today we got..



http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/KX139-Ta'unar-Supremacy-Armour-Fusion-Eradicator

The painted arm shown by itself has a bit of a Mantic Enforcer style to it.

 Haighus wrote:
The masterclass looks pretty cool, but I'm really just waiting for the next HH book to sink my teeth into. Need my HH fluff fix
A new Primarch would also be neat though. They can't hide away Dorn too much longer...

Corax should be next^^ but well, FW and release schedules >.>

I'm looking forward to seeing Corax actually, a lot. I'm not as bothered about Dorn

 Atia wrote:

 Haighus wrote:
The masterclass looks pretty cool, but I'm really just waiting for the next HH book to sink my teeth into. Need my HH fluff fix
A new Primarch would also be neat though. They can't hide away Dorn too much longer...

Corax should be next^^ but well, FW and release schedules >.>

You misspelled Dorn.

Do you save 15 quid on this bundle or is my math off?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-IE/Tau-Advanced-Battlesuit-Cadre

 Atia wrote:

 Zuul wrote:
Has there been any mention of the rumoured Heresy masterclass book at any of the recent shows?

should be available this year :/

they actually plan to release the HH Masterclass, IA: Mymeara second edition and Retalliation this year^^

but FW's release schedule isn't that set in stone, mind that^^

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a Masterclass?

When O' when is the Ordinatus to be released?

 Vash108 wrote:

 Atia wrote:

 Zuul wrote:
Has there been any mention of the rumoured Heresy masterclass book at any of the recent shows?

should be available this year :/

they actually plan to release the HH Masterclass, IA: Mymeara second edition and Retalliation this year^^

but FW's release schedule isn't that set in stone, mind that^^

Excuse my ignorance, but what is a Masterclass?

book about painting - with actual techniques, not like the GW painting "guides" ^^

 Vash108 wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a Masterclass?

Step by step guides for the advanced painting/weathering/diorama building techniques FW uses, and a bunch of pretty pictures of finished models. It's half art book, half painting tutorial. The first one is incredibly useful for learning how to paint realistic historical-style models, the second one is nice but a bit redundant since the first book did such a good job, and we'll see what they manage to do with the third book.

Oh, and unlike GW's painting guides, the FW masterclass books actually acknowledge the existence of non-GW products (at least where GW doesn't make an equivalent product) so they're free to cover things like oil paint weathering.

Picked up the relevant White Dwarf Weekly myself earlier today and these guys are oozing with style and detail. Bit of a shame though, as all the other troop choices have a nice and uniform look, while these guys stand out quite a bit.

However, the last guy with the helmet would nicely fit in with a Storm Section while the middle guy is ideal for a Tactical Command Squad.

They do have their share of odd bits, two of them sport dentures on either a working tray or dangling from the belt.

 BrookM wrote:
Picked up the relevant White Dwarf Weekly myself earlier today and these guys are oozing with style and detail. Bit of a shame though, as all the other troop choices have a nice and uniform look, while these guys stand out quite a bit.

However, the last guy with the helmet would nicely fit in with a Storm Section while the middle guy is ideal for a Tactical Command Squad.

They do have their share of odd bits, two of them sport dentures on either a working tray or dangling from the belt.

yeah, and the third one would look great next to some Solar Auxilia Ogryns

Sadly not an option: Orderlies may only be attached to Tactical Command Squads, Lasrifle Sections, Storm Sections and Auxilia Flamer Sections.

The Solar Auxilia range as a whole doesn't really interest me that much, but those three models might be the best sculpted infantry models I've ever seen.

They are amazing.

I'm not sure I'd want to shout for the medic lol. Pretty creepy looking those medicae lol.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Vash108 wrote:
Excuse my ignorance, but what is a Masterclass?

Step by step guides for the advanced painting/weathering/diorama building techniques FW uses, and a bunch of pretty pictures of finished models. It's half art book, half painting tutorial. The first one is incredibly useful for learning how to paint realistic historical-style models, the second one is nice but a bit redundant since the first book did such a good job, and we'll see what they manage to do with the third book.

Oh, and unlike GW's painting guides, the FW masterclass books actually acknowledge the existence of non-GW products (at least where GW doesn't make an equivalent product) so they're free to cover things like oil paint weathering.

I own both of the FW books.

I would not suggest them for the majority of modelling enthusiasts on a budget. Sure, there are some neat tips and techniques in there, and there is a very short section on hobby tools that can be useful (that section is almost identical between the two books, by the way). However, they are extremely expensive, and a huge chunk of the books is just pictures of weathered FW tanks that boil down to a build section that is, "see how we added neat stuff hanging off the side of the tank?" and a paint section that is, "airbrush, apply pigments, remember to seal the weathering powder!". Obviously, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but not by a ton.

There are some nice pictures in Book 2 of a revenant titan, but there's not a ton of instructional on how to get there. There isn't very much in any of the books in terms of how to improve techniques and skills, though, as I said, there are a few neat tricks. Oh yeah, have fun looking for Klear now, if you don't own a stash from a decade ago Anyone who is looking for something to bridge the gap between "How to paint Citadel Miniatures" to more advanced techniques like wet blending or glazing, tips on freehand, or how to get extra mileage out of an airbrush beyond basecoat and priming or simple gradients will be disappointed. There is very little on painting infantry-sized models; almost all of it is for tanks, flyers and titans.

The sections on custom terrain boards & dioramas is pretty cool, but again, a *little* light on the instructional. Ironically, the amount of instruction on Forge World modelling products (like weathering powders) is relatively light, and the section on working with resin -- in particular, cleaning up Forge World resin models -- could be a little more detailed.

All in all, I would say that they are beautiful books that provide inspiration and the odd tip for experienced modelers, rather than great instructional material for beginning-to-intermediate modelers seeking to up their game.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
I'm not sure I'd want to shout for the medic lol. Pretty creepy looking those medicae lol.

Life was cheap even back then, but when you're a mere mortal fighting alongside demi-gods you can't be too squeamish about that.

These guys are mostly geared towards quick solutions (seal the wound or cut away the offending part or a quick mercy shot) and salvage though, there's plenty of Thallax units awaiting a new fleshy interior.

Im not overly versed in the miniature world... however i don't think ive ever seen such amazing detail out of a model as those medicae before. It's incredible the detail. My favorite is the guy with the injector pulling on his sleeve, or the other guy with his thumb tucked into his chest piece. It gives such a sense of realism compared to a static pose.

Im not even sure what solar are but i'd be interested just to attempt to paint those lol!

The Solar Auxilia are an elite predecessor of the Imperial Guard at time of the Horus Heresy.

It's saying something when I'd rather have the commisar over the medic, great job!

 Pyronick wrote:
Im not overly versed in the miniature world... however i don't think ive ever seen such amazing detail out of a model as those medicae before. It's incredible the detail. My favorite is the guy with the injector pulling on his sleeve, or the other guy with his thumb tucked into his chest piece. It gives such a sense of realism compared to a static pose.

Im not even sure what solar are but i'd be interested just to attempt to paint those lol!

Could be that they were done by Edgar Skomorowski, he's not with Forge World anymore but I think he did the rest of the Solar Auxilia and Lietpold the Black (Fantasy Empire):

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Solar-Auxilia-Lasrifle-Section
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Solar-Auxilia-Flamer-Section
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Solar-Auxilia-Veletaris-Storm-Section
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Lietpold-the-Black

He tends to have quite fine details (sometimes a bit too many) on his work and that stuff is more or less only possible with resin miniatures (all the undercuts wouldn't be quite possible with injection moulding).

Mario wrote:

 Pyronick wrote:
Im not overly versed in the miniature world... however i don't think ive ever seen such amazing detail out of a model as those medicae before. It's incredible the detail. My favorite is the guy with the injector pulling on his sleeve, or the other guy with his thumb tucked into his chest piece. It gives such a sense of realism compared to a static pose.

Im not even sure what solar are but i'd be interested just to attempt to paint those lol!

Could be that they were done by Edgar Skomorowski, he's not with Forge World anymore but I think he did the rest of the Solar Auxilia and Lietpold the Black (Fantasy Empire):

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Solar-Auxilia-Lasrifle-Section
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Solar-Auxilia-Flamer-Section
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Solar-Auxilia-Veletaris-Storm-Section
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Lietpold-the-Black

He tends to have quite fine details (sometimes a bit too many) on his work and that stuff is more or less only possible with resin miniatures (all the undercuts wouldn't be quite possible with injection moulding).

Edgars last model was Eidolon afaik - i think Irsaels takes over the Solar Auxilia line, so maybe he designed them (or Edgar designed them before Eidolon and they just didn't get released till yet?) - i know he has done the veletaris axes^^

They look so wonderfully sinister. I love the guy with the chainsaw thingy.

 Talys wrote:
Obviously, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but not by a ton.

It's a huge exaggeration. I don't know about you, but I learned a lot from the first book (the second was, as I said, a bit redundant). Just being able to see each individual step of the weathering process helps a lot with understanding what you're supposed to be doing. You might be able to get the same information for less money from the historical modeling community, but you're still going to need essentially the same tutorials either way.

Anyone who is looking for something to bridge the gap between "How to paint Citadel Miniatures" to more advanced techniques like wet blending or glazing, tips on freehand, or how to get extra mileage out of an airbrush beyond basecoat and priming or simple gradients will be disappointed.

Well yeah, of course you're not going to get those things because wet blending/freehand/etc are a completely different style of painting. The FW masterclass books are about teaching a historical-style kind of painting where base coats are fairly simple, airbrush shading is subtle, and most of the detail comes from the weathering process. Obviously if you want to use a GW catalog style of painting (dramatic highlights, clean colors, etc) or do cheap "look at me I have an airbrush" commission painting it's not going to be a very useful book. But preferring a different style doesn't make the information useless to other people.

There is very little on painting infantry-sized models; almost all of it is for tanks, flyers and titans.

Yep, that's what you should expect from a FW book. It's all about the big centerpiece models, if you want to learn to paint infantry you're looking in the wrong place.

rtb02 wrote:
It's saying something when I'd rather have the commisar over the medic, great job!

Sorry to disappoint, but the Solar Auxilia does not have disciplinary officers. You'll have to make do with the orderlies instead.

 Atia wrote:
i know he has done the veletaris axes^^

Any word on when those will pop up for pre-order?

Any word about the next IA book? Seeing as it's rumoured to be Tau vs Admech, I'd guess it'll be coming soon in order to coincide with the Tau releases? I just hope it has some rules for fielding Mechanicum units in Cult Mechanicus/Skitarii armies (in small numbers accounting for their rarity, of course)...