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Hey everyone! I looked up the Sororitas on this index, and there was somebody working on a formation detachment for Sisters but seems they lost interest. SO! Here's my take on it. I might be going a little strong on formation perks, but I'm trying to take an older, lower tier dex and be able to toe to toe with the likes of current Space Marines and Eldar. Though on some formations I feel I MAY have gone too far. Regardless, take a gander and lemme know what you guys think.


Formation Detachment Project

Sororitas Mission

Detachment Rules

All models with Shield of Faith improve their invulnerable save to (5+)

All squads that can take a simulacrum imperialis may get one for free. As long as the bearer is alive that squad may roll for their Act of Faith power every round. If in range of a laud hailer, the roll is automatically successful. If the bearer is killed they may not use their power at all for the rest of the game

Every character in this formation detachment provides 1 warp charge to the controlling player. To be used only for deny the witch tests.

Core 1+ required


“The Exalted March”
1 Cannoness
1 Sororitas Command squad
2-6 Units of battle sisters
1-5 Priests may substitute one priest for Jacobus
May take an Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave per priest taken, including Jacobus

Units in this formation may select upgrades from the Melee, Ranged, Special and Heavy weapons tables at no cost. (One free upgrade per model)


Command

0-1 per “Exalted March”
“Legends of the Ecclesiarchy”
Celestine, or Jacobus

Auxiliary 1-10 per core

Ophelia’s Fury
3 squads of Celestians
benefits Relentless, preferred enemy “Psykers” Any unit with psy rating, psychic pilot, brotherhood of psykers/sorcerers etc

Witch Chasers
3 squads of dominion sisters
Benefits
Free Dedicated Transports. Upgrades must be purchased regularly.

Purge Squadron
3 squads Retributors
Restriction
Each individual squad must buy 4 of the same heavy weapon
Benefits
Each squad may fire all their weapons together with one of the following profiles based on what weapons they bought.


(Heavy Bolters) “Bolter storm” rng 36" S 5 Ap 4 Heavy 2 Large Blast
(Heavy Flamers) “Flamer Storm” Hellstorm S 5 AP 4 Heavy 1
(Multi-Meltas) “Melta Lance” rng 24" S 8 Ap 1 Heavy 1 beam

If the 3 squads possessing at least 1 of each type of heavy weapon combine their shooting, thy may make one attack with the following profile. All three units must be in range and LOS of the target squad
“Holy Trinity” Rng 24" S 6 AP 3 heavy 1 melta ignores cover massive blast

Cult of Repentance
1-3 units of Penitent Engines
3 squads - Repentia
Benefits
Feel No Pain (5+)(For Repentia)
Rampage, It will not Die(For Penitent Engines)


Wrath from on high
3-5 Seraphim squads
0-1 Saint Celestine
Benefits
May choose to deep strike on turn 1-2 without a roll
Shred on turn they arrive
Reroll invulnerable saves

Exorcist choir
3 Exorcist Tanks
Benefits
To determine number of shots for all tanks in this formation roll 1d6 per tank and take the highest result for all tanks in the formation.

A few things:

Free wargear/transports make me itch. I know, I know, Marines got it, but I don't like it there either. That said, I'm hard-pressed to figure out what else to give them, here.

A slight amendment to the overall formation benefit: Word it as "improve their invulnerable save by 1", perhaps? This means that Uriah Jacobus' fixed warlord trait is still useful (and likewise if you roll it on a Canoness), and also, a Canoness with a Rosarius would now have a 3++. That's powerful, to be sure, but not any worse than a Captain with a Storm Shield, and those, or their equivalent, are available in every Astartes Codex... Now, if she was your warlord and lucked into that trait, sure, she'd have a 2+. Ever fought an Archon? Well, you now know why that does not worry me.

Purge Squadron: the Melta Lance firing mode should probably have both Melta and Lance, belike? Also possibly Ordnance 1 instead of Heavy 1.

Cult of Repentance: Maybe this is a little too much, but +3" to Move and Charge and Crusader? This would mitigate the fact that Repentia are nigh unto useless without an allied Land Raider or Stormraven to stuff them into.

As for the Wrath From On High formation, the benefits need some rethinking: Angelic Visage lets the Seraphim re-roll their Shield of Faith save anyway, so this mostly just affects Celestine's 4++. Also, they have an AoF for Shred anyway, and as an IC, Celestine can join one squad and share their AoF's benefit. Maybe make it so that their AoF gives them Shred in the Assault Phase as well?

Exorcist Choir: What about this - the Exorcist Missile Launcher fires d3+3 shots instead of d6, and becomes Ordnance instead of Heavy? I'd be tempted to give them Preferred Enemy (Vehicles and Monstrous Creatures) too, but maybe that's gilding the lily.

Good ideas, I should clarify that the bonus to invulns was meant only to apply to shield of Faith invulns. Not a rosarius. For shred on the seraphim, my goal there is to let them use it twice as they can't take a simulacrum. You think I should tack Lance onto a beam attack with melta? Potent. Potent indeed. Not saying no to that. Just seems mighty mighty.

Well, it *is* powerful, but it's a single shot (albeit a beam), and you have to take three Retributor squads to get it, which you're fighting to tuck into 2000 points by the time you kit out the core formation, really. Plus, since that's Melta, not Armourbane, you've gotta get close to make the most of it. Lance at least lets it threaten a Monolith sitting at the limit of its range without just fishing for a 6 (and then only removing one hull point if you get one...)

Taken into consideration. So back to the core formation. Opinions there? Because other than "free swag" and for the dominions free transports I'm stuck.

Maybe this - Battle Sister squads that are a part of this formation, joined by Priests from this formation, gain +1 to their Weapon Skill and Ballistic Skill for as long as the Priest is alive. Priests within 12" of the Canoness or the Command Squad may re-roll Leadership tests to activate War Hymns.

For Witch Chasers: Non-vehicle units from this formation gain Stealth and Shrouded until they move, run, shoot or charge. Krak Grenades used by units from this formation, either at range or in melee, have Rending.

That kind of makes Witch Chasers relatively worthless as a formation. Particularly as due to them having scout, putting them in a transport is borderline mandatory to make the most of them. And with melta guns, they'll have to move to catch up to anything worth shooting anyways. Just doesn't seem like it'll actually help it.

Now for the Battle Sister Squads, the +1 to BS is nice. Couples with their act of faith to basically just be BS10 though. Idk if that might be a little too much? A few free guns might ruffle less feathers than "we almost never miss"

Oh, I see what you mean with the Witch Chasers... Hmm. I was originally thinking to give them Stealth and Shrouded turn 1 so they don't get shot off the table in the first turn, when they might not be able to get in range and still fire anyway (like say, if you're going second, especially if you get seized). Makes more sense in retrospect without the non-vehicle stipulation - it's hard to abuse and it's not like the vehicles can get away without moving anyway.

I think the hyper-accurate Battle Sister Squads shouldn't be too much of a hassle, balance-wise. Most of that fire is bolters, anyway. Granted, it makes the meltas or multi-meltas scary, but that's something of a given anyway. It also creates a strong incentive for an opponent to snipe out the Simulacrum Imperialis or the Priest. Not like Priests are exceptionally resilient, after all. Sure, they shrug off lascannons 50% of the time, but say, massed lasguns will ruin their whole day.

Won't the Dominions lose their Stealth and Shrouded instantly because Scouting is a move?

The intent would be not to - but Scout is a redeployment, not a move, isn't it? I mean, you can scout, and then still move in the Movement phase of your first turn, or fire as if you had not moved, no?

Phrasing would need some work, either way then. The intent is that you would be strongly protected from shooting until you take some kind of aggressive action, but *not* be protected the whole game. Dominions are expensive enough that losing them before they get to fire really hurts, so that's what I want to shield against. (Though, Repressors do that fairly nicely, since there are enough fire points to shoot everything out of...)

Furyou, Scout used to be movement, hence the reason why scouting vehicles could pop smoke. GW changed Scout to be redeployment, so anything that scouts hasn't moved yet.

Making some modifications based on the ideas put forward that I like. As I'm not sold on the increasing Battle Sisters WS or BS, or the stealth/shrouded on Dominions. Seems "free stuff" is a super common perk for Imperial armies. So, I'll just roll with it for now. Also, while I like making each Exorcist a d3+3, my idea was the tanks are each a part of a chorus and building up each others crescendos.

Sororitas Mission

Detachment Rules

All models with Shield of Faith improve their invulnerable saves by 1. Eg, 6++ becomes 5++, 5++ becomes 4++

All squads that can take a simulacrum imperialis may get one for free. As long as the bearer is alive that squad may roll for their Act of Faith power every round. If the bearer of the Simulacrum is killed they may not use their power at all for the rest of the game

Every character in this formation detachment provides 1 warp charge to the controlling player on the enemies psychic phase. To be used only for deny the witch tests.

Core 1+ required


“The Exalted March”
1 Cannoness
1 Sororitas Command squad
2-6 Units of battle sisters
1-5 Priests may substitute one priest for Jacobus
May take an Ecclesiarchy Battle Conclave per priest taken, including Jacobus

Units in this formation may select upgrades from the Melee, Ranged, Special and Heavy weapons tables at no cost. (One free upgrade per model)


Command

0-1 per “Exalted March”
“Legends of the Ecclesiarchy”
Celestine, or Jacobus

Auxiliary 1-10 per core

Ophelia’s Fury
3 squads of Celestians
benefits Relentless, preferred enemy “Psykers” Any unit with psy rating, psychic pilot, brotherhood of psykers/sorcerers etc

Witch Chasers
3 squads of dominion sisters
Benefits
Free Dedicated Transports. Upgrades must be purchased regularly.

Purge Squadron
3 squads Retributors
Restriction
Each individual squad must buy 4 of the same heavy weapon
Benefits
Each squad may fire all their weapons together with one of the following profiles based on what weapons they bought.


(Heavy Bolters) “Bolter storm” rng 36" S 5 Ap 4 Heavy 2 Large Blast
(Heavy Flamers) “Flamer Storm” Hellstorm S 5 AP 4 Heavy 1
(Multi-Meltas) “Melta Lance” rng 24" S 8 Ap 1 Ordnance 1 beam, lance

If the 3 squads possessing at least 1 of each type of heavy weapon combine their shooting, thy may make one attack with the following profile. All three units must be in range and LOS of the target squad
“Holy Trinity” Rng 24" S 6 AP 3 heavy 1 melta ignores cover massive blast

Cult of Repentance
1-3 units of Penitent Engines
3 squads - Repentia
Benefits
Crusader
Feel No Pain (5+)(For Repentia)
Rampage, It will not Die(For Penitent Engines)


Wrath from on high
3-5 Seraphim squads
0-1 Saint Celestine
Benefits
Entire formation may choose to deep strike on turn 1-2 without a roll
Shred on turn they arrive, enabling them to use their act of faith in subsequent rounds
Reroll invulnerable saves(Celestine only)

Exorcist choir
3 Exorcist Tanks
Benefits
To determine number of shots for all tanks in this formation roll 1d6 per tank and take the highest result for all tanks in the formation.

Heavy Flamer purge squadron. Yikes. Hellstorm rending templates.

 pretre wrote:
Heavy Flamer purge squadron. Yikes. Hellstorm rending templates.

Aye, however it's heavy. So they can't very well roll on you and make that happen.