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How much do we reckon the Barracuda will be now then?

Add 30% to the old price.

That seems to bet the trend, but my gosh that is sweet looking.

 Gamgee wrote:
YESSS!!! All the marine players are going to get shot down! Muahah! Tears! Looks like FW heard the Tau fans begging for some Railweapon options on their stuff since GW ignored our pleas. The Railgun and HRR might be good if they were ever found on anything other than the Broadsides and Hammerheads.

This calls for some Highway to the Danger Zone.

Watch, it'll be a poor maneuvering brick and an Attack Flyer so the Stormhawk and Crimson Hunter will wreck it without any fear of retaliation.

 Gamgee wrote:
YESSS!!! All the marine players are going to get shot down! Muahah! Tears! Looks like FW heard the Tau fans begging for some Railweapon options on their stuff since GW ignored our pleas. The Railgun and HRR might be good if they were ever found on anything other than the Broadsides and Hammerheads.

This calls for some Highway to the Danger Zone.

There is only one music reference you need here, and it’s not “Highway to the Danger Zone”

If you can’t figure out what it is, your Heart isn’t into it.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
YESSS!!! All the marine players are going to get shot down! Muahah! Tears! Looks like FW heard the Tau fans begging for some Railweapon options on their stuff since GW ignored our pleas. The Railgun and HRR might be good if they were ever found on anything other than the Broadsides and Hammerheads.

This calls for some Highway to the Danger Zone.

There is only one music reference you need here, and it’s not “Highway to the Danger Zone”

If you can’t figure out what it is, your Heart isn’t into it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4nWy8pmIM4

I think this is what he meant

 Padre wrote:

Fine, make me see if I can figure out how to link a youtube video...




(OK, that was easy)

 Padre wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
YESSS!!! All the marine players are going to get shot down! Muahah! Tears! Looks like FW heard the Tau fans begging for some Railweapon options on their stuff since GW ignored our pleas. The Railgun and HRR might be good if they were ever found on anything other than the Broadsides and Hammerheads.

This calls for some Highway to the Danger Zone.

There is only one music reference you need here, and it’s not “Highway to the Danger Zone”

If you can’t figure out what it is, your Heart isn’t into it.

Top Gun not ring any bells?

Oh man, that Barracuda... now I'm seriously tempted to grab a DftS book (if it's a Fighter. C'mon, FW!)

 Padre wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
YESSS!!! All the marine players are going to get shot down! Muahah! Tears! Looks like FW heard the Tau fans begging for some Railweapon options on their stuff since GW ignored our pleas. The Railgun and HRR might be good if they were ever found on anything other than the Broadsides and Hammerheads.

This calls for some Highway to the Danger Zone.

There is only one music reference you need here, and it’s not “Highway to the Danger Zone”

If you can’t figure out what it is, your Heart isn’t into it.

Though really, if one is playing a DFTS game without Danger Zone playing during every Dogfight phase, they also make me sad.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Padre wrote:

 Nevelon wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
YESSS!!! All the marine players are going to get shot down! Muahah! Tears! Looks like FW heard the Tau fans begging for some Railweapon options on their stuff since GW ignored our pleas. The Railgun and HRR might be good if they were ever found on anything other than the Broadsides and Hammerheads.

This calls for some Highway to the Danger Zone.

There is only one music reference you need here, and it’s not “Highway to the Danger Zone”

If you can’t figure out what it is, your Heart isn’t into it.

don't worry, we gotcha .
Top Gun not ring any bells?

Here's what I think its packing-

Wing turrets have what appear to be:
2x Auto-targeting Burst Cannon - 18" 5/5/Assault 4\Auto-targeting: Weapons with this special rule ignore any cover saves or cover save bonuses provided by the Supersonic or Jink special rules, as well as any provided by moving Flat Out.

I would think they would be the standard weapons or can be swapped for

Cyclic Ion Rakers (because of their size - I wouldn't think they were CIBs)
(overchrg) 24" 8/4/Heavy 1, Large Blast, Gets Hot
(std) 24" 7/4/Assault 6

4 Seeker Missiles 72" 8/3/Heavy 1, One Use Only

Nose Gun -
I bet the standard weapon is a modified Heavy Burst Cannon 36" 6/4/Heavy 8, Rending

Can be swapped for

Rail Gun Railgun (solid) 72" 10/1/Heavy 1
Railgun (submunition) 72" 6/4/Heavy 1, Large Blast

OR

Ion Cannon (ovrchrg) 60" 8/3/Heavy 1, Gets Hot, Large Blast
Ion Cannon (std) 60" 7/3/Heavy 3

Still unanswered

- Each wing looks like it has a missile pod with 5 missiles.
- There appears to be a rear facing turret
- Based on the new flyer rules what kind of flyer will this be. Fighter or Ground attack
- Armor values and HP etc....

The chain gun in the front screams A10

Please, no Attack Flyer. We already have the Razorshark for that, and Remoras aren't that much Fighter-y to begin with.

And I agree with you about the weapon configs. in ATT, the 'rear turret' has been considered to be some kind of thrust vector (Vector Dance on this beauty would be lovely).

Anyway, is so beautiful. My Heart claims for 4 of them!

Whatever it is, it will be GLORIOUS!

I was so gutted when the old one went OOP, it was a lovely and practical model and I wanted another, but this exceeds my wildest dreams for a redesign!


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With regards to the weapons, the old one had a forward facing twin-linked missile pod, so I guess they kept that option (I don't think there's quite enough missiles for it to be upgraded to a HYMP). If that is a turret on the back I'd guess at a twin-linked smart missile system, which would be kind of useless, but hey.

 Jadenim wrote:
Whatever it is, it will be GLORIOUS!

I was so gutted when the old one went OOP, it was a lovely and practical model and I wanted another, but this exceeds my wildest dreams for a redesign!


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With regards to the weapons, the old one had a forward facing twin-linked missile pod, so I guess they kept that option (I don't think there's quite enough missiles for it to be upgraded to a HYMP). If that is a turret on the back I'd guess at a twin-linked smart missile system, which would be kind of useless, but hey.

Useless because the str and Ap or because its rear facing? If its because its rear facing, doesn't the homing rule, and its ignore line of sight ability mean that as long as the weapon is in range it wouldn't matter what the facing was?

It's S5/AP5 and if mounted on the rear face as a defensive weapon it will be going against front armour on most other fliers, which is generally 11 or 12, so not particularly useful.

With DftS dogfighting rules, having a rear-facing weapon can be useful

 Vector Strike wrote:
Please, no Attack Flyer. We already have the Razorshark for that, and Remoras aren't that much Fighter-y to begin with.

And I agree with you about the weapon configs. in ATT, the 'rear turret' has been considered to be some kind of thrust vector (Vector Dance on this beauty would be lovely).

Anyway, is so beautiful. My Heart claims for 4 of them!

The Barracuda doesn't look like much of a Fighter. It is a bit bulky for that. Time will tell. But they don't seem to just be giving people Fighters just to check a box.

This is literally just a resculpt of the existing barracuda with some additional weapon options. pretty sure there is nk rear turret, looks more like a vectored thrust nozzle.

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Vector Strike wrote:
Please, no Attack Flyer. We already have the Razorshark for that, and Remoras aren't that much Fighter-y to begin with.

And I agree with you about the weapon configs. in ATT, the 'rear turret' has been considered to be some kind of thrust vector (Vector Dance on this beauty would be lovely).

Anyway, is so beautiful. My Heart claims for 4 of them!

The Barracuda doesn't look like much of a Fighter. It is a bit bulky for that. Time will tell. But they don't seem to just be giving people Fighters just to check a box.

If the most fly-worth aircraft in the game doesn't look like a fighter, what does? Eldar stuff is bizarre, Imperial aircraft are all boxy...

It looks like a Tau A10, which isn't much of a fighter compared to other modern fighter jets.

 reds8n wrote:
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Not only has the design of the Barracuda been updated, take a look at all of the new weapon options that come in the kit…


The new Barracuda will be available first at Warhammer Fest. If want to get hold of this awesome new model before anyone else, then make sure you’re at the event this weekend! Tickets are available on the door, and you can find more information HERE.

That....is beautiful.

[MOD EDIT - Please try to avoid huge quoting huge blocks of text in order to only add a sentence or two - thanks! Alpharius]

3m24s How the Tau deal with unknown "super" enemies. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXkPWEIY8wM Say what you will about the movie but this one scene is perfect.

I really like the new Barracuda model.

Holy gak, that new barracuda was beautiful! I was pretty sure they were updating it when they took it down, but I thought it was going to be a basic cast update, nothing this awesome!

It looks exactly like how I dreamed a Tau A-10 inspired aircraft would look and its getting a lot of positive buzz out there.

Now if GW doesn't make Tau a hovering flyer then you should do it FW. Make one inspired by the Apache Gunship + Comanche Gunship + M-28 Hind + That sleek Tau look. A sexy sleek Tau version of the Vendetta. You will literally sell so much of this model. Give it some awesome ground attack options.

A second version could be the transport version of the Tau Gunship.

Finally we should get an equivalent of a super heavy flyer that can be the equivalent to the AC-130. Bristling from the side of this would be a Pulse Ordinance Gun from the Stormsurge, a long range Ion Cannon, and a long range Heavy Burst Cannon. Has two networked ML and comes with Nightvision by default. It would be classified as a "bomber" despite not being a traditional one.

The Barracuda, in it's old fluff, was an air superiority fighter, and considered roughly on par with the Thunderbolt by the Imperium (used to cost 5pts more than a Thunderbolt). Also, having a large rotary cannon doesn't make a plane an A-10- many modern fighters also use a rotary cannon as their close-in weapon, although some use chain guns or revolver cannon. So I really hope it doesn't get made into an Attack flyer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M61_Vulcan

I would imagine it is still the Air Superiority fighter of the Tau Empire as they still have the AX-1-0 Tiger Shark to use as their dedicated ground support.

Or they have made it a Multi-Role Aircraft, capable of Air Superiority, and Strike roles. Which would be dependent on upgrades.

I still feel it's still the most air superiority of all the Tau fighters as well. Even if you use DftS rules it only gets -1BS when firing at ground targets. So it could still turn out great.

I doubt we'll see DftS become mainstream they just aren't well thought out enough.

The old barracuda functioned well as both, missiles pods and regular ion shots for fighters, overcharged ion shot for ground troops. Although most of the tau's anti-air comes in the form of skyrays and missile-sides.