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Warhams-77 wrote:
There is no camp burning, bandwagon fake info to create an agenda.

There is actually.

Some Polish guy is currently at the scene.

Thought it is in french, you'll find here a map of the attacked sites. 7 in total: http://lci.tf1.fr/france/faits-divers/attaques-dans-paris-la-carte-des-sept-sites-touches-8683447.html

Thanks for the Reuters link Warhams-77.

 Frozocrone wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
More than 100 people in a single location have been killed according to BBC.

Looks like.I'm gonna have to walk my niece to school again, some Muslims blow up something and people shout hate at a 14 year old, measured response as usual.

Ugh, I hate that. It's easy to bandwagon on 'Muslims are evil!' when in reality these terrorists count for less than .01% of the 1.6b Muslims in the world.

True but look at the damage that small percentage has done. I'm sure a lot of the European countries don't allow people to have weapons. Just gotta press this and ramp up security. Also considering the terrorists stopped at the train, these attacks today and that shooting of the news room (whatever it was) and you see france is getting targeted a lot. Seriously what have the French done to get targeted so much by terrorists recently. It baffles my mind how many attacks are being thrown at you guys in recent times.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
More than 100 people in a single location have been killed according to BBC.

Looks like.I'm gonna have to walk my niece to school again, some Muslims blow up something and people shout hate at a 14 year old, measured response as usual.

Ugh, I hate that. It's easy to bandwagon on 'Muslims are evil!' when in reality these terrorists count for less than .01% of the 1.6b Muslims in the world.

True but look at the damage that small percentage has done. I'm sure a lot of the European countries don't allow people to have weapons. Just gotta press this and ramp up security. Also considering the terrorists stopped at the train, these attacks today and that shooting of the news room (whatever it was) and you see france is getting targeted a lot. Seriously what have the French done to get targeted so much by terrorists recently. It baffles my mind how many attacks are being thrown at you guys in recent times.

I'm asking myself the same question, and i can only guess that they're an easy target? Maybe security is lax or something? I don't know. But 'revenge' on them for what's going on in syria would be laughable under other circumstances.

 Torga_DW wrote:

Spoiler:

 Frozocrone wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
need I remind you how much bloodshed has been carried out for other religious causes? Brainwashed Muslim extremists are attacking these places. Stop typecasting.

Everyone knows it's extremists. This doesn't change the fact that it's just one religion responsible for religious terrorism nowadays.

*sigh* it's not one religion is it though?Plus- It's just a group of people with a heavily skewed vision of how Islam should be. Not the whole thing.

Try telling that to the masses. A lot of people on my social media channels are generalising it to every Muslim. I don't know why, but they seem to be more eager to generalise individuals to Islam than, I don't know, Christianity.

For me i accept that it's one group. But my question is: just how large is that group? Both proportionately and in total? Its becoming more and more serious an issue as time goes by. Also, my condolences to those involved and i hope things don't get any worse for you.

What do you mean by that? People that bandwagon on generalising Muslims or Muslims involved in terrorist attacks?

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 Frozocrone wrote:

 Formosa wrote:
More than 100 people in a single location have been killed according to BBC.

Looks like.I'm gonna have to walk my niece to school again, some Muslims blow up something and people shout hate at a 14 year old, measured response as usual.

Ugh, I hate that. It's easy to bandwagon on 'Muslims are evil!' when in reality these terrorists count for less than .01% of the 1.6b Muslims in the world.

source?

 Frozocrone wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

Spoiler:

 Frozocrone wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
need I remind you how much bloodshed has been carried out for other religious causes? Brainwashed Muslim extremists are attacking these places. Stop typecasting.

Everyone knows it's extremists. This doesn't change the fact that it's just one religion responsible for religious terrorism nowadays.

*sigh* it's not one religion is it though?Plus- It's just a group of people with a heavily skewed vision of how Islam should be. Not the whole thing.

Try telling that to the masses. A lot of people on my social media channels are generalising it to every Muslim. I don't know why, but they seem to be more eager to generalise individuals to Islam than, I don't know, Christianity.

For me i accept that it's one group. But my question is: just how large is that group? Both proportionately and in total? Its becoming more and more serious an issue as time goes by. Also, my condolences to those involved and i hope things don't get any worse for you.

What do you mean by that? People that bandwagon on generalising Muslims or Muslims involved in terrorist attacks?

Muslims involved in terrorist attacks.

According to some Twitter posts, the terrorist threat WILL be more intense tomorrow and afterwards.




(Take this at what it is : Something found on twitter)

Some of us don't know French... :/

 LethalShade wrote:
According to some Twitter posts, the terrorist threat WILL be more intense tomorrow and afterwards.

Spoiler:

(Take this at what it is : Something found on twitter)

A lot of us don't know french. What does it say?

"From a journalist friend : "Friends, I was "lucky" to hear from the RG (intelligence services) that the terrorist threat will be even more violent tomorrow.

This is true.

STAY AT HOME. Send this to your relatives.

And take care of yourselves."

something journalists, chance of terrorist encore of violence is my non-french translation.

 whembly wrote:
Some of us done know French... :/

The twit says that a journalist friend heard from the RG (I don't know to what to compare them, CIA I suppose) that tomorrow the terrorism threat will be more violent.

 Torga_DW wrote:

 Frozocrone wrote:

 Torga_DW wrote:

Spoiler:

 Frozocrone wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 Sigvatr wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
need I remind you how much bloodshed has been carried out for other religious causes? Brainwashed Muslim extremists are attacking these places. Stop typecasting.

Everyone knows it's extremists. This doesn't change the fact that it's just one religion responsible for religious terrorism nowadays.

*sigh* it's not one religion is it though?Plus- It's just a group of people with a heavily skewed vision of how Islam should be. Not the whole thing.

Try telling that to the masses. A lot of people on my social media channels are generalising it to every Muslim. I don't know why, but they seem to be more eager to generalise individuals to Islam than, I don't know, Christianity.

For me i accept that it's one group. But my question is: just how large is that group? Both proportionately and in total? Its becoming more and more serious an issue as time goes by. Also, my condolences to those involved and i hope things don't get any worse for you.

What do you mean by that? People that bandwagon on generalising Muslims or Muslims involved in terrorist attacks?

Muslims involved in terrorist attacks.

I can't answer that. I admit that it is becoming more of a problem, but I would imagine social groups around you influence that. There is a predominately Muslim community near where I live that recently, publicly celebrated Hussain. I felt comfortable enough to walk through the celebrations and pretty much every day when I need to get to the city centre.

In other places, where you've got extremists influencing you, I would imagine it would be much easier to sway you to becoming a 'freedom fighter'.

@LethalShade damn.

(thanks!!)

Everyone is watching everyone, so I hope the French Officials identifies and tracks down these "lone wolves".

Sounds like france is no longer safe. If there is a chance maybe you guys should move to another country. Might be an over-reaction though.

I hope the chance of escalating violence is just an unfounded rumor

It's because France has hit them hard in africa ( Mali) and then attacked them again in iraqi (and very recently a litlle in Syria).
But France security is not "bad" or "lax",it is in fact a really good one, avoiding a lot of attacks from years.
But you can't watch after everyone everytime, especially when there are more and more guys to watch after...

158 confirmed dead by local French Officials.

Something positive: people in Paris offering refuge to strangers who can't get out of city via twitter.

 godardc wrote:
It's because France has hit them hard in africa ( Mali) and then attacked them again in iraqi (and very recently a litlle in Syria).
But France security is not "bad" or "lax",it is in fact a really good one, avoiding a lot of attacks from years.
But you can't watch after everyone everytime, especially when there are more and more guys to watch after...

True but you don't see the usa getting hit this badly anymore. After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
Sounds like france is no longer safe. If there is a chance maybe you guys should move to another country. Might be an over-reaction though.

A bad day on the roads can kill more people.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 godardc wrote:
It's because France has hit them hard in africa ( Mali) and then attacked them again in iraqi (and very recently a litlle in Syria).
But France security is not "bad" or "lax",it is in fact a really good one, avoiding a lot of attacks from years.
But you can't watch after everyone everytime, especially when there are more and more guys to watch after...

True but you don't see the usa getting hit this badly anymore. After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.

We're closer and way more accessible.

Syria was under French mandate until the middle of the 20th century (didn't go very well ad you might imagine), and the Assad government is essentially a successor to the one the French instilled when they left. France also has a rotten reputation in North Africa owing to the war in Algeria, and has consistently been one of the most active states in Middle Eastern geopolitics. That Islamic extremists would target France isn't that outlandish.

Frozocrone wrote:I can't answer that. I admit that it is becoming more of a problem, but I would imagine social groups around you influence that. There is a predominately Muslim community near where I live that recently, publicly celebrated Hussain. I felt comfortable enough to walk through the celebrations and pretty much every day when I need to get to the city centre.

In other places, where you've got extremists influencing you, I would imagine it would be much easier to sway you to becoming a 'freedom fighter'.

I can't answer it either, but the question needs to be raised and soon. It's also harder given that they're not always nations involved but organisations operating inside otherwise peaceful-ish nations.

whembly wrote:(thanks!!)

Everyone is watching everyone, so I hope the French Officials identifies and tracks down these "lone wolves".

If there are 4 simultaneous attacks at the same time, i'm less inclined to call them 'lone wolves'.

godardc wrote:It's because France has hit them hard in africa ( Mali) and then attacked them again in iraqi (and very recently a litlle in Syria).
But France security is not "bad" or "lax",it is in fact a really good one, avoiding a lot of attacks from years.
But you can't watch after everyone everytime, especially when there are more and more guys to watch after...

Ah, i see.

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.

France has a large, poorly integrated Muslim community that both allows for local recruitment as well as help hide imported militants. The nature of France's location on the world map also makes the idea of watertight borders impossible. The US has this huge honking pond called the Atlantic to cover them.

 gunslingerpro wrote:
158 confirmed dead by local French Officials.

Something positive: people in Paris offering refuge to strangers who can't get out of city via twitter.

Well yeah but they're strangers. Just best to be careful who you give shelter to. The world can sometimes take kindness and bite you in the *** for it. For all we know those kind strangers could turn into new hostages. Let's hope not but the possibility is still there. I thought some terrorists were said to have gotten away.

This is horrible to read about. It's especially unsettling how spread out yet coordinated it seems to be.

When ever I see 'it's only 1% or 0.01% of a population who support/do this' I feel as though you also have to have to factor in the size of it. Considering that there Is at or close to a 1.6 billion Muslims That 1% is about 16 million or even with the 0.01% that's1.6 million, terrorist scum who call allah their god. Then the numbers become staggering instead of a statistic.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:
After 9/11 our attacks went down considerably whereas French ones seem to have escalated to ridiculous proportions. I always thought if anything the USA was their #1 enemy. Well maybe us and Israel but we're definitely near the top.

France has a large, poorly integrated Muslim community that both allows for local recruitment as well as help hide imported militants. The nature of France's location on the world map also makes the idea of watertight borders impossible. The US has this huge honking pond called the Atlantic to cover them.

Yeah I suppose so. I was just curious is all.

.01% is 16,000. Still, 16,000 too many.

 Frozocrone wrote:
.01% is 16,000. Still, 16,000 too many.

It was in the billions not millions I factored in