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Reading tru the Black Library books it's not really clear what is the sign that they make with hands.

Is it this:
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/7a/40/62/7a406245dfb5ede4ac38c7221a61e936.jpg

or this:
http://images.dakkadakka.com/gallery/2009/1/15/15993-The%20Sign%20of%20the%20Aquila.jpeg
   
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Both?

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Uh, they're the same, except one of them the guy is carrying a book. :p



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Yeah, both are the same, just different in the angle you are seeing it at.
   
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Tehy're the same hand position, just at differant angles.

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Thumbs are crossed in the smaller one, not in the other. Thumbs crossed looks more like an aquila.

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Personally I'd go with picture #2, as picture #1 looks rather awkward and doesn't really resemble the Aquila.

Remember, the Aquila is supposed to have the two-headed eagle facing both ways (past and future). Picture # 2 represents this much better.

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I don't know if anyone here has said it yet, but they are the same in both pictures...

 
   
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Either is correct.

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There's also a one handed version if you're wielding a weapon or busy, which is just the wing of the eagle applied to your chest.
Mostly so you don't shoot yourself in the face trying to salute.

Mechanicus do "the cog" which is interlocking knuckles. Why they do that when most of them don't have need to verbally communicate is anybody's guess.


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 EngulfedObject wrote:
Personally I'd go with picture #2, as picture #1 looks rather awkward and doesn't really resemble the Aquila.

Remember, the Aquila is supposed to have the two-headed eagle facing both ways (past and future). Picture # 2 represents this much better.


Note that the left-hand eagle head and foot is clear and has an eye, whereas the other is blind and slightly spikier.

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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
There's also a one handed version if you're wielding a weapon or busy, which is just the wing of the eagle applied to your chest.
Mostly so you don't shoot yourself in the face trying to salute.

Mechanicus do "the cog" which is interlocking knuckles. Why they do that when most of them don't have need to verbally communicate is anybody's guess.


... Why would a species like humans who have no need to communicate through gestures create saluting?

Same reason. Verbal communication is as good at eliminating the need for gestural communication just as much as noospheric communication eliminates the need for verbal communication.



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 Furyou Miko wrote:
 Buttery Commissar wrote:
There's also a one handed version if you're wielding a weapon or busy, which is just the wing of the eagle applied to your chest.
Mostly so you don't shoot yourself in the face trying to salute.

Mechanicus do "the cog" which is interlocking knuckles. Why they do that when most of them don't have need to verbally communicate is anybody's guess.


... Why would a species like humans who have no need to communicate through gestures create saluting?

Same reason. Verbal communication is as good at eliminating the need for gestural communication just as much as noospheric communication eliminates the need for verbal communication.


For the menial workers not linked into the forge network to show respect?

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Remember verbal communication including emoticons and text in what i am assuming is the same in noosphere talk miss 50% of communication for humans which is nonverbal body language

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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
There's also a one handed version if you're wielding a weapon or busy, which is just the wing of the eagle applied to your chest.
Mostly so you don't shoot yourself in the face trying to salute.

Mechanicus do "the cog" which is interlocking knuckles. Why they do that when most of them don't have need to verbally communicate is anybody's guess.
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Because as odd as it may sound human communication uses a lot of non-verbal communication.

The extended empty hand shows you have no ill intentions(your hand isn't holding a weapon). Shaking right hands(the weapon hand) shows mutual respect. Hold both hands up palm outwards shows you mean no ill will.

In the case of the mechanicus, it is some lingering portion of their humanity. but also a way to tangibly show their fealty. Part of the ritual thats been passed down for thousands of years.

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 Buttery Commissar wrote:

...Mechanicus do "the cog" which is interlocking knuckles...


Wow, what orientation? i need to know that one!

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Make two fists touching each other across your chest. Interlock your knuckles. Sign of the Cog.

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I think Dolnad wanted to know whether your left hand or your right hand should be on top.



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 Grey Templar wrote:
Make two fists touching each other across your chest. Interlock your knuckles. Sign of the Cog.


Nailed it. I think i just leveled up!

I'm going to presume that the left-hand little-finger knuckle is to be seated between the right-hand little finger knuckle and the ring-finger knuckle.

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I was mostly joking, but those are some very good answers indeed.
One would assume the Cog can only be performed by those who still have hands, which would be the least augmented ranks, and most physically (and thus mentally) human.


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Alternatively, those who no longer have the appendages required to make the sign of the cog have no need to make the sign at all, as their degree of oneness with the Omnissiah is readily visible. The sign of the cog is only for the lowest.
   
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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
Alternatively, those who no longer have the appendages required to make the sign of the cog have no need to make the sign at all, as their degree of oneness with the Omnissiah is readily visible. The sign of the cog is only for the lowest.
Alternatively, they use actual cogs
   
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 Buttery Commissar wrote:
There's also a one handed version if you're wielding a weapon or busy, which is just the wing of the eagle applied to your chest.
Mostly so you don't shoot yourself in the face trying to salute.

Mechanicus do "the cog" which is interlocking knuckles. Why they do that when most of them don't have need to verbally communicate is anybody's guess.


Silly buttery, it reinforces this behavior more so. I mean could you imagine having avoided standing at attention or parade rest or sounding off in the military... I wish it had no verbal communication. For example, just imagine fiddling with a toaster and then as a superior walks by, do a quick cog salute and then go back to working on a toaster...

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If doing it one-hand, thumb your palm. If doing it two-handed, hook your thumbs. At least that's the impression that the Ciaphas Cain novels gave me.

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