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I generally just assume you can see past skimmers, but they grant cover if you try to shoot past them. That's just my own personal rule after a dozen years playing with Eldar tanks and having those stupid bases break, or come in different heights, or just be too annoying to use so I put the tank directly on the table. That philosophy has never really been challenged until a game I was in last night, but it got me thinking... You can't model your base for personal gain, but nothing is stopping you from choosing higher or lower skimmer bases as options to do just that.

How do other people play it?

If you do true LoS, which I suppose is RAW, then you can have a situation with tall infantry on one side of a skimmer, and where short infantry are on the other, and the short infantry see and shoot the tall infantry but not vice-versa. Seems silly.

Very unlikely, as Line of Sight is drawn from any part of the Model so if one can 'see' the other then the reverse must also be true.
'Broken' skimmer bases should be discussed with your opponent, the Rules only account for the supplied base.

 Deathypoo wrote:
If you do true LoS, which I suppose is RAW, then you can have a situation with tall infantry on one side of a skimmer, and where short infantry are on the other, and the short infantry see and shoot the tall infantry but not vice-versa. Seems silly.

No. If an attacking unit is able to draw line of sight to a target unit, the target unit necessarily must also be able to draw line of sight to its attacker (subject to casualty removal, of course):

"For one model to have line of sight to another, you must be able to trace a straight, unblocked line from its body (the head, torso, arms or legs) to any part to the target's body."

You know, for some reason we've been checking line of sight from the head forever, instead of any body part. I just re-read the section though. That's actually a wide-ranging change for us haha...

Thanks.

I believe that changed between 6th and 7th.

The OP question still stands though -- for instance most of my Eldar skimmers are on pretty low bases, largely because I find the tall ones tend to fall over and be more finicky, so I drill out the hole in the bottom of the hull to be a bit bigger and more stable.

Anyway, you cant really get your head so low to the table that you can see "under" them around other models, but I had an opponent call a charge from one side to the other under the assumption that you can see "under" a skimmer regardless.

Was not happy, and do not feel this is the "typical" way to play, but how do others play?

Cheers

 ibushi wrote:
The OP question still stands though -- for instance most of my Eldar skimmers are on pretty low bases, largely because I find the tall ones tend to fall over and be more finicky, so I drill out the hole in the bottom of the hull to be a bit bigger and more stable.

Anyway, you cant really get your head so low to the table that you can see "under" them around other models, but I had an opponent call a charge from one side to the other under the assumption that you can see "under" a skimmer regardless.

Was not happy, and do not feel this is the "typical" way to play, but how do others play?

Cheers

The rules are abundantly clear - if you can an unbroken line from a model's body to the target's body, whether it's from or to the head, torso, arms or legs, then there is line of sight. In the case of going underneath a skimmer then it's simply a matter of whether a line can be drawn legs to legs.

There may be an issue in terms of succesfully rolling sufficient charge distance to move around the skimmer, but that's a separate matter.

 ibushi wrote:
The OP question still stands though -- for instance most of my Eldar skimmers are on pretty low bases, largely because I find the tall ones tend to fall over and be more finicky, so I drill out the hole in the bottom of the hull to be a bit bigger and more stable.

Anyway, you cant really get your head so low to the table that you can see "under" them around other models, but I had an opponent call a charge from one side to the other under the assumption that you can see "under" a skimmer regardless.

Was not happy, and do not feel this is the "typical" way to play, but how do others play?

Cheers

In the current edition, models can see with their toes. This scenario is perfectly acceptable.

 insaniak wrote:
In the current edition, models can see with their toes. This scenario is perfectly acceptable.

Well, assuming they could actually draw LOS under the skimmer and nothing blocked it (low-hanging missile pods on a Tau tank, for example). It is pretty likely that models will be able to draw LOS under a skimmer, but you still have to check LOS. You can't just assume a blanket rule that you can always see under a skimmer, as the quoted post suggests.

The quoted post suggested nothing of the kind.

Obviously LOS requires an unobstructed line.

 insaniak wrote:
The quoted post suggested nothing of the kind.

It did:

I had an opponent call a charge from one side to the other under the assumption that you can see "under" a skimmer regardless.

The opponent tried to claim that LOS under a skimmer is a general rule which always applies, not that this particular situation allowed TLOS to be drawn between the relevant models. And that claim is obviously wrong.

I just use a cheap cat toy laser for LOS.
It doesn't matter at all if you are drawing line of sight trough a skimmer or trough a ruin .If you can hit it with the laser you can hit it with your models.

Indeed, would have been my suggestion as well, as little pen lasers are easy to find and cheap to purchase.
Just don't go all out blue laser to show off, your lasgun carrying models shouldn't actually be armed....