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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 12:24:01
Subject: Character LoW
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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What benefit does a character get if he becomes a Lord Of War?
It seems to me that it just frees up a HQ slot...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 12:48:11
Subject: Re:Character LoW
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Executing Exarch
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It's not about "benefits".
What "benefit" does a unit gain by being Fast Attack rather than Troops? None.
The same applies here, there are no intrinsic rules that apply to any Battlefield Role, although some rules do interact with them: For example - Troops in a Combined Arms Detachment gain Objective Secured as a benefit, but that's a rule of the detachment, not anything in the Role itself.
In most cases, LoW just stops you allying one in simply (as the Allied Detachment doesn't have a LoW slot, you'd need a CAD). It also means you still need to fill the mandatory HQ slot if you have a detachment that requires one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 13:59:52
Subject: Character LoW
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 14:29:05
Subject: Re:Character LoW
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Hellish Haemonculus
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Is there not a detachment which is just a LOW detachment?
In any event, it's also frequently a disadvantage. It's common to see events restrict or ban LOW units.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 14:43:19
Subject: Character LoW
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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For the Imperial Knights codex there is. Can't think of another that allows just a LoW.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 14:52:34
Subject: Character LoW
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Can IK armies, as forces of the IOM, take other Lords of War? Because a legal detachment of 3 Reaver titans would be hilarious.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 15:02:44
Subject: Character LoW
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Yes and they'd all have ObSec too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 16:37:21
Subject: Re:Character LoW
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Did Fulgrim Just Behead Ferrus?
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I think GW's intent with making some characters into Lords of War was to limit how many you would have in an army. Of course, I think GW still operates under the idea that people don't use multiple CADs, but instead one CAD plus Allied Detachment or other formations.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 16:42:51
Subject: Character LoW
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Fixture of Dakka
Vanished Completely
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They also had a very good Rule for limiting one of a particular Model already, called 'Unique,' that named characters filling a Lord of War role are likely to have. As much as I hate the terminology, the concept of 'troop tax' comes to mind...' want a second Baneblade, without resorting to unbound, then one needs to pay for an additional detachment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 17:22:31
Subject: Re:Character LoW
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I think GW's intent with making some characters into Lords of War was to limit how many you would have in an army. Of course, I think GW still operates under the idea that people don't use multiple CADs, but instead one CAD plus Allied Detachment or other formations.
I doubt the design studio think even remotely in the 1 CAD + 1 AD mindset. They've made that style of play repeatedly more and more impossible with each 7th Ed codex. Automatically Appended Next Post: In fact the move of Characters to LoW seems more the opposite of what is being stated here. Rather than making those characters seem less fieldable it seems far more likely that this was done to reduce the mind set that LoW belong only in Apoc as was largely the response to Escalation and early 7th.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 18:05:41
Subject: Character LoW
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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This is incorrect. All units in that detachment must have the Imperial Knights faction.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 18:13:19
Subject: Character LoW
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Steadfast Grey Hunter
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Which they would by virtue of being taken in an imperial knights detachment... Assuming reavers areisted in the allowed units section.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 18:17:48
Subject: Character LoW
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Not as Good as a Minion
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greytalon666 wrote:Which they would by virtue of being taken in an imperial knights detachment... Assuming reavers areisted in the allowed units section.
Reavers have no Faction, which is why they would can be taken in a Knights Detachment without a problem. But just being taken in a Detachment doesn't mean they gain that detachment's faction.
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Megavolt wrote:They called me crazy…they called me insane…THEY CALLED ME LOONEY!! and boy, were they right. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 18:22:07
Subject: Character LoW
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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Selym wrote:Can IK armies, as forces of the IOM, take other Lords of War?
Because a legal detachment of 3 Reaver titans would be hilarious.
IKs only have the option to take Imperial Knights as LoWs
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 19:02:57
Subject: Character LoW
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Lord Commander in a Plush Chair
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Most detatchments are x-faction or no faction; or state all same faction or no faction.
The knights detatchment are pure knights faction only.
Trying to claim a unit becomes a certain faction by virtue of sticking it in a detatchment us against the rules and would allow a gk faction detatchment(they have a specific one) to add daemons to it.
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This is my Rulebook. There are many Like it, but this one is mine. Without me, my rulebook is useless. Without my rulebook, I am useless.
Stop looking for buzz words and start reading the whole sentences.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 19:10:01
Subject: Character LoW
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Admittedly I haven't checked the FW FAQ on titans I thought it said they could be taken as a LoW as part of any Imperial Faction? Am I wrong on that?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 19:15:08
Subject: Character LoW
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald
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FlingitNow wrote:Admittedly I haven't checked the FW FAQ on titans I thought it said they could be taken as a LoW as part of any Imperial Faction? Am I wrong on that?
No, they proceed to list all the codexs that can take a Titan. Imperial Knights are not one of them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/30 19:22:01
Subject: Character LoW
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Ultramarine Chaplain with Hate to Spare
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Cool
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 03:13:37
Subject: Re:Character LoW
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Screaming Shining Spear
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Jimsolo wrote:Is there not a detachment which is just a LOW detachment?
30k has an optional (mission based) detachment that is pure lords of war
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/08/31 03:27:54
Subject: Re:Character LoW
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Lieutenant General
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Tannhauser42 wrote:I think GW's intent with making some characters into Lords of War was to limit how many you would have in an army. Of course, I think GW still operates under the idea that people don't use multiple CADs, but instead one CAD plus Allied Detachment or other formations.
I believe the majority (if not all) of the characters that are Lords of War are unique and therefore limited to one per army anyway.
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