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okay so i want to start getting competitive with my neurons I've been meh with them for awhile but i really want to try and have a good tournament standing for once

so please any and all help is appreciated however i do understand i have a lot of warriors this is an aesthetic thing and id prefer to keep it

Reclamation Legion
-Nemesor Zandrekh (warlord)

5 Immortals
5 Immortals (these sit on backfield objectives)

2x3 Tomb Blades(to grab long distance objectives/late game grabbers)
-Shield Vanes
-Shadowlooms

2x10 warriors on foot
2x10 warriors in ghost Arks

DESTROYER CULT
Destroyer Lord
-Warscythe
-Nightmare Shroud
-Phase Shifter

3x3 Destroyers
3 heavy destroyers


so any thoughts or ideas????

FYI your title says "Space Marines tournament list"... might wanna change that to get the right people viewing

 xTHExCLINCHERx wrote:
FYI your title says "Space Marines tournament list"... might wanna change that to get the right people viewing

I don’t know, looks like a pretty good Iron Hands list.



This thread is probably a Xenos trap, we should get out of here.

i ws gonna post my SM list but decided not to waste more money on various small projects and stick with my main army

Destroyer cult is amazing. I played it in an 1850 tournament and smashed through every space marine list with complete ease on the back of my destroyers.

Only issues I have with this list is there's no air support and no close combat units besides your Dlord.

I honestly don't see this list getting much out of Nemesor. I'd make him a generic Overlord and then make the Destroyer Lord your Warlord.

Agreed on Nemezor zandreck, drop him down to an overlord. I'd either drop the big group of warriors of make them a 20 man and stick the destroyer lord in the back of it for 20 warriors with perferred enemy, if they get assaulted the destroyer lord can mitigate that to some degree.

To be honest your bane is going to be assault armies. If you get assaulted you will get over run and a lot of tournament lists feature cc Death Stars so I guess best of luck.

Take nebula scopes on the blades, ignores cover is too good to pass up.


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Destroyer cults will help greatly against msu marines, Demi company, ect. But as stated they will get wrecked by a cc bike invisibility list. Invisibility is the real bane because you can't stop it without psykers and it will make that deathstar unkillable in shooting or assault.

not much i can do against invisibility since i can't really ever stop it so idk what to say and lychguard with an overlord could be done but idk what to drop in order to take that ???


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so here is how i changed up the list

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Reclamation Legion

Overlord
-Warscythe
-Phase Shifter

5 Immortals with gauss

2x5 Lychguard with warscythes

5 Tomb Blades
-Particle Beamers
-Nebuloscopes
-Shield Vanes

2x10 Warriors

2x10 Warriors in ghost Arks

Destroyer Cult

Destroyer Lord
-Warscythe
-The Nightmare Shroud
-Phase Shifter

3 Heavy Destroyers

3x3 Destroyers


is this any better????

I think that putting a warscythe on the overlord is a waste of points, but the phase shifter is okay even though it's also probably not useful.

I'm also curious as to your thoughts on the lychguard. If you're looking for a counter to CC heavy armies, you should go w/ a harvest rather than lychguard since they're MUCH faster and will provide the tarpit you need. Lychguard w/o shields are a killy unit, not really a tarpit. They'll probably crumble to a good I4 cc squad w/ power weapons.

as for everything else, I'm liking it a lot now.You may be able to fit in another ghost ark if you move things around slightly, but I could be wrong on that.

I like the second list better. One change I would recommend is combining the 2x Warrior units into 1 larger unit. You're not ObSec, so unless you prefer a MSU play style, there are more advantages to combining them. Not only does it become easier for the two GAs to support one unit on the ground, it harder than trying to get the 10 man units down, which might be out of range of one of the GAs. Also gives you a great alternative unit for your DLord depending on who you're facing.

I'd also take a look at Tesla on the Immortals. Not the usual recommendation, but you need to look at how often they're going to get into Rapid Fire range. I believe your intent is to have them sitting behind the Warriors and the Destroyers/Tomb Blades moving around in between as well? I've never been a fan of Tesla, but this edition has turned me since my Immortals rarely see Rapid Fire range more than 1 turn per game. Just something to try for yourself.

I agree that you should Sword and Board the Lychguard. They're the slowest unit to react to most CC, and when you finally get them there, you want as many as possible to survive. If you really like the Warscythes, then you should look into Praetorians with Rods. Of course this means Judicator so you'll have to scrap a good setup for more points. Or go CAD, which will cost you the +1 RP, Relentless, And MTC. Either way, you should look at splitting them into 2 units, so that you can cover more angles if your opponent brings more CC units than you can shoot this piss out of.

Lastly, Kudos for not going the Wraith route. We need to see more of these.

I'm trying not to do wraiths because thats what everyone expects with necrons and its super cheesy especially with a decision so :/

and i don't want to combine the warriors cause then if some one makes it into combat with all 20 then I'm losing shots i could be firing

i do understand the shield argument but that makes them cost more and since with the current list I'm already at 1997 points i just can't afford it

but i do like the suggestion of splitting them up into 2 units of 5 it could give them more versatility

yes power weapons could be a problem but theres not much i can do about that beyond blast the unit with destroyers and watch all MEQ's crumble to that alone they only will suffer to TEQ but hopefully i can move faster than any heavy CC armies and shoot them enough o be able to handle them

Drop the second immortals and 4th warrior blob and buy some lychguard. Keep Zand if you're playing an army that has furious charge, so you can steal it, otherwise lose him to a normal overlord and kit him out with a rez orb.