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Hi all. i am trying to sart a new army am i kindof want to do a pure slannesh or pure khorne army. i know for the khorne army i can play deamonkin but is a just slannesh army ok? my gaming group isnt that competitive

Yep it's playable and fast but also quite fragile. Definitely want fiends.

It is really fast and has some nasty tricks. If you want it to be more durable you could always ally CSM in and transport your squisshy pink death squads in landraiders.


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It for sure can be! Depends on what you would like to do.

If you want to go psyker and or summoning heavy, bringing ML3 CSM sorcerers, Heralds, KoS, etc.

Remember to always bring Grimoire and Portalgylph in every list you take as they are both quite amazing and very game changing for their points.

For a more traditional army the following are awesome for Slaneesh to use: Slaneesh Chaos Knight, Fiends or Seekers in a deathstar (e.g. max unit size) along with heralds on mounts - this along with grimoire/invis can make for a devestatingly strong unit, Soul Griders, the cheapest chariot (don't remember the name atm) in units of 3 can absolutely mow down any GEQ unit, noise marines with 2x blasts in min unit sized groups, for some less tradition options Fire raptor gunships, hell talons, sicarian battle tanks, and the typhon heavy siege tank are all awesome!

Slaanesh are one of the more potent daemon factions - due to their inherent speed and rending being far more valuable than some of their competitors' abilities.

With regards to the units in the daemons book:

Go for:
Heralds - cheap and provide easy access to telepathy powers. Invisibility or shrouded really is vital to winning tough games. Stick them on a steed most of the time.
Daemonettes - it's not like you have much choice, but they are good units in their own right.
Seekers - a faster, more expensive and lethal daemonette. Combine with telepathy powers, heralds and grimoire for maximum effect.
Soul grinders - either with torrent flamer or base work well with slaanesh.

Middle of the road:
Fiends of slaanesh - These guys aren't bad as such, but their role is often the same as seekers, and with only so many buffs to go round you are going to have to make sacrifices. They are slightly more durable than daemonettes, being T4, but do suffer vs str 8 weapons.

Avoid
KoS - walking MCs are out. If you want psychic then go for a herald.
Daemon princes - Already pretty costly when the book first came out. Changes to the psychic phase, FMCs, general codex creep and greater numbers of effective anti air choices available make these a poor choice.
The masque - Notice the lack of independent character? Will spend most of the game hiding or giving away first blood.
Chariots - I wish these were good, but despite some additions and changes in 7th edition they are still far too fragile for their points.

One issue you will run into is hard anti tank options.
AV 14 and imperial knights will be an issue.

On the plus side though, GMC are effected by rending like anyone else, so you have less to fear from wraithknights and the like.

From my experience you'll want to take 3 Soul Grinders of Slaanesh, with torrent and warpsword. Take a few squads of Daemonettes and have them move behind the SG. Maybe a squad of seekers with grimoire+telepathy for some real fun. Maybe take a mark of Slaanesh chaos knight if you can afford the model.

Dang, the two chariot models are what attracted me to the force. Are they really not worth it?

In my experience chariots *can* work, but only if you take a lot of them and even then only against certain opponents.
I should say I'm talking about Exalted Seeker and Seeker Chariots. The other one is just plain bad because it competes with what's generally considered one of the best units in the codex (Seekers).

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Dang, the two chariot models are what attracted me to the force. Are they really not worth it?

They're okay, but don't expect anything amazing. I'd say go on and field them for the fluff value.

Poops.
Well, my Slaanesh army is going to heavily converted aesthetically (to be conversely, less naked), so I guess I'l go with Rule of Cool and grab a regular and an Exalted.

This topic does answer what was on my mind as well, though. Glad to have spotted it.

The problem with the Slaanesh chariots is that Hellflayers are Fast Attack and thus compete with Seekers of Slaanesh (the Demonettes on mounts) while Seeker Chariots are Heavy Support and compete with Soul Grinders. You can squadron the heavy support Seeker Chariots of course, but keep in mind the terrible rules for vehicle squadrons - seeker chariots are only AV11/11/10 with 2hp and a 5++; S6 shooting will rip through a squadron of them.

I've never used them and I don't think they're bad per say, just that Seekers of Slaanesh and Soul Grinders are clearly the better choice. Would be fun to see a wall of chariots slam into the enemy lines with all them rending Hammer of Wraths though lol

When I summon in heralds- I love bringing them on a chariot. Pretty good unit for free and doesn't take up a slot.

 KhorneontheCobb wrote:
When I summon in heralds- I love bringing them on a chariot. Pretty good unit for free and doesn't take up a slot.

Summoning them in might be a fun and viable way to get them onto the table.

Don't know if it would be worth more than a squad of 10 daemonettes, but at least it won't take up those Herald/ FA / HS slots.

That said, you've got to have some banners on the table to guide them in, deepstriking something with the base size of a chariot is a big gamble.

curious here, why are seekers preferred over fiends?

 Big Blind Bill wrote:

 KhorneontheCobb wrote:
When I summon in heralds- I love bringing them on a chariot. Pretty good unit for free and doesn't take up a slot.

Summoning them in might be a fun and viable way to get them onto the table.

Don't know if it would be worth more than a squad of 10 daemonettes, but at least it won't take up those Herald/ FA / HS slots.

That said, you've got to have some banners on the table to guide them in, deepstriking something with the base size of a chariot is a big gamble.

It wouldn't be the whole squad of daemonettes- only 1 of them. "Sacrifice" is the power that brings in heralds by sacrificing 1 wound from the psyker or a model within 6 inches... You may be thinking of possesion- where you get a greater daemon in trade for the psyker, so if a squad of pink horrors used possesion to summon a greater daemon- you would lose the whole squad as they have the brotherhood of sorcerer's rule.

Sacrifice is an awesome power- I march cultists next to my psykers- trading out 4 point cultists to flood the board in heralds w/30 points of options is pretty awesome... You are right though- a banner (or a big space of open table) is needed to bring them in safely!

 KhorneontheCobb wrote:

 Big Blind Bill wrote:

 KhorneontheCobb wrote:
When I summon in heralds- I love bringing them on a chariot. Pretty good unit for free and doesn't take up a slot.

Summoning them in might be a fun and viable way to get them onto the table.

Don't know if it would be worth more than a squad of 10 daemonettes, but at least it won't take up those Herald/ FA / HS slots.

That said, you've got to have some banners on the table to guide them in, deepstriking something with the base size of a chariot is a big gamble.

It wouldn't be the whole squad of daemonettes- only 1 of them. "Sacrifice" is the power that brings in heralds by sacrificing 1 wound from the psyker or a model within 6 inches... You may be thinking of possesion- where you get a greater daemon in trade for the psyker, so if a squad of pink horrors used possesion to summon a greater daemon- you would lose the whole squad as they have the brotherhood of sorcerer's rule.

Sacrifice is an awesome power- I march cultists next to my psykers- trading out 4 point cultists to flood the board in heralds w/30 points of options is pretty awesome... You are right though- a banner (or a big space of open table) is needed to bring them in safely!

No. I mean why summon a chariot, when you can use the dice to get a daemonette squad instead.

Sacrifice is cheaper though.

slamma wrote:
curious here, why are seekers preferred over fiends?

Because fiends don't do a lot of damage for their points. For the price of 1 fiend you get 3 seekers which is almost as durable (3 T4 wounds vs 3 T3 wounds that don't suffer instant death), are faster (because of +6" to running instead of just +3") and do waaaay more damage since three seekers get 9 rending attacks vs a single fiends 3 rending attacks.