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So since the last thread was pretty much ignored I figured I'd take another crack at it to try to get some advice. I've recently made some plans to eventually add some Dark Eldar to my up and coming Eldar force (Iybraesil themed) and I was wondering if anyone had much experience with that that they could share? I wanted to make the DE force Wych Cult themed to go along with the Iybraesil theme that I had in my main force. This would mostly be for casual/fun games.

Well, even in casual games you'll struggle tomake wyches work. They are, no holds barred, among the worst units Iin the entire game.

So, if you want to go Wych themed, the best way to do it is: as few wyches and as many Reaver jetbikes as possible.

It's unfortunate they lost haywire, but I still believe they can be useful. A 4++ is great for holding up scary units in combat combined with a lot of high initiative attacks makes them good at munching through hordes. Personally I wouldn't do anything but hydra gauntlets and then equip the Succubus with haywire (she can still take them right?). If all else fails you get to laugh at grav spam like every other poorly armoured unit!

Or you could always try and bring back beast stars, if memory serves correctly all of your beastmasters can get agonizers!

A Wytch can't compete pound for pound with practically any cc unit in the game. For 10 points they are laughably overcosted in the era of overwatch.

A 10 man tactical squad takes out four wytches...in overwatch. A 10 man squad of wytches charging a 10 man squad of guardsmen with a flamer loses 3 - over half the cost of the guardsman squad - just to overwatch, then another one in the ensuing combat. Forget Venom squads entirely, there's nothing that can't out fight or just overwatch them to death.

If a 10 man guard squad can knock your cc unit down to half strength when you get the charge, your cc unit isn't a cc unit. It's a joke.

Could you give us a sample of what kind of lists are typical in your meta? Most of the useful advice (other than don't bother, wyches suck) would need to know where the bar needs to be set for power levels.

I'm aware that wyches are rather terrible. I'm going for more of a thematic force with the DE, i wouldn't be playing them all that much, just as a cool force to collect, and possibly as allies for eldar if I ever start them. If I don't then they'll remain as just a cool themed force to collect and paint. Plus I play in a rather casual meta, so wyches sucking isn't all that big of a hindrance for me.

 War Kitten wrote:
I'm aware that wyches are rather terrible. I'm going for more of a thematic force with the DE, i wouldn't be playing them all that much, just as a cool force to collect, and possibly as allies for eldar if I ever start them. If I don't then they'll remain as just a cool themed force to collect and paint. Plus I play in a rather casual meta, so wyches sucking isn't all that big of a hindrance for me.

If you want a collection that might be useful with eldar, I would strongly suggest raiders and wyches. Try to get a WWP. The raider and the WWP have some use in an eldar army, almost nothing else in the DE army benefits eldar.