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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 17:56:20
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Guarded Grey Knight Terminator
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AlmightyWalrus wrote:A Warhound Titan gets four times the Str D shots per turn, so unless the KX-139 gets within melta range the good ol' 'Hound will probably win.
As a side-note, why would the KX-139 get FNP? It doesn't have it anywhere on its datasheet.
It has the Gargantuan Creature special rule. GCs all get FNP. While the datasheet lists some of the rules GCs get, it's not a complete list, but the core rulebook still grants GCs FNP and the datasheet does not contradict that. People arguing it doesn't get FNP are trying to ruleslawyer a nerf into existence.
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I am the Hammer. I am the right hand of my Emperor. I am the tip of His spear, I am the gauntlet about His fist. I am the woes of daemonkind. I am the Hammer. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 17:58:25
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Come to think of it, Corpsethief Claw and allied Farseers rolling for Invisibility might do it.
Farseer Skyrunner 115
Windriders 51
Scatterpack 81
Corpsethief Claw w/ Ichor Injectors 650
You best get Invisibility with your Farseer though, or else you can say bye bye to your deathstar with one swift D to the face.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 19:01:01
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Fresh-Faced New User
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Demon prince with the black mace. even with stomps, the thing isnt that good in melle
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 20:24:56
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Salt Lake City
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How my Kreigers would take it on...
4x DKoK Hades drills with melta and MB.
Deep strike, 4x melta shots, 4++ Sv. Next round, 4x D6+2 melta shred HoW attacks and 4x WS2 and 4x WS4 I1 melta hits. All for 100 pts. less. It might fail miserably, but at least those engineers will die glorious deaths!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 20:57:33
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Heroic Senior Officer
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And 16x WS4 krak grenades, as well. Oh and the 4 gas grenades, too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 21:09:22
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Hardened Veteran Guardsman
Salt Lake City
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 21:59:12
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Araqiel
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Except Maugan has EW and a 2++, I meant that he couldn't use barrage on his Str d one.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 23:47:03
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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This creature really isn't hard to put down. Weak compared to most standards. If you think otherwise then I laugh at you. Seriously.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 23:50:29
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Pain4Pleasure wrote:This creature really isn't hard to put down. Weak compared to most standards. If you think otherwise then I laugh at you. Seriously.
Agreed, especially in the case of Imperial Armies. For a mere 420 points give me x3 squads of Grav Kataphrons from Mechanicum in Drop Pods, bye bye Riptide.
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19th Krieg Siege Army 7500pts.
40k/HH Night Lords 5000pts.
Orks Waaaghmacht Spearhead 2500pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 23:50:42
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Ruthless Interrogator
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Pain4Pleasure wrote:This creature really isn't hard to put down. Weak compared to most standards. If you think otherwise then I laugh at you. Seriously.
 Obvious troll is obvious.
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Space Marines: Jacks of all trades yet masters of GRAV CANNONS!!!.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 23:54:35
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hmm so someone disagrees with some peoples opinion that the new suit is OP and he is automatically listed as a troll? Makes sense
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/09/19 23:55:22
19th Krieg Siege Army 7500pts.
40k/HH Night Lords 5000pts.
Orks Waaaghmacht Spearhead 2500pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 00:10:04
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
california
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gmaleron wrote:
Hmm so someone disagrees with some peoples opinion that the new suit is OP and he is automatically listed as a troll? Makes sense
Bahaha thank you. Tau players WANT this to be OP in hopes of them actually getting something good. Hearing the truth is probably hard for them to except
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2025/08/13 08:52:43
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Pain4Pleasure wrote:This creature really isn't hard to put down. Weak compared to most standards. If you think otherwise then I laugh at you. Seriously.
So, please, tell me how I takedown this thing with my CSM.
If you say 'Daemon Princes' you'll get the dreadsock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 00:32:34
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 00:35:47
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Heroic Senior Officer
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Dread sock?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 00:36:18
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Demon Prince flying circus spam is one option because it would totally negate the D weapon since its a template and cannot target flying units. Also psychic powers, as far as I am aware Gargantuan Creatures are not immune to psychic powers so you could do some horrible damage to it. Also it is somewhat unfair to compare an older codex for a unit that is looking more and more like it was intended for the new book.
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19th Krieg Siege Army 7500pts.
40k/HH Night Lords 5000pts.
Orks Waaaghmacht Spearhead 2500pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 01:05:55
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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Just kill the supporting Tau army. They're the problem.
You can drown the KX in summoned daemons afterwards.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 01:59:24
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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Smacked with an old metal Dreadnought in a sock.
Deadly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 02:29:10
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Stabbin' Skarboy
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Exalted! Dropped a chaos one on my foot once, 'strong hand' pointing down... not pleasant
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3500pts 1500pts 2500pts 4500pts 3500pts 2000pts 2000pts plus several small AOS armies |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 04:54:58
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Been Around the Block
Atlanta, Georgia
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So, my Eldar friend wants to give him credit, so George Griffin you thought of this, not me.
Aspect Shrine
5 Warp Spiders
Exarch, Spinneret Rifle
5 Warp Spiders
Exarch, Spinneret Rifle
5 Warp Spiders
Exarch, Spinneret Rifle
Aspect Shrine
4 Warp Spiders
Exarch, Spinneret Rifle
4 Warp Spiders
Exarch, Spinneret Rifle
4 Warp Spiders
Exarch, Spinneret Rifle
Math works out. This is 900 points of deepstriking weapons that will on average kill the T'aunar. Not sure how practical that is in a real game, but in a vacuum, it works.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 05:11:42
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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My birthday is soon. I'm grabbing one asap. It's simply too amazing not to purchase. I'll put the other new Tau stuff on hold.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 06:14:39
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Bounding Assault Marine
East Bay, USA
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CrownAxe wrote:Yoyoyo wrote:50 Lasguns can kill it in 1 shooting turn with Prescience, FRF, Monster Hunter, and Rending (from Misfortune).
Thats a tough one to do considering you can't order the same squad twice
Don't bring logic to a Lasgun fight
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 06:30:57
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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You can get Monster Hunter from Ulrik.
Or a DA Techmarine in a Hammer of Caliban formation.
Straken would have been more "fluff" but he's not an IC.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 06:34:25
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Human Auxiliary to the Empire
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I'd take 40 kroot and an ethereal in the middle of all of them and for the extra 300 points. Then the suit would be in a table edge and no one could drop, infiltrate, assault, move etc etc within 30 inches of it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 07:30:00
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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Skyhammer Annihilation Force, both devastator squads go with grav cannons, and assault squad sergeants take grav pistols.
At average, the Full Autism Armour will be taking ~20-30 hits, which wound on 2+ (devastators are Relentless after deep strike in the formation). Not feeling so safe with that 4++ save now do you? Two words: EAT. IT.
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Innocentia Nihil Probat.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 10:44:00
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Sorry guys but Min legal Ik army is 975 points. If it got into cc with a gallant or 2 though lawl
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 11:39:27
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Ruthless Interrogator
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gmaleron wrote:
Hmm so someone disagrees with some peoples opinion that the new suit is OP and he is automatically listed as a troll? Makes sense
No its the fact that he stated an opinion( with no proof to back it up) with a very flamey tagline of 'I laugh at all of you who disagree with me'.
It more or less looks like he's trying to get someone to argue with him by first stating something controversial.
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Space Marines: Jacks of all trades yet masters of GRAV CANNONS!!!.
My Star Wars Imperial Codex Project: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/641831.page
It has 7 HQs, 2 Troop types with Dedicated Transports, 5 Elite units, 5 Fast Attack units, 6 Heavy Support units, 2 Formations with unique units not in the rest of the codex, and 2 LOW choices.
‘I do not care who knows the truth now, tomorrow, or in ten thousand years. Loyalty is its own reward.’ -Lion El' Jonson |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 11:52:50
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Resolute Ultramarine Honor Guard
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Tigramans wrote:Skyhammer Annihilation Force, both devastator squads go with grav cannons, and assault squad sergeants take grav pistols.
At average, the Full Autism Armour will be taking ~20-30 hits, which wound on 2+ (devastators are Relentless after deep strike in the formation). Not feeling so safe with that 4++ save now do you? Two words: EAT. IT.
Don't forget to use Devastators doctrine. Since a skyhammer as anything but Ultramarines is heresy.
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warboss wrote:Is there a permanent stickied thread for Chaos players to complain every time someone/anyone gets models or rules besides them? If not, there should be. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 12:14:15
Subject: Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Longtime Dakkanaut
Moscow, Russia
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I think the problem with things like this is not its inherent toughness, but that it forces other armies into homogeneity.
By which I mean that now every Imperial army is going to have either lots of grav or Mechanicus or SM allies with lots of grav. It's going to be very boring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/20 12:18:35
Subject: Re:Kill the Tau Supremacy KX-139 challenge
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Journeyman Inquisitor with Visions of the Warp
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Here's the stylish way to one-shot this thing. No grav, no D, old school classics only.
1x Ordo Xenos Inquisitor (Force Sword, Rad Grenades, Digital Weapons, ML1)
2x BA Librarians (Force Axes, Digital Weapons, ML2)
6x BA Assault Terminators ( TH/ SS)
520pts. With Hammerhand, Force, Rad Grenades and Digital Weapons you will put down a little more than 10 unsaved wounds in one turn of combat. You could of course take Combi-Grav to concuss the KX but that would be breaking the rules!
Load up the Land Raider, cross your fingers, Tank Shock and flame your way through any sissy Tau bubble wrap and demonstrate how original G's get it done
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3 min squads of Repentia with rerolls from Ministorum Priests can one-shot the suit if they make it into combat. With Litanies that reroll is guaranteed.
So this giant Tau mech can get owned by a bunch of naked girls in masks with whips and swords? That's the most 40k thing ever
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