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Hello there!
I Have been working on a CSM CS list, i want to try and make it competative and enjoyable to play. Please give me your 5 cents.

HQ 200 pt
Lord on bike, Blade of the relentless, Pistol, Deamonheart, MoS, SoC, Slaughterers horns

Elites 185pt
Termies with MON
one with reaper autocannon
2 with combimeltas
champion without anything speacial

Troops 542 pt
10 Cultists

Noise marines
7 with Sonic blasters
1 blastmaster
Champion with bolter

Noise marines
IoE
7 with pistol and CCW
Champion with doom siren and melta bombs
VOTLW

Fast attack 397 pt
Bikers with MoS
5 Bikers, 2 with meltas
Biker Champ with Dual Lightning claws

Heldrak with flamer

Heavy Support 175
Forgefiend with Hades Autocannon

The idea is to have the CCw marines hold center with support from shooty Marines, the general goes with the bikes and try to flank. Hopefully getting some easy targets to get the sword going. The drake and Fiend are just killing support. I really enjoy the fiend, since he can do well against all targets. I have tried running cheaper termies and having Possesd with a lord holding center, but i feel possesd where alittle underwhelming. For taking down big stuff i have the fiend and some melta here and there. hopefully it will be enough. Else i can kill evrything else, and just hope his heavy stuff dont have enough dakka to take me down.

MoS is always going to be inferior to MoN due to ID being easy to obtain. ALWAYS remember that, as it will always be commented on. You don't even have IoE for your Bikers, which is the primary positive that MoS has over MoN and MoK. You also don't need dual Lightning Claws on the Biker Champ.

MoT is the superior mark for Terminators if you're not having a footslogging Lord to accompany to get majority T5.

VotLW is largely useless on Noise Marines. You're already Fearless and the Hatred for Space Marines isn't even worth the single point, even IF you know you're going to face them.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
MoS is always going to be inferior to MoN due to ID being easy to obtain. ALWAYS remember that, as it will always be commented on. You don't even have IoE for your Bikers, which is the primary positive that MoS has over MoN and MoK. You also don't need dual Lightning Claws on the Biker Champ.

MoT is the superior mark for Terminators if you're not having a footslogging Lord to accompany to get majority T5.

VotLW is largely useless on Noise Marines. You're already Fearless and the Hatred for Space Marines isn't even worth the single point, even IF you know you're going to face them.

I had IoE on bikers, just forgot to but it in there. The Lord have T5 from the bike, making him able to take powerfist attacks to the face without dying.

Why is VotLW useless on Noise marines that are kitted for close combat?

THe reson behind dual LC on champ is to get the extra attack if he gets stuck in challenge. since all i do is hit first, i realy want that first round of combat to count.