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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/30 02:09:04
Subject: Enslavers in the fluff
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Just a few questions:
1) Is the Enslaver plague still a part of the fluff, or has it been abandoned among the many Necron retcons?
2) Is there a reason as to why the Enslavers aren't a bigger threat? They virtually took over the Galaxy at one point. Why aren't they such a threat anymore?
3) What exactly are they? They come from the Warp, but aren't Daemons to my knowledge. Are they part of that class of rarely mentioned Xenos, the mysterious Warp/Webway natives? Is so, what other examples of Warp natives are there?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/30 06:46:38
Subject: Enslavers in the fluff
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1) I don't think it was retconned, just sort of "ignored" by GW.
2) From lexicanum:
Despite the virus-like actions and considerable threat the species represents to the Imperium the Enslavers cannot possess sanctioned psykers as easily due to the preparation their minds have undergone and can be overwhelmed if enough minds are present as it will have too many minds to try and assimilate at once. Unfortunately the protection sanctionites have is temporary and with enough pressure upon their mind, they will break and be obliterated by the Enslaver. Yet even so, the resistance would be adequate for the psyker and others around them to mount a physical attack.
There are simply not enough unguarded psykers in the galaxy.
3) Warp entities are a product of mortal minds exerting an influence over the Warp, that's why it's such a gakky place in 40k. More such entities: http://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/List_of_Warp_Entities.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/30 07:27:36
Subject: Enslavers in the fluff
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They still pop up every so often. In the RPG Deathwatch, the Storm Wardens chapter has had a nasty encounter with them which resulted in the entire first company getting locked into stasis (rather than burned by the Inquisition).
The line between warp-native xenos and non-aligned daemons is a fine one at best. Mandrakes, Enslavers, Psychenuin, Khymerae, etc are all similar in nature.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/30 15:59:08
Subject: Enslavers in the fluff
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They should totally make an Enslaver army. It would be like the Orokin, from Warframe, with "corrupted" Space Marines and IG and Eldar, and xenos that don't have models yet.
1.) As has been previously stated, just ignored.
2.) There are enough Daemons (and similar Warp Entities) that the Enslavers are probably locked in a titanic struggle just to survive. Think about it, there were no Warp Gods back when the Enslavers came close to dominating the Galaxy, that means the Enslavers were an apex predator with no rivals. Nowadays, the Gods probably consumed millions of Enslavers, and that's probably why Daemons are capable of posessing hosts and causing huge Warp breaches on planets.
3.) They are non-Daemon (ie not pieces of Gods) Warp entities. The only reason that they aren't Daemons is because they aren't created by a God breaking off a portion of its power and moulding the power into a sentience.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/30 20:05:00
Subject: Re:Enslavers in the fluff
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The 5th Edition Codex (the one with the big changes to the Necrons) mentioned the ossified husk of an Enslaver as being in Trazyn's collection. Additionally in the Creatures Anathema RPG supplement they are listed (and given stats). They're still around. In addition to what kaszak said weak Psykers are liable to be executed or taken on the Black Ships which doesn't give much of a toe hold.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/30 23:11:18
Subject: Re:Enslavers in the fluff
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Kind of strange that they live in the Warp, yet are contrary to the aims of Chaos seeing as they managed to virtually depopulate the Galaxy at one point, which would becalm the Warp, and leave the Gods powerless.
It makes me wonder why there's no conflict with Daemons with them, both in and out the Warp. You think they'd want them destroyed on-sight.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/01 00:29:03
Subject: Re:Enslavers in the fluff
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Hierophant wrote:
It makes me wonder why there's no conflict with Daemons with them, both in and out the Warp. You think they'd want them destroyed on-sight.
Maybe there is. It might explain why there haven't been any more galaxy-wide Enslaver incursions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/01 01:37:22
Subject: Re:Enslavers in the fluff
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SomeRandomEvilGuy wrote:Maybe there is. It might explain why there haven't been any more galaxy-wide Enslaver incursions.
Are there any hints towards this though? If not, I'd say it's unlikely, as it's the kind of thing they would have hinted towards I think if so.
It'd be a neat explanation though. Maybe the Enslavers aren't evil at all, but pesky Materium residents and their emotions have been messing up their home (the Warp), so they've come over here in an effort to cut off the Gods food supplies and calm the Warp.
Would be a cool twist on things, and weirdly enough, make them a little sympathetic. We're so used to creatures of the Warp being a blight on reality that the inversion of our existence causing disaster for the non-Daemonic residents of the Warp would be interesting.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/01 01:58:13
Subject: Re:Enslavers in the fluff
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Hierophant wrote:If not, I'd say it's unlikely, as it's the kind of thing they would have hinted towards I think if so.
Not if GW don't care about them. Fact is, if there are no Enslaver models for people to buy then using them in the fluff won't gain GW anything.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/01 05:44:40
Subject: Re:Enslavers in the fluff
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Hierophant wrote:Kind of strange that they live in the Warp, yet are contrary to the aims of Chaos seeing as they managed to virtually depopulate the Galaxy at one point, which would becalm the Warp, and leave the Gods powerless.
It makes me wonder why there's no conflict with Daemons with them, both in and out the Warp. You think they'd want them destroyed on-sight.
Enslavers aren't Daemons, they don't serve the Chaos Gods (in any way that has been seen, recorded or reported, anyway) and seem, instead, to be a pre-Chaos trans-dimensional xeno.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/05 08:48:21
Subject: Enslavers in the fluff
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In the 5th Ed Necron codex they were mentioned as Calamitous Warp spawned perils. In the latest book there isn't any mention at all.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/07 13:45:29
Subject: Enslavers in the fluff
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Growlin' Guntrukk Driver with Killacannon
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I thought it was implied that Enslavers make demons nervous, which might be why they are able to exist within the warp with all that chaos energy.
As far as why they were able to damage the galaxy while chaos struggles, the Enslavers can access the materium while in the warp using their powers while chaos needs to bleed the warp into the materium to create and maintain influence. Just seems to be easier for the enslavers to interact.
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