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For ITC tourneys:

I believe that for a maelstrom mission, an IC attached to a unit cannot be counted as a "Destroyed Unit" ... I remember talking to Reece about it, but the out come of the conversation is fuzzy.

Clearer:
A group of muhreens with chaplain attached is shot with enemy Missile Launchers. The Chap dies. According to ITC, is that *not* a Maelstrom 'Destroyed Unit'?

I can't find it in the ITC FAQ nor Format.

FAQ:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1NkfW26mcJHaqDKlaZyA3PB-prM0k17-DuTifGv2mOG4/pub

Format:
https://www.frontlinegaming.org/community/frontline-gamings-independent-tournament-circuit/itc-2015-season-40k-tournament-format/

Anybody know where it is?

Because by the rules that is wrong. ICs counts as their own unit for killing purposes

 CrownAxe wrote:
Because by the rules that is wrong. ICs counts as their own unit for killing purposes

I know that the BRB agrees with you. However, this is not the point I am addressing.

Just like a 2+ Protected, Fortuned JetSeer council gets, 2+/2++ according to BRB, but the ITC ruled 2+/4++.

I play in the world of ITC, mostly West Coast U.S.A. And it is their ruling I'm looking at.

Thanks!

Maelstrom rules don't seem to be in the FaQ you linked, maybe that's why you can't find it?

 Brothererekose wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
Because by the rules that is wrong. ICs counts as their own unit for killing purposes

I know that the BRB agrees with you. However, this is not the point I am addressing.

Just like a 2+ Protected, Fortuned JetSeer council gets, 2+/2++ according to BRB, but the ITC ruled 2+/4++.

I play in the world of ITC, mostly West Coast U.S.A. And it is their ruling I'm looking at.

Thanks!

I play the ITC rules too. If they aren't in the FAQ then its not an actual rule

 CrownAxe wrote:

 Brothererekose wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
Because by the rules that is wrong. ICs counts as their own unit for killing purposes

I know that the BRB agrees with you. However, this is not the point I am addressing.

Just like a 2+ Protected, Fortuned JetSeer council gets, 2+/2++ according to BRB, but the ITC ruled 2+/4++.

I play in the world of ITC, mostly West Coast U.S.A. And it is their ruling I'm looking at.

Thanks!

I play the ITC rules too. If they aren't in the FAQ then its not an actual rule

Sorry, but that's another not helpful post. I don't need an " If they aren't in the FAQ " ... that would be "No, duh, man."

So, CrownAxe, if I may, I'm asking for help in finding it or verifying that it's not there. If *you* don't see it anywhere, then perhaps a "I play ITC, too. To the best of my knowledge, it isn't there."

There's a lot of text to read through on those things, so maybe I missed it, plus, there's a half remembered conversation with one of the ITC writers ....

Less ... 'unhelpful posts' would be great. You know, making dakka friendlier and all that.

That said,
Do tell me that you'll be at Know No Mercy. Maybe the organizers can give us a grudge match, as I throw down a gauntlet of challenge to your less than helpful posting.

Game on?

I don't know what else to say though. You are asking if a tournament's rules set has a rules change in it. The only place for it to be in their FAQ which you said you didn't find it in. So if its not their its not a rule because only that document has the rules changes. I didn't find it either if that helps you.

(Also probably not since I'm in San Diego. I am planning on going to LVO though and we could totally have a grudge match there)

 CrownAxe wrote:
I don't know what else to say though. You are asking if a tournament's rules set has a rules change in it. The only place for it to be in their FAQ which you said you didn't find it in. So if its not their its not a rule because only that document has the rules changes. I didn't find it either if that helps you.

(Also probably not since I'm in San Diego. I am planning on going to LVO though and we could totally have a grudge match there)

LVO it shall be. Got my ticket and room.

Friday night after Championship rounds. I'll PM you for details. I wonder if we already know each other. Been to Game Empire Pasadena lately?

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I found this in the rule and scoring format:

Big Game Hunter: At the end of the game, of all destroyed units, the player that destroyed the unit worth the most points wins this point.

Note: Independent Characters counts as their own unit, regardless of whether they are in another unit or not.

I guess that might be answer enough. Now I'm wondering what is in my head/memory with that conversation?

Wouldn' that ruling only count for the big game hunter do a response to OP would be a negative?

Naw wrote:
Wouldn' that ruling only count for the big game hunter do a response to OP would be a negative?

You're right in that it is specifically the Big Game Hunter's listing.

Given that it is in regards on how to score something I think it is indicative of what I am looking for ... not quite concise, though.