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This is my HH list I have been running for about eight months. I recently, say about 30 min ago, had to re-evaluate the composition. I don't play in any tournaments, but with a small, casual group of friends. No other HH armies, so I have been playing against Red Scorpions, Necrons (The most difficult of the lot.) and Space Wolves.

With the new HH set coming out, I plan on seeing some new, rival Legion forces. Just want to see if there is any glaringly wrong or amiss with my list.

+++ XII Legiones Astartes World Eaters 8th Assault Company led by Kharn the Bloody, Captain of the 8th *PRIMARY LIST* (1995pts) +++

+ HQ (190pts) +
Kharn the Bloody (190pts) [Legacy of Blood, Master of the Legion, Rite of War : Berserker Assault]

+ Troops (675pts) +
Legion Tactical Squad (225pts) [Exchange their Bolters for a Chainsword or Combat Blade, 14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Melta Bombs, Power Weapon]

Legion Tactical Squad (225pts) [Exchange their Bolters for a Chainsword or Combat Blade, 14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Melta Bombs, Power Weapon]

Legion Tactical Squad (225pts) [Exchange their Bolters for a Chainsword or Combat Blade, 14x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla]
····Legion Tactical Sergeant [Melta Bombs, Power Weapon]

+ Elites (800pts) +
Contemptor Dreadnought Talon (210pts) [Carapace Mounted Havoc Launcher, Graviton Gun, Twin-linked Autocannon]

Contemptor-Mortis Dreadnought (195pts) [Carapace Mounted Havoc Launcher, Two Kheres Pattern Assault Cannons]

Legion Destroyer Squad (395pts) [Jump Packs, 9x Legion Destroyer Space Marine, 2x Missile Launcher with Suspensor Web and Rad Missiles Only]
····Legion Destroyer Sergeant [Phosphex bomb, Power weapon]

+ Heavy Support (330pts) +
Legion Spartan Assault Tank (330pts) [Auxiliary Drive, Flare Shield]

Thoughts? I tried to go infantry heavy, as that seems to be the preferences for the World Eaters Legion. The Spartan, now, will be running a Legion Tactical squad + Kharn up the table, while the rest move + run supported by the Contemptor Dreadnoughts and Destroyers to objectives. This is my running list, but I have been buying other units and vehicles to switch out with others, or beef up to 3000pts, which is the recommended points for HH.

Mat

Took out the UFI and points. Much easier to read.

No comments. Cool.

To me - it feels like you have sunk way to many points into upgrades and gear to get the points up (which is a novelty in 30k - I always seem to have too few points!)

Kharn is awesome but you could easily save 50+points by swapping him for a centurion with chaplain. This buffs the unit he joins far better (Zealot).

The tacticals are fine as they are but you are probably better off rolling them into 2x20 as that way you get the most out of the Spartan and the chaplain. You also then save some points on the tax for the 3rd unit which can be used to add some much needed fire support.

I am no fan of the way you have loaded the contemptors - you can ditch the havoc off the mortis for starters. Ditto on the basic one.I would prefer a Kheres rather than the auto cannon but the auto would be fine regardless.

While I love destroyers, this units is so over priced its not funny. If you have them and love them - keep them. Personally, I would loose them for something else - quad mortars if you are ok with adding fire support or maybe even jetbikes for a mobile assault force with some ranged punch.
Maybe both!

The Spartan is a beast for sure but the reason you have been hitting issues is this tank. Its massively expensive, even more so to make it as durable as possible (why no armoured ceramite?!?) and with you having just a single vehicle - it will take every single AT attack your enemy has - necrons will no doubt love it!

You need to support it with other armour - even a couple of rhinos carrying despoiler squads would do. You need to divide the AT attacks out among the assault transports to ensure that some make it to the enemy.

While I think about it - add an apothecary to the unit in the Spartan - its a must have option!

I play with Rites of War, so a single Centurion is no good for this list, and is why I use three troops choices.

Destroyers are very points costly, but fun to use. I plan on purchasing some Sicaran tanks, so they can be subbed out with them. Also eyeing you either a Javelin Squadron or the Jetbikes.

You don't like Havoc launchers?

Besides melta bombs, most of my opponents use very little melta weapons. The flare shields have worked great in keeping it alive, as they use a load of Str 9 weapons. Drop the Auxiliary Drive and sub in Armored Ceramite?

 combat engineer wrote:
I play with Rites of War, so a single Centurion is no good for this list, and is why I use three troops choices.

Destroyers are very points costly, but fun to use. I plan on purchasing some Sicaran tanks, so they can be subbed out with them. Also eyeing you either a Javelin Squadron or the Jetbikes.

You don't like Havoc launchers?

Besides melta bombs, most of my opponents use very little melta weapons. The flare shields have worked great in keeping it alive, as they use a load of Str 9 weapons. Drop the Auxiliary Drive and sub in Armored Ceramite?

If you opponent has the balls, he magnetized his weapons so he can melta spam non-cermaite mooks. Contemptors are not worth it compared to standard dreads.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 combat engineer wrote:
I play with Rites of War, so a single Centurion is no good for this list, and is why I use three troops choices.

Destroyers are very points costly, but fun to use. I plan on purchasing some Sicaran tanks, so they can be subbed out with them. Also eyeing you either a Javelin Squadron or the Jetbikes.

You don't like Havoc launchers?

Besides melta bombs, most of my opponents use very little melta weapons. The flare shields have worked great in keeping it alive, as they use a load of Str 9 weapons. Drop the Auxiliary Drive and sub in Armored Ceramite?

If you opponent has the balls, he magnetized his weapons so he can melta spam non-cermaite mooks. Contemptors are not worth it compared to standard dreads.

That I disagree with. The Contemptor Mortis is great with the Kheres assault cannons. Most armour, infantry and air are easy prey units. The normal Contemptor is a bit over priced, and in all honesty I would prefer a CCW/ assault variant to the one I have.

Mst

I was going to say; Autocannons are best for a stand-back-and-shoot dread, which seems weird when paired with a combat weapon arm.

Still, it makes for an imposing tactical unit.

3 x 15 dudes with melee weapons is nice and will hit hard. If planning to have a big mass of bodies charging up the board, I recommend planning Angron into your 3,000pt army, because "Sire of the World Eaters" suits that playstyle right down to the ground.

Depending on preferences or modelling options; can I make one suggestion?

The best option you have for your squad sergeants that's unique to the Age Of Darkness rules is the ability to put them in artificer armour. It's the same price as a power sword and is arguably a better buy - it protects your sergeant from being sniped out of the squad, and if you have a challenge between one guy who's spent 10 points on a power sword and one guy who's spent 10 points on a chain-sword and artificer plate..... the latter should win easily.

I have power axes on m Squad Sgts. I might look at taking out the Havoc launchers from the Contemptors and try out the artificer armour on the Sgts. Challenges is no something that usually pops up in our games.

If I read the AoD Lords of War correctly, I can get Angron in on my 2000 point list. I would simply drop the Destroyers. I would also save a few points on Kharn, as he would not get his upgrade. And I own him, so it might be amusing to use.