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Risk making this individual a Martyr eh
Life Imprisonment so he can die of natural cause thereby denying him Paradise

 Jihadin wrote:
Risk making this individual a Martyr eh
Life Imprisonment so he can die of natural cause thereby denying him Paradise

The problem is, a "Life sentence" rarely means life these days. The concept of a Life sentence has been so undermined and its reputation tarnished over the years due to high profile murderers being released after a couple of decades or on compassionate grounds that I simply cannot

There has to be a legally binding irrevocable clause of no chance for parole ever, and no chance of compassionate parole ever (for instance, I don't think a mass murderer such as the Lockerbie bomber should be released simply because he develops cancer), for a Life sentence to be a meaningful alternative to a death penalty. A genuine Life sentence should be a de facto death sentence - you are being sentenced to live out the rest of your life in prison until the day you die, no matter what happens (besides exoneration, obviously).

Solitary though. I highly doubt they put that nutter in with the General Population

 Jihadin wrote:
Solitary though. I highly doubt they put that nutter in with the General Population

If the isolation drives him mad, I can live with that.

I think that ship has already sailed, Edithae...

 Compel wrote:
I think that ship has already sailed, Edithae...

Well, I mean drive him "insane" by the mans own standards.

We might know he's already insane, but I want him to feel that he's losing his sanity. That means almost total de-humanization, and lack of human contact besides basic interactions with his jailors and a couple hours a hour day outside solitary confinement for exercise.

He is already a de-humanized crazed monster, and a religious radical one.

The goal is to deny him the Paradise option by keeping him alive then to make him a Martyr and "Justification" to enter Paradise by executing him.

Unbelievable, not only will it take months to fight the extradition to the country next door, but he wants to die the French for 'breaching his confidentiality' when they revealed some of his murderous intentions. It's an obvious abuse of the system designed by his lawyer to jam proceedings.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35855032

Let him sue after he's found innocent.

Lock him up till the very walls of his cell become his entire universe.

Soul crushing universe of no concerete and steel.

Good. Glad to see he's finally been caught. I hope we'll be able to get useful information from him.

Interesting how rapidly the conversation of the crowd here strays away from 'justice' and 'public safety' into 'unnecessary torture and humiliation'.

Really? Feeding him pork products or letting other criminals have him? Is that really what a civilization does, as opposed to just executing or locking away these people forever after seeing what intelligence can be gained?

Question him, then lock him up forever. That's all of the attention he deserves.

 Killionaire wrote:
Interesting how rapidly the conversation of the crowd here strays away from 'justice' and 'public safety' into 'unnecessary torture and humiliation'.

If at least it was from people blinded by grief. But I don't think so, not so many French flag to be seen.

I hope they'll squeeze as many information as possible out of him, and they manage to make this dissuade as many people as possible from doing terror attack.
Also I hope Islamism as an ideology will soon get killed off and nobody will ever think of trying to enforce the laws of Islam on themselves or others. Or any religious law, for that matter.

 Hybrid Son Of Oxayotl wrote:

Also I hope Islamism as an ideology will soon get killed off and nobody will ever think of trying to enforce the laws of Islam on themselves or others. Or any religious law, for that matter.

I'm afraid it's a very, very optimistic hope.

People still try to teach creationism in some places in the developed world, so yeah, very optimistic hope.

 Tyran wrote:
People still try to teach creationism in some places in the developed world, so yeah, very optimistic hope.

Because creationism is on the same scale as Shariah Law...

 djones520 wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
People still try to teach creationism in some places in the developed world, so yeah, very optimistic hope.

Because creationism is on the same scale as Shariah Law...

It's pretty much the same idea:"my beliefs are the true ones and everyone should follow them".

 Tyran wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
People still try to teach creationism in some places in the developed world, so yeah, very optimistic hope.

Because creationism is on the same scale as Shariah Law...

It's pretty much the same idea:"my beliefs are the true ones and everyone should follow them".

That's a pretty broad brush, many non religious, non harmful ideals fall into that category.


The delineating factor is not people trying to teach a certain belief/value that is factually incorrect, it is teaching beliefs/values that promote violence, unequal status for women/infidels/ect and other human rights violations.

Exactly. It's putting your standard sunday school teachings on the same level as what ISIS uses to justify genocide, and that is ridiculous.

 easysauce wrote:

 Tyran wrote:

 djones520 wrote:

 Tyran wrote:
People still try to teach creationism in some places in the developed world, so yeah, very optimistic hope.

Because creationism is on the same scale as Shariah Law...

It's pretty much the same idea:"my beliefs are the true ones and everyone should follow them".

That's a pretty broad brush, many non religious, non harmful ideals fall into that category.


The delineating factor is not people trying to teach a certain belief/value that is factually incorrect, it is teaching beliefs/values that promote violence, unequal status for women/infidels/ect and other human rights violations.

The point is that people still try to force on others religious ideas in the developed world, first fix that and then you may consider fixing the developing and undeveloped worlds.
As I said, it is a very optimistic hope.

 djones520 wrote:
Because creationism is on the same scale as Shariah Law...

No, but it is certainly a pretty good sign that obscurantism is hard to eradicate .
Well, Albania managed to do it pretty damn well, maybe the U.S. will catch up too .

 Tyran wrote:


The point is that people still try to force on others religious ideas in the developed world, first fix that and then you may consider fixing the developing and undeveloped worlds.
As I said, it is a very optimistic hope.

People try to force their opinion on others pretty much with everything, religion is just one example.

Update!!

The BBC is reporting that the remaining key suspect in November's attack in Paris has been arrested.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-36000407

Good.