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2015/10/23 08:05:38
Subject: It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA.
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Its kinda muddy.
But basically as I understand it the following is the difference between the various degrees.
1st Degree Murder: Preplanned and willfully committed. IE: you planned out the action of the murder with the intent to kill that individual.
2nd Degree: You kill someone without premeditation, but do so willfully. Such as killing someone in the commission of a robbery, or hitting someone who was not your target.
3rd Degree: This is heat of passion, no premeditation and the act is not done in the commission of another crime.
Attempted Murder: Failing an attempt to do any of the above.
Manslaughter: Accidental killing of an individual. Basically a step up from negligence.
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But basically as I understand it the following is the difference between the various degrees..
It's not so much that it's muddy, as that murder is most commonly a state crime and with 50 states, they're all slightly different. You probably know this and your writeup is a good generalization, just clarifying why.
welshhoppo wrote: Nope, murder is simply "intend to cause grevious bodily harm"
Did you mean to beat him up with a stick but not kill him, but he died anyway? Then that is murder, you intended to cause harm.
In the uk at least, I didn't study American law.
In the US this would probably be manslaughter, not murder. But of course there are tons of little details that could swing it up and down.
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2015/10/24 21:12:54
Subject: It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA.
Killing someone with premeditated intent, or
Engaging in conduct with extreme indifference to human life, or
Killing someone during the commission of another crime (robbery in the first or second degree, rape in the first or second degree, burglary in the first degree, arson in the first or second degree, or kidnapping in the first or second degree).
Murder in the second degree. Class A Felony
Killing someone with intent but without premeditation, or
Killing someone during the commission of another crime other than those listed above for murder in the first degree.
Homicide by abuse. Class A Felony
Killing someone (child or person under sixteen years of age, a developmentally disabled person, or a dependent adult) under circumstances manifesting an extreme indifference to human life where the person has previously engaged in a pattern or practice of assault or torture of the victim.
Manslaughter in the first degree. Class A Felony
Killing someone through recklessness, or
Killing (intentionally and unlawfully) an unborn quick child by inflicting any injury upon the mother of such child
Manslaughter in the second degree. Class B Felony
Killing someone though an act of criminal negligence.
Now compare these to laws in your own state/country and you'll begin to see how blurred everything becomes compared to TV shows and other pop culture.
2017/04/05 22:18:36
Subject: Re:It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA. - Update Page 8.
I was watching the Philip DeFranco show on YouTube when he talked about this story and had an update. He posted links to the Star-Telegram article, which I've copied below.
A man who intentionally swerved into a couple on a motorcycle in Hood County, causing them to crash and injure themselves in 2015, was sentenced to 15 years in prison Thursday, his attorney confirmed.
William Sam Crum, 69, was convicted of two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in a jury trial in the 355th District Court in Hood County.
At his age, 15 years could be a life sentence but at least he won't have the opportunity to actually kill anyone else. I can only hope that they play this video - especially the "I don't care" comment - over and over at any parole boards he might appear before.
Maybe he'll meet some motorcycle gang "club" members in prison who can sit him down and explain to him why he should be remorseful for his actions. In the shower. Oz style.
Phil talks about this starting at 9:52
2017/04/05 23:01:26
Subject: Re:It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA. - Update Page 8.
Breotan wrote: I was watching the Philip DeFranco show on YouTube when he talked about this story and had an update. He posted links to the Star-Telegram article, which I've copied below.
A man who intentionally swerved into a couple on a motorcycle in Hood County, causing them to crash and injure themselves in 2015, was sentenced to 15 years in prison Thursday, his attorney confirmed.
William Sam Crum, 69, was convicted of two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in a jury trial in the 355th District Court in Hood County.
At his age, 15 years could be a life sentence but at least he won't have the opportunity to actually kill anyone else. I can only hope that they play this video - especially the "I don't care" comment - over and over at any parole boards he might appear before.
Maybe he'll meet some motorcycle gang "club" members in prison who can sit him down and explain to him why he should be remorseful for his actions. In the shower. Oz style.
Phil talks about this starting at 9:52
Age is no excuse to escape sentence for a crime. Good . He earned those years b
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2017/04/05 23:02:06
Subject: Re:It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA. - Update Page 8.
William Sam Crum, 69, was convicted of two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in a jury trial in the 355th District Court in Hood County.
Good.
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2017/04/05 23:06:28
Subject: Re:It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA. - Update Page 8.
William Sam Crum, 69, was convicted of two counts of aggravated assault with a deadly weapon in a jury trial in the 355th District Court in Hood County.
Guys...he doesn't care.
I hope he dies in prison.
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2017/04/06 12:40:11
Subject: Re:It can be very dangerous to be a bike rider in the USA. - Update Page 8.
Surely the wasp sting excuse was easy to discount/substantiate? Somebody must have asked to see the welt from the sting?
Not that getting stung would excuse what we see on the video,
I once took a bee to the face, then was stung in the throat when it dropped down my collar (Ironically while riding a motorbike)
I still managed to stay in my lane, finish crossing a bridge and successfully traverse 3 lanes of 100kph traffic to get to the shoulder before I could stop and pull the stinger out.
Used my indicator, checked my blind spots and swore my head off the whole time, and I'm allergic to the damn things. (neck swelled up so fat I couldn't refasten my jacket.)
