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I am planning on building an Adeptus Mechanicus War Convocation for use against my local group and to accompany my IH in apocalypse ect. In my local meta I have to deal with white scars, eldar, necrons, grey knights, ultramarines, tau, space wolves, tyranids, chaos space marines, and chaos daemons. Some are cheese lists others are not. I go against the cheese more frequently. I need an all comers list that is decent against the majority ot things. I am still trying to familiarize myself with the Skitarii and Cult Mechanicus so input and suggestions is appreciated. I am tailoring the list for 2k points though at some point I will need to figure out a 1750 points and 1850 points list, but I am focusing on 2k points for now. Here is what I have so far:


Cult Mechanicus part (725pts)
Tech-Priest Dominus --Autocaduceus of Arkhan Land, Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Macrostubber, Volkite blaster (Warlord) (105pts)

3xKataphron Destroyer --Cognis flamer, Heavy grav-cannon (165pts)

3xKataphron Destroyer --Cognis flamer, Heavy grav-cannon (165pts)

Kastelan Robot Maniple (290pts)
+Cybernetica Datasmith --Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Uncreator Gauntlet (50pts)
+2xKastelan Robot --Heavy phosphor blaster, Twin-linked heavy phosphor blaster (240pts)


(Skitarii part) (835pts)
2xOnager Dunecrawler --Cognis heavy stubber, Cognis manipulator, Mindscanner probe, Neutron Laser and Cognis Heavy Stubber, Smoke launchers (180pts)

4x Sicarian Infiltrator --Stubcarbines and Power Swords; Infiltrator Princeps --Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Phosphoenix (185pts)

4x Sicarian Ruststalker --Transonic razor, Chordclaw, and Mindscrambler Grenades; Ruststalker Princeps --Conversion field, Digital weapons, Prehensile Dataspike, The Omniscient Mask (160pts)

9x Skitarii Ranger --Omnispex, 3x Transuranic arquebus; Ranger Alpha --Arc maul, Conversion field, Digital weapons, Galvanic rifle, The Skull of Elder Nikola (120pts)

9x Skitarii Vanguard --Omnispex, 3x Plasma caliver; Vanguard Alpha --Arc maul, Arc pistol, Conversion field, Pater Radium (100pts)

2xSydonian Dragoon --Phosphor serpenta, Radium jezzail (90pts)


(Imperial Knights part) (425pts)
Knight Crusader --Heavy Stubber, Stormspear Rocket Pod, Thermal Cannon (425pts)

Again, I am still learning about the rules for these armies, so if if there is something wrong please let me know.

4x Sicarian Infiltrator --Stubcarbines and Power Swords; Infiltrator Princeps --Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Phosphoenix (185pts)

After doing some looking, I think I will go with Flechette Blasters and Tase Goads. They lack the ap3, but I think they will cause more wounds do to the shear volume number of attacks. 3 base attacks from having a melee and pistol is also better (4 on the charge). 4 base and 5 on the charge on the princeps is better too. Not sure if I want the Phosphoenix or the Phase Taser.

I am also unsure of weather to drop an Onager, Dragoon, and 2 models from the Vanguard/Rangers for another min squad of Kataphron Destroyers. If the Destroyers get Objective Secured it might be worth it, but I don't see it written anywhere that the get that in the battle cogregation. I like the cogni flamers, but am wondering if the Phosphor balster might be better. Do like the idea of 9 automatic hits on the Wall of Death. Makes charging the Destroyers painful.

If someone who plays Adeptus Mechanicus or faces against them often enough to know the army could give some input it would be greatly appreciated.

 NorseSig wrote:

4x Sicarian Infiltrator --Stubcarbines and Power Swords; Infiltrator Princeps --Conversion field, Digital weapons, Infoslave Skull, Phosphoenix (185pts)

After doing some looking, I think I will go with Flechette Blasters and Tase Goads. They lack the ap3, but I think they will cause more wounds do to the shear volume number of attacks. 3 base attacks from having a melee and pistol is also better (4 on the charge). 4 base and 5 on the charge on the princeps is better too. Not sure if I want the Phosphoenix or the Phase Taser.

I am also unsure of weather to drop an Onager, Dragoon, and 2 models from the Vanguard/Rangers for another min squad of Kataphron Destroyers. If the Destroyers get Objective Secured it might be worth it, but I don't see it written anywhere that the get that in the battle cogregation. I like the cogni flamers, but am wondering if the Phosphor balster might be better. Do like the idea of 9 automatic hits on the Wall of Death. Makes charging the Destroyers painful.

If someone who plays Adeptus Mechanicus or faces against them often enough to know the army could give some input it would be greatly appreciated.[

Used em today. They are amazing with taser goads. That pistol? Epic. Idc if it's str 2

Used em today. They are amazing with taser goads. That pistol? Epic. Idc if it's str 2

That is good to know. The ap3 looks nice until you start doing the math. In fact I like these guys better than Terminators and Assault Terminators. Maybe they aren't as durable, but they seem to put out a lot more hurt based on the numbers.

What is your thoughts on the Dragoons? They worth their points? I was looking at the Ironstrider, but I couldn't fit two in the list. I am trying to make this a shooty, yet fairly mobile army (In the sense that I would prefer to avoid assaults). I am hoping the dragoons can run down the side and harass targets in the backfield. I am just not sure if I am better running them as shooting or melee. I am still debating on weather I want the crusader with the Thermal cannon or the Rapid Fire Battle cannon. I am pretty sure I will have to go against av14 at times and want to make sure I have enough things to crack it, but I may have enough everywhere else.

I have iron striders with the lascannon.. And the past two games they've done diddly. Idk if it's just my bad rolling or what, but they were a waste of points. The crusader, I have mine magnetized. Ran him with thermal cannon today and he did ok. He survived the whole game, but didn't earn his points back. My lancer on the other hand took out a biker squad with smash fether (iron hands chapter tactics) with the help of the kastellan robots.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I have iron striders with the lascannon.. And the past two games they've done diddly. Idk if it's just my bad rolling or what, but they were a waste of points. The crusader, I have mine magnetized. Ran him with thermal cannon today and he did ok. He survived the whole game, but didn't earn his points back. My lancer on the other hand took out a biker squad with smash fether (iron hands chapter tactics) with the help of the kastellan robots.

Maybe the battle cannon would be better then. More shots seems to have a bigger impact overall. The lancer isn't an option for me atm. I might get one eventually, but It will be after I get a castigator.

I think I might be better off with the Dragoon. I may try them out with the lance instead of shooting. It is kind of risky since they are open topped vehicles and not horribly durable, but 4 str 8 attacks on a charge with the possibility of generating extra attacks might be the ticket. Especially when running two of them. I may go with a lower points value IK if I do that so ican try and get at least one more dragoon for more overall durability. Probably a Warden if I do that.

On a side note a few Dragoons may be just what I need to take out Wraithknights for fairly cheap IDK.

Oh the crusader is good. You don't NEED a lancer, he just happened to do well that game. Another option is the warden. Saves some points, still has the Gatling gun, and can give it to stormspear and your still saving points which can go towards another onager or dragoon

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
Oh the crusader is good. You don't NEED a lancer, he just happened to do well that game. Another option is the warden. Saves some points, still has the Gatling gun, and can give it to stormspear and your still saving points which can go towards another onager or dragoon

I think you may be right. A 3rd dragoon might be a good investment. Though I guess I could also do some test games with both setups to get a feel for which is a better list.

Let me know what kind of results you get

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
Let me know what kind of results you get

Will do. I have a few days before my first game. I don't know how it will go. The person I am playing against has a sizeable force for just about every army, and he is a very good player. Though he does prefer Grey Knights, Space Wolves and Chaos Space Marines/Daemons, So expecting an assault army is a good bet. I am more worried about my opponent after him. He plays Necrons. I will probably lose against him since he is one of the two people who likes to field fliers (the other being a blood angels player) and I don't have any dedicated anti-air since the vast majority doesn't bother running aircraft. I have a month to get 2 games vs all the people in this "league" and the person with the most points at the end wins. The prize is mostly bragging rights. Thanks again for all your help I will update this post once I have all my games in. That should tell me what direction and changes I need to make. That is if enough people participate this month. Right now it looks like we have enough but who knows. A lot harder to get games in and set up "events" when your gaming store closed down lol.

So I was destroyed by the Tau player (0 - 2), which I expected. They are just too well situated to go against the Adeptus Mechanicus, so it is an uphill battle. Couple that with someone piloting a potential new army against someone who is very experienced in his army I was tabled in both games by second turn.

I went 1 - 1 against one of the eldar players. He only brought 3 WKs. My combination of grav and Dragoons let me take out the WKs before they became a serious headache in both games against him. The Maelstrom game he won on account of just being a lot more mobile and more numbers. The other Eldar player brought 4 WKs in his list and I went 0 - 2 against me. He is a LOT more competitive player with a lot more experience. It showed. 4 WKs are REALLY hard to deal with even with several units being good against them. WKs are just WAY too good for their cost. I did take them all out, but by time I was done I just didn't have enough forces to outlast everything else.

I went 2 - 0 vs the Orc player. I thought for sure he would get me on the maelstrom game, but on the 5th and 6th turn I got some lucky draws and won by 1 point with only my dominus left. Thank the dice gods the game ended. This was actually my second game and I made a LOT of mistakes, but overall had a BLAST. I LOVE playing the local Orc player. HE is just so much fun (as well as orcs in general) that I don't even care if I win or lose. The cognis flamers and sicarian infiltrators were the big winners this match up as well as the oranger and warden.

I went 2 - 0 vs the Blood Angels, Space Wolves, and Grey Knights players. The Dreadknights of the GK player gave me some trouble, but with all my grav and other high str shooting it wasn't too difficult to just delete the most troublesome units. It really helped that none of them managed to get off Invisibility in the games. As a side note Infiltrators make terminators cry. So glad I went with flechette and taser goads they were quite useful in nearly every game. I think things would have been more difficult if they would have brought their normal more competitive lists.

The game against the Tyranid player was one of those bizarre ones where either the dice hate you or love you. The first game I got major love and seemed to role 6s everywhere while she kept getting ones. She finally got fed up with the dice and got out different ones and did better after that, but it was too late. The maelstrom game was just the reverse. This was the only game where the infiltrators disappointed me when they lost combat and ran off the board due to bad rolls. Went 1-1 overall, but was a fun game.

There were a few more players but they dropped out due to schedule conflicts (had to go out of town for work for the month).

Overall I tied for 3rd with the second eldar player. The tau player took forst and the forst eldar player took second.

While I didn't really mention them the kastelan Robots were quite outstanding in every match. I see why they are so expensive. I might have to figure out a way to field more of them. Overall the Adeptus Mechanicus perform well imo. They aren't the most powerful or broken, but have the potential to win. They are by no means an auto win. Combine all that with their fluff I think I like them very much and I am definitely gonna build this army instead of just borrowing my friend's models from time to time. I feel they should have some more tanks and some transports though. Maybe they will come later. I don't feel I have to bring the absolute most cheese stuff with this army like I do with my Iron Hands (which also isn't fluffy).

I will be playing my IH this month in a fun local tournament. The Theme is Best Biker Brawl. Everyone brings an army which must consist almost entirely of bikes. Every plays 2 2000 point games against each other. One eternal war one maelstrom and at the end of the month on new years eve we will have an apoc game with these list trying to pare up battle brothers as best we can.