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 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 kronk wrote:
So you're complaining about the tau book getting more, or are you disappointed that the other books got less stuff?

Disappointed the other books didnt get much. Necrons could have been retweeked to a fluffier army (not army wide 4+ FnP), SM couldve gotten some newer kits (Ie Honour guard/Command Squad, Dreadnaught) and they couldve fixed terminators (because they are bad)

They can "Fix" SMs when they decide to overhaul ALL the Astartes CSM and every variant in all. SMs have been the poster children of GWs bastardized 40k universe already long enough. They can bloody wait a few more years.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 kronk wrote:
So you're complaining about the tau book getting more, or are you disappointed that the other books got less stuff?

Disappointed the other books didnt get much. Necrons could have been retweeked to a fluffier army (not army wide 4+ FnP), SM couldve gotten some newer kits (Ie Honour guard/Command Squad, Dreadnaught) and they couldve fixed terminators (because they are bad)

BOY you'd have hated Necrons in 3rd edition.

What else do you do to show fluff? It works fine.

Because there are people who are still butt hurt about CSM 3.5 edition.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 kronk wrote:
So you're complaining about the tau book getting more, or are you disappointed that the other books got less stuff?

Disappointed the other books didnt get much. Necrons could have been retweeked to a fluffier army (not army wide 4+ FnP), SM couldve gotten some newer kits (Ie Honour guard/Command Squad, Dreadnaught) and they couldve fixed terminators (because they are bad)

Agreed on the terminators.

Speaking of a Codex in dire need of new models and rules... how about those Chaos Space Marines?

I think they biggest thing they need is mobility: Give them a dreadclaw in the codex and make a plastic kit. At the very least!

Also, as Marines, they should have ATSKNF. Why don't they have that, especially recent renegades (Huron and his Astral Claws).

Also, also: Please let their data slates not suck.

Also x3: If you don't give them legion rules, at least give them warband rules ala the Chapter Tactics. Call it Warband Tendencies or something. Or the Space Pirates' Code.

 kronk wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 kronk wrote:
So you're complaining about the tau book getting more, or are you disappointed that the other books got less stuff?

Disappointed the other books didnt get much. Necrons could have been retweeked to a fluffier army (not army wide 4+ FnP), SM couldve gotten some newer kits (Ie Honour guard/Command Squad, Dreadnaught) and they couldve fixed terminators (because they are bad)

Agreed on the terminators.

Speaking of a Codex in dire need of new models and rules... how about those Chaos Space Marines?

When the chaos get a new dex, we will have all the Monstrous creatures

 Tactical_Spam wrote:


When the chaos get a new dex, we will have all the Monstrous creatures

Make the Hellbrute a MC, and I'll take three in every list!

 kronk wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:


When the chaos get a new dex, we will have all the Monstrous creatures

Make the Hellbrute a MC, and I'll take three in every list!

It would need like 8 toughness or a ton more wounds.

 kronk wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:


When the chaos get a new dex, we will have all the Monstrous creatures

Make the Hellbrute a MC, and I'll take three in every list!

Maulerfiends, forgefiends, Heldrakes, helbrutes, defilers? Making Tau weep

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:


When the chaos get a new dex, we will have all the Monstrous creatures

Make the Hellbrute a MC, and I'll take three in every list!

Maulerfiends, forgefiends, Heldrakes, helbrutes, defilers? Making Tau weep

As Vehicles? Not at all. As MCs? Now we're talking!

 kronk wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:


When the chaos get a new dex, we will have all the Monstrous creatures

Make the Hellbrute a MC, and I'll take three in every list!

Maulerfiends, forgefiends, Heldrakes, helbrutes, defilers? Making Tau weep

As Vehicles? Not at all. As MCs? Now we're talking!

Chaos got reaaaalllll competitive if that were true

Taffy17 wrote:

Am I doing something wrong or is the bad press misleading?

You're not doing anything wrong. The bad press is simply Imperial Propaganda to push the weak of will from the temptation of Chaos. I personally prefer it this way. Even at my local Games Workshop the community's collective jaws dropped when I declared I not only played Chaos, but Black Legion with only chosen. "Why would you handicap yourself like that?"

Every time I play a game and ask my opponent for advice the only advice I get is "don't play Chaos."

I honestly prefer it this way. Victory and glory as a Chaos Space Marine should be a matter of willpower, dedication and hard work. Not a given you're born into like the Space Marines, Eldar and Tau.

It is a fascinating study in just how accurate the player community is in terms of what the Chaos Space Marine zeitgeist is. The majority of bitter and unhappy veterans of long-gone times, belittling the few ambitious ones as naive fools or young and unbloodied. It brings the immersion factor to a whole different level.

You'd literally never win in my area with a Chosen list.

I've only really seen 2 chaos lists play consistently with this codex. Typhus with zombies along with daemon engines. The other is spamming suicide squads of Terminators, Bikes, and Obliterators.

The biggest liability with a Chaos Space Marine army are chaos space marinesas troops. For what they are and to make them work eats up soo many more points than they should. Chaos corrupts through the promise of dark powers... There is nothing about chaos marines that even begins to imply they've tapped into dark powers. They don't even have a sense of self delusion that they've tapped into this power.

 Kraytirous wrote:

Taffy17 wrote:

Am I doing something wrong or is the bad press misleading?

You're not doing anything wrong. The bad press is simply Imperial Propaganda to push the weak of will from the temptation of Chaos. I personally prefer it this way. Even at my local Games Workshop the community's collective jaws dropped when I declared I not only played Chaos, but Black Legion with only chosen. "Why would you handicap yourself like that?"

Every time I play a game and ask my opponent for advice the only advice I get is "don't play Chaos."

I honestly prefer it this way. Victory and glory as a Chaos Space Marine should be a matter of willpower, dedication and hard work. Not a given you're born into like the Space Marines, Eldar and Tau.

It is a fascinating study in just how accurate the player community is in terms of what the Chaos Space Marine zeitgeist is. The majority of bitter and unhappy veterans of long-gone times, belittling the few ambitious ones as naive fools or young and unbloodied. It brings the immersion factor to a whole different level.

For the dark gods!!!

I feel bad now using my 9x oblit tzeentch psychic shenanigans list with Chaos knight.

But this is a list built on hate of the purest kind.