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Are Dogfaces and Dog Warriors the same people? i.e., do they transform into one mode and back?

Are there more than one kind of human-antipode hybrid? Wulvers?

Thanks in advance

There's a scale of things. Dogfaces are 1st gen hybrids. This information is in the human sphere book (and will probably remain in the revised one).

Dog faces are the offspring of human women bitten by Antipodes - and when the faces get stressed/seriously injured, they wolf out into the dog warriors.

Wulvers are 2nd gen hybrids - the offspring of a mating between a normal human and a dogface (they can't change shape).

Cameronians are dog faces who take wolf form BEFORE battle - they ONLY go into battle in that form.

McMurrough the mercenary, used to be a dogface but he is now STUCK in big-dog form, care of a careless viral ammo shot (he used to have a 2 model blister but the big dog part got a resculpt).

So what are US Devil Dogs?

I'd assume Devil Dogs are essentially like a Cameronian (take Dog Warrior form before the battle) who also has a pet, trained Antipode.

I'd assume Pretty much but I'd wait for the fluff on them - I've not seen any of the new stuff yet - only models/profiles.

This is why the AVA for Dogsoldiers, Cameronians and Devil dogs is a shared one (red text in the army lists).

Thanks for the replies.

I guess Dogfaces need Hulkpants (or Hulkkilts) >.>

Well, purple is easier to paint than tartan ...

The Merovingian Dog Warrior character (can't remember his name, but he's the Big Bad Wolf to his partner's Red Riding Hood) was the first, IIRC, to appear without a Dogface form; by comparison, the Dogfaces have 3 Wounds and transform when they lose their first one; he starts in Dog Warrior form, but has one less Wound. I can't remember if that holds true for the Cameronians and Dog Soldiers.

I always assumed he was transformed by his partner chucking him out the helicopter.

One thing I noticed is the US Devil Dog has no tail, unlike the other dog warriors.

It's been docked, is all.

Ariadna probably still does this in defiance of concilium accords ...


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 AndrewGPaul wrote:
The Merovingian Dog Warrior character (can't remember his name, but he's the Big Bad Wolf to his partner's Red Riding Hood) was the first, IIRC, to appear without a Dogface form; by comparison, the Dogfaces have 3 Wounds and transform when they lose their first one; he starts in Dog Warrior form, but has one less Wound. I can't remember if that holds true for the Cameronians and Dog Soldiers.

I always assumed he was transformed by his partner chucking him out the helicopter.

Duroc (I believe he is called Lafayette Duroc, but don't quote me - I don't play Ariadna nor have any wish to). Yup.

McMurrough got his permanent change thing when he got a new model and profile during the CP days.

Duroc is in his not-giant mode normally. He just skydives without a parachute out of his chopper, and transforms upon hitting the ground.

Then... what would cause them to change back? Unconsciousness? Death? Drugs? Good sex?

*shudders

None of those are pleasant mental images

 fellowhoodlum wrote:
Then... what would cause them to change back? Unconsciousness? Death? Drugs? Good sex?

I don't really go that deep into the fluff to care, tbh.

Just like space marines and sex. I just ... don't ... care.

But but... Now I need to know!

Well, the fluff says that only Margot is able to soothe him and keep him from going full on frenzied
Think of it what you want. What happens in the plane stays in the plane?

 TanKoL wrote:
Well, the fluff says that only Margot is able to soothe him and keep him from going full on frenzied
Think of it what you want. What happens in the plane stays in the plane?

<gets flashbacks of awkward Hulk/Black Widow romance in Avengers 2> :O

Well now, some fairy tales DO have "happy endings" then ...

Us Nomads from Bakunin are well versed in the art of dealing with Furries and Freaks..
Leave em in eiher the Morlock Gruppes or we use them for fights and sex toys like the Überfall Kommandos..
Hmm..
Maybe Margot and Duroc can find a new home in one of the modules aboard Bakunin..