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 Kommissar Kel wrote:
Super heavy walker tells you to use the shooting rules for super heavy vehicles.

Indeed. They don't, however, tell you to use those rules exclusively.

Think of 'Super Heavy' more as an add-on class (like 'Jump') rather than as a class in its own right. They follow the rules for their vehicle type, with the additional rules that apply specifically to super heavies added on top.

It does not tell you to use the shooting rules for walkers.

Yes they do. They tell you to use the walker rules, with the specific additions and exceptions listed.

The Super Heavy shooting rules are an addition, not an exception.

shv and walkers have different, exclusive, firing arcs.

No, they don't. Super Heavies don't have defined fire arcs at all. They just use the fire arc appropriate to the base vehicle type.

Super heavy walker is a subclass of vehicle. The first thing it tells you is that they are both superheavy vehicles, and walkers.

Then the superheavy rule comes into play which tells to what rules there to use: "superheavy walkers are superheavy vehicles and use the superheavy vehicles rules for SHOOTING, vehicle damage, catastrophic damage, and transport."

So right there; if you are using the walker rules for arc of fire(part of its shooting rules), are you using the shv shooting rules?

And yes, super-heavy vehicles do have defined fire arcs, the rules for those can be found before the vehicle sub-types under the heading "vehicles in the shooting phase".

From the Super-heavy Vehicles rules in the main rulebook:

SHOOTING
When a Super-heavy vehicle makes a shooting attack, it is always treated as if it had remained stationary in the Movement phase (even if it actually moved), and it may fire each of its weapons at different targets if desired. In addition, firing Ordnance weapons has no effect on a Super-heavy vehicle's ability to fire other weapons.

So absolutely no mention of fire arcs whatsoever or using the Vehicle rules for Shooting. As noted, the Super-heavy Shooting rules are not a complete set of rules and require the use of either the Vehicle or Walker Shooting rules in order to operate.

 Kommissar Kel wrote:
Then the superheavy rule comes into play which tells to what rules there to use: "superheavy walkers are superheavy vehicles and use the superheavy vehicles rules for SHOOTING, vehicle damage, catastrophic damage, and transport."

So right there; if you are using the walker rules for arc of fire(part of its shooting rules), are you using the shv shooting rules?

Given that the SHV rules don't cover fire arcs, I'm not sure why you're seeing them as exclusive.

Again, you're not told to use the SHV shooting rules instead of other rules. You're just told to use the SHV shooting rules.

And yes, super-heavy vehicles do have defined fire arcs, the rules for those can be found before the vehicle sub-types under the heading "vehicles in the shooting phase".

So... not actually in section that you're insisting should replace all other shooting rules, then?

Kommisar Kel, given you are insisting that the Super-heavy Shooting rules should completely overwrite the Walker rules we're first told to refer to, why on the subject of Gargantuan Creatures did you post this:

 Kommissar Kel wrote:
The complete issue is that you generally need a counter to each basic rule individually.

There are 2 rules involved fir basic shooting:
1) a unit can only shoot at 1 target per shooting phase.
2) a model can only fire 1 weapon per shooting phase.

MC rules alter the second rule, and specify the first is still in effect via parenthetical reminder text.

GC rules tell you to use MC rules except where specified otherwise, and alter the first rule.

If Gargantuan Creature rules modify only the part of the Monstrous Creature rules they conflict with, making it so that Gargantuan Creatures may fire only two weapons, why is it that the Super-heavy Shooting rules override all of the Walker rules you're told to refer to in the situation we're discussing here?

In short, be consistent, man!