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Experiment 626 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

Experiment 626 wrote:

 Mantorok wrote:
What about if you play an OP army and lose to fluffy armies?

Are you a competitive or non-competitive player?

Apparently you're a scrub who just needs to 'L2P' and 'Git Gud.'

I once lost a 1500 point game against an opponent who could only bring about 900 points...

Come to think of it, I've lost every game I played against someone who wasn't a family member...

As for why I didn't match their points, it was during my first and only local tournament and I thought it would be an easy win. : (

Don't sweat it mate - I myself have never once passed Cypher's special 4++ save on 3D6... including when I was told to re-roll it.
The manager of the local GW at the time banned me from ever using the store's Cypher model again, as everyone was in absolute agony from laughing so hard. (so then I bought Dark Eldar, as I'd at least earn a moral victory for inflicting actual pain on opponents in-game! )

Personally I'd rather see my opponent have a good time (and a really good laugh, even if it's typically at my expense) than win a game of plastic man dollies.

I took it a bit hard at the time. At least emotionally - I remember feeling sad about it, but I don't remember how I acted, other than we both realized he was winning at the same time.

Of course, now I feel really bad about not lowering my points to match his. At least I gave him the satisfaction of beating a army with 66% more points than his.

He was a young kid, too. Younger than I was.

And to Talizvar...

Would I get high or low points for my army's fiction if I show up with... simply put, furries, in my 40k army, combined with custom fluff that makes my Sisters of Battle not be aggressively xenocidal and religiously intolerant? I'm just curious - I'll likely not be attending any sort of event or random gaming night ever, or at least until they find a cure for some of my mental problems, the most prominent of which is one they don't even know the cause of and which may not be curable in my lifetime. The custom fluff is the only way I can stand thinking about my army's fluff, since I prefer to play good guys. I got into 40k years before knowing much about the lore at all.

 Jancoran wrote:

Dman137 wrote:


it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing

Ironically, the fun tournaments would enjoy it very much if players who feel this way would just stop showing up to their events and then complaining about it later on Dakkadakka.

I wonder why Hard mode players insist on going to tournaments they will only complain about later.

Easier to win best general or what ever prize there is for being top 8.

 Pouncey wrote:

Would I get high or low points for my army's fiction if I show up with... simply put, furries, in my 40k army

Do you have any pictures of your army? It sounds quite amusing.

 Pouncey wrote:
combined with custom fluff that makes my Sisters of Battle not be aggressively xenocidal and religiously intolerant?

Are they anything like these?

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Reasonable_Marines

Makumba wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Dman137 wrote:


it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing

Ironically, the fun tournaments would enjoy it very much if players who feel this way would just stop showing up to their events and then complaining about it later on Dakkadakka.

I wonder why Hard mode players insist on going to tournaments they will only complain about later.

Easier to win best general or what ever prize there is for being top 8.

there's no such thing as a non competitive tournement, if you go to a event and you can come in first and there's prizes and what not then it's a competitive event and if you don't like those people that show up with strong armies and win well then that's just to bad for you. It's a event and some people have fun wining. All the crying that comes during the event and after from all those "I refuse to change my style of play because reasons" well then that to bad for them. If you don't like competitive play then just stay home or play at your local store, there's no point in those people coming to events if there just going to complain about it the whole time

Dman137 wrote:

Makumba wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Dman137 wrote:


it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing

Ironically, the fun tournaments would enjoy it very much if players who feel this way would just stop showing up to their events and then complaining about it later on Dakkadakka.

I wonder why Hard mode players insist on going to tournaments they will only complain about later.

Easier to win best general or what ever prize there is for being top 8.

there's no such thing as a non competitive tournement, if you go to a event and you can come in first and there's prizes and what not then it's a competitive event and if you don't like those people that show up with strong armies and win well then that's just to bad for you. It's a event and some people have fun wining. All the crying that comes during the event and after from all those "I refuse to change my style of play because reasons" well then that to bad for them. If you don't like competitive play then just stay home or play at your local store, there's no point in those people coming to events if there just going to complain about it the whole time

Dman,a re you sure this is an actual problem? You seem to be the only one "crying" here. Also, I'm going to reiterate, I doubt these "scrubs" are having a problem with your list....

I don't know, I think Dman does have a slight point. I've been involved in a few esports and 40k tournaments back in earlier editions.

There have always been people that show up with subpar lists and complain that they can't compete, and that other players are ruining their fun.

I think a good example of this is SSB. Last time I went to a SSB4 tournament, I picked a good character but not top tier (metaknight and megaman). A lot of my friends picked worse characters, like DK or Bowser...one even picked Ganon.

I lost in the semi-finals to a shiek player, and most of the semi-finals was Rosalina, Diddy, and Shiek. There was me and one other person playing Mario that were different. A lot of my friends got knocked out by round 2 and were really upset that they lost to a Diddy or shiek, which I couldn't understand. Those are the best characters in the game after all.

I could have picked Rosalina and done better most likely, but I wanted to practice with metaknight against better players so intentionally picked a worse character. I was fine with the results, and if I had won would have been honestly shocked. The top tier characters do really well against metaknight (it's why he's not top tier even though he's amazing).


In 40k, I've seen similar things happen. People pick necrons but not take a good list and get upset when someone shows up with Space wolves spamming ML's and rhinos (5th). Or people being upset when 1/3rd of the entries are Rhino Rushing BA or SC spamming Eldar (3rd). I can't blame people who play those armies, they are the best, and in a game like 40k top tier lists tend to beat weaker lists pretty handily, but that doesn't stop people from getting upset and trying to create soft scores to bring them down a peg.

This would be better if 40k was more balanced. In WMH you get a more diverse list of factions, although caster and unit balance is starting to suffer, but in 40k certain factions just can't compete at top tables. If it bothers you...don't attend the top tables. I stopped going to tournaments since 6th dropped because I didn't like the allies table and knew it would be everywhere, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, even though my local scene isn't very diverse as far as factions are concerned.

the adepticon friendly is a great, not to comp tournament, prolly the best tournament that I have ever been to, along with some of the funniest games I have ever played with a couple of wacky rules. Also lots of drinking.

Akiasura wrote:
I don't know, I think Dman does have a slight point. I've been involved in a few esports and 40k tournaments back in earlier editions.

There have always been people that show up with subpar lists and complain that they can't compete, and that other players are ruining their fun.

I think a good example of this is SSB. Last time I went to a SSB4 tournament, I picked a good character but not top tier (metaknight and megaman). A lot of my friends picked worse characters, like DK or Bowser...one even picked Ganon.

I lost in the semi-finals to a shiek player, and most of the semi-finals was Rosalina, Diddy, and Shiek. There was me and one other person playing Mario that were different. A lot of my friends got knocked out by round 2 and were really upset that they lost to a Diddy or shiek, which I couldn't understand. Those are the best characters in the game after all.

I could have picked Rosalina and done better most likely, but I wanted to practice with metaknight against better players so intentionally picked a worse character. I was fine with the results, and if I had won would have been honestly shocked. The top tier characters do really well against metaknight (it's why he's not top tier even though he's amazing).

What's this? A Smash 4 tournament and no one moaning over Zero Skill Spamus?! Or is she no longer the top dog?

The only thing I personally hate about Smash 4 is how horrible it is trying to get one's hands on so many of the various Amiibo characters! And now we're getting Cloud Strife as dlc (and future amiibo?)
Truly these are the End Times...

Akiasura wrote:
In 40k, I've seen similar things happen. People pick necrons but not take a good list and get upset when someone shows up with Space wolves spamming ML's and rhinos (5th). Or people being upset when 1/3rd of the entries are Rhino Rushing BA or SC spamming Eldar (3rd). I can't blame people who play those armies, they are the best, and in a game like 40k top tier lists tend to beat weaker lists pretty handily, but that doesn't stop people from getting upset and trying to create soft scores to bring them down a peg.

This would be better if 40k was more balanced. In WMH you get a more diverse list of factions, although caster and unit balance is starting to suffer, but in 40k certain factions just can't compete at top tables. If it bothers you...don't attend the top tables. I stopped going to tournaments since 6th dropped because I didn't like the allies table and knew it would be everywhere, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, even though my local scene isn't very diverse as far as factions are concerned.

The bigger problem I think is the elitist hypocrisy coming from those like Dman...

In one breath he's going on and on that us lowly scrubs should have our own events so that the big boys like him can properly strut their stuff and prove their pro level skillz. Then he turns around and puts forth claims that any event in which there's any type of prize support is by definition automatically competitive and therefore anyone not showing up to play to win should stay home so their feelings don't hurt.
So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Astronomi-con is a prime example of a decidedly non-competitive tournament. It offers awards that recognise every aspect of the hobby in general, with only 2 of 8 awards based off of, or in part, actual game results. (General & Overall)
The other 6 awards are all about those supposedly "soft" or "scrub" scores, including 3 painting/converting awards (Best Appearance, Army & Single Model), Terrain, Army List and the single most important award of all, Sportsmanship.

And yet, here we have Dman, claiming that us non-competitive plebs need our own events, and then throwing out gak about how such an event (Astro) is crap and how he hopes that it financially fails and won't be run in the new year.

Experiment 626 wrote:

Akiasura wrote:
In 40k, I've seen similar things happen. People pick necrons but not take a good list and get upset when someone shows up with Space wolves spamming ML's and rhinos (5th). Or people being upset when 1/3rd of the entries are Rhino Rushing BA or SC spamming Eldar (3rd). I can't blame people who play those armies, they are the best, and in a game like 40k top tier lists tend to beat weaker lists pretty handily, but that doesn't stop people from getting upset and trying to create soft scores to bring them down a peg.

This would be better if 40k was more balanced. In WMH you get a more diverse list of factions, although caster and unit balance is starting to suffer, but in 40k certain factions just can't compete at top tables. If it bothers you...don't attend the top tables. I stopped going to tournaments since 6th dropped because I didn't like the allies table and knew it would be everywhere, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, even though my local scene isn't very diverse as far as factions are concerned.

The bigger problem I think is the elitist hypocrisy coming from those like Dman...

In one breath he's going on and on that us lowly scrubs should have our own events so that the big boys like him can properly strut their stuff and prove their pro level skillz. Then he turns around and puts forth claims that any event in which there's any type of prize support is by definition automatically competitive and therefore anyone not showing up to play to win should stay home so their feelings don't hurt.
So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Astronomi-con is a prime example of a decidedly non-competitive tournament. It offers awards that recognise every aspect of the hobby in general, with only 2 of 8 awards based off of, or in part, actual game results. (General & Overall)
The other 6 awards are all about those supposedly "soft" or "scrub" scores, including 3 painting/converting awards (Best Appearance, Army & Single Model), Terrain, Army List and the single most important award of all, Sportsmanship.

And yet, here we have Dman, claiming that us non-competitive plebs need our own events, and then throwing out gak about how such an event (Astro) is crap and how he hopes that it financially fails and won't be run in the new year.

Exalted you can't have it both ways. You can't say that scrubs need there own events and then say that any event where you can win is a competitive event and therefore scrubs need not go. Must be tough up on his Eldar pedestal

Experiment 626 wrote:

Akiasura wrote:
I don't know, I think Dman does have a slight point. I've been involved in a few esports and 40k tournaments back in earlier editions.

There have always been people that show up with subpar lists and complain that they can't compete, and that other players are ruining their fun.

I think a good example of this is SSB. Last time I went to a SSB4 tournament, I picked a good character but not top tier (metaknight and megaman). A lot of my friends picked worse characters, like DK or Bowser...one even picked Ganon.

I lost in the semi-finals to a shiek player, and most of the semi-finals was Rosalina, Diddy, and Shiek. There was me and one other person playing Mario that were different. A lot of my friends got knocked out by round 2 and were really upset that they lost to a Diddy or shiek, which I couldn't understand. Those are the best characters in the game after all.

I could have picked Rosalina and done better most likely, but I wanted to practice with metaknight against better players so intentionally picked a worse character. I was fine with the results, and if I had won would have been honestly shocked. The top tier characters do really well against metaknight (it's why he's not top tier even though he's amazing).

What's this? A Smash 4 tournament and no one moaning over Zero Skill Spamus?! Or is she no longer the top dog?

Zero suit is a good character to start with, because she's hard to punish and combos well. She's effectively a noob stomper, while the other top tier characters require training to get something of value out of.
Against players that know how to punish on block, grab, or approach well, she lacks options since her grab is terrible and her kill moves aren't great.
She was never top tier. Shiek, Diddy, Rosa have been the top dogs since release, though their order has changed. For a while it was Rosa/Diddy, then Diddy, now Shiek.

Zero suit is high tier, about as good as metaknight or megaman. Metaknight actually destroys her, since he can kill her on block and has higher priority on his best moves, and is very difficult to kill for her.

Experiment 626 wrote:

The only thing I personally hate about Smash 4 is how horrible it is trying to get one's hands on so many of the various Amiibo characters! And now we're getting Cloud Strife as dlc (and future amiibo?)
Truly these are the End Times...

Yeah, I don't own any amiibos, so its not a big deal for me. For me the worst thing is the online play, which is extremely laggy for some reason. I can't play my favorite characters since they require good timing. For online play, Sonic might be the best character in the game.
And FF7 is one of my least favorite FF games (though not as bad as 13...) so I can't say I'm excited for it.
I am loving the DLC characters though. Mewtwo wasn't that great and neither is lucas, but Ryu and Roy are both very viable. Ryu is proving to be quite a challenge to play.

Experiment 626 wrote:

Akiasura wrote:
In 40k, I've seen similar things happen. People pick necrons but not take a good list and get upset when someone shows up with Space wolves spamming ML's and rhinos (5th). Or people being upset when 1/3rd of the entries are Rhino Rushing BA or SC spamming Eldar (3rd). I can't blame people who play those armies, they are the best, and in a game like 40k top tier lists tend to beat weaker lists pretty handily, but that doesn't stop people from getting upset and trying to create soft scores to bring them down a peg.

This would be better if 40k was more balanced. In WMH you get a more diverse list of factions, although caster and unit balance is starting to suffer, but in 40k certain factions just can't compete at top tables. If it bothers you...don't attend the top tables. I stopped going to tournaments since 6th dropped because I didn't like the allies table and knew it would be everywhere, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, even though my local scene isn't very diverse as far as factions are concerned.

The bigger problem I think is the elitist hypocrisy coming from those like Dman...

In one breath he's going on and on that us lowly scrubs should have our own events so that the big boys like him can properly strut their stuff and prove their pro level skillz. Then he turns around and puts forth claims that any event in which there's any type of prize support is by definition automatically competitive and therefore anyone not showing up to play to win should stay home so their feelings don't hurt.
So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Astronomi-con is a prime example of a decidedly non-competitive tournament. It offers awards that recognise every aspect of the hobby in general, with only 2 of 8 awards based off of, or in part, actual game results. (General & Overall)
The other 6 awards are all about those supposedly "soft" or "scrub" scores, including 3 painting/converting awards (Best Appearance, Army & Single Model), Terrain, Army List and the single most important award of all, Sportsmanship.

And yet, here we have Dman, claiming that us non-competitive plebs need our own events, and then throwing out gak about how such an event (Astro) is crap and how he hopes that it financially fails and won't be run in the new year.

It is hard to separate the events without implementing soft scores that are very swingy depending on who you end up paired with. Imagine if you are a nice guy, but you go up against Dman and you refuse to buy him a beer. He marks you down with a zero across the board and suddenly you are out of winning any prizes through no fault of your own.
You could take a "last stand" guardian spam eldar army that isn't strong, but someone marks it down as cheap because hey, Eldar.

Non-competitive events are actually a lot more work to run than competitive events, imo. I'm not a TO though, so its just a guess. I know my narrative games are a lot more work than even a regular 40k game, despite being 15 models per side max.

Yet another thread of dboy stating there are worldwide 40k problems that are only his problems because he probably got stomped by a fluffy list with his scatter kids list he loves to bring and is super.. Super upset. Cause, ya know, fluffy beat him.

If Astro wanted it to not be a competitive event and not have Op armys show up then they would get rid of the best general prize, also the awards for best terrain and best single mini has nothing to do with your overall score. The only painting score that reflects onto your overall score is the score the judges give you and as we have seen in many years of Astro they don't no how to judge painting, example this year they game a army that was primed and half of it was still just plastic a higher painting score then a army that was fully painted. Also if it's a even for those who don't like tournements then why do they have the "would you play this army again" score, it's a pretty pointless score since its scored based on emotion same goes for sports, you could be the nicest person to play but your opponent can just give you a 1 or a zero if they feel like it

 vipoid wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

Would I get high or low points for my army's fiction if I show up with... simply put, furries, in my 40k army

Do you have any pictures of your army? It sounds quite amusing.

Some, yes.

No Sisters yet, because I don't have a dremel and I'm not comfortable with power tools.

http://i.imgur.com/vz481VT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KoLusjJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JDvvvgf.png

The above is a Draenei, not a furry. She has a Skink's tail on the reverse side. I had better horns, but I broke them.

http://i.imgur.com/sto09To.png

Priestesses above, might swap their weapons.

http://i.imgur.com/T2b27qj.png

http://i.imgur.com/IA1TBT9.jpg

The above one now has a second dude on his base.

http://i.imgur.com/Q9cjstH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tJgtvao.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hrnyni5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YC2aNaS.jpg

The above one now has a head that's not a 90 degree angle at the back due to the clippers being turned the wrong way when severing head from body.

http://i.imgur.com/MLGXUWP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xPvIv7j.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/F76SnYe.jpg

Tanks above! : D

http://i.imgur.com/Ciw7Gkn.jpg

My not-Celestine.

http://i.imgur.com/Bc8Bjp4.jpg

I ran out of heads for this one...

http://i.imgur.com/xu7cadT.gif

Not a model, some artwork a friend did of my RP character with Sororitas armor and 40k weapons, which I colored. : D

 Pouncey wrote:
combined with custom fluff that makes my Sisters of Battle not be aggressively xenocidal and religiously intolerant?

Are they anything like these?

https://1d4chan.org/wiki/Reasonable_Marines

Maybe?

Mine aren't quite so loyal to the Imperium...

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
Yet another thread of dboy stating there are worldwide 40k problems that are only his problems because he probably got stomped by a fluffy list with his scatter kids list he loves to bring and is super.. Super upset. Cause, ya know, fluffy beat him.

never lost to a fluff army, because I play against real list and not these are my special snowflake marines lol and hey if people want to bring poor army's to events I have no problem crushing your army of that's what you want


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But like I've said before, next years Astro if my opponent doesn't get me a beer I'm giving them a zero for sports lol it's only fair

I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

 Pouncey wrote:


Some, yes.

No Sisters yet, because I don't have a dremel and I'm not comfortable with power tools.

http://i.imgur.com/vz481VT.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/KoLusjJ.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/JDvvvgf.png

The above is a Draenei, not a furry. She has a Skink's tail on the reverse side. I had better horns, but I broke them.

http://i.imgur.com/sto09To.png

Priestesses above, might swap their weapons.

http://i.imgur.com/T2b27qj.png

http://i.imgur.com/IA1TBT9.jpg

The above one now has a second dude on his base.

http://i.imgur.com/Q9cjstH.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/tJgtvao.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/hrnyni5.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/YC2aNaS.jpg

The above one now has a head that's not a 90 degree angle at the back due to the clippers being turned the wrong way when severing head from body.

http://i.imgur.com/MLGXUWP.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/xPvIv7j.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/F76SnYe.jpg

Tanks above! : D

http://i.imgur.com/Ciw7Gkn.jpg

My not-Celestine.

http://i.imgur.com/Bc8Bjp4.jpg

I ran out of heads for this one...

http://i.imgur.com/xu7cadT.gif

Not a model, some artwork a friend did of my RP character with Sororitas armor and 40k weapons, which I colored. : D

Hah, those look great. You've done the head-swaps very well - they really fit the pose of the models. Nice work.

Thanks for sharing

 Pouncey wrote:

Mine aren't quite so loyal to the Imperium...

My Xeno armies approve.

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

Self awareness is lacking here in the OP.

Take your own inventory as a hobbyist, gamer, and person in general. You might find that you are more socially problematic to these events than the people you're complaining about.

The world is a better place without snobbery and people looking down their nose at others, acting like they can tell them what they should or shouldn't do based on their own personal feelings.

We get it man. You think you're the best 40k player ever and everyone should aspire to only play cheesy net lists like you or GTFO. I just don't think anyone cares enough about your opinion to even consider changing their behaviour.

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

yeah I am going to LVO, I'm surprised you even no what that is

I wish I could go to the LVO but just can't afford to this year, maybe next year(maybe with my nids if their codex doesn't suck)


I am all for having events tailored to both player bases, It sucks when the two mix and both sides are miserable. when the store where I lived ran tournaments they had friendly tournaments with minimal prizes and more competitive events with better prizes.

AncientSkarbrand wrote:
Self awareness is lacking here in the OP.

Take your own inventory as a hobbyist, gamer, and person in general. You might find that you are more socially problematic to these events than the people you're complaining about.

The world is a better place without snobbery and people looking down their nose at others, acting like they can tell them what they should or shouldn't do based on their own personal feelings.

We get it man. You think you're the best 40k player ever and everyone should aspire to only play cheesy net lists like you or GTFO. I just don't think anyone cares enough about your opinion to even consider changing their behaviour.

no one cares because most of these people live under a rock with there special snowflake army and the moment anyone tells them that they should change there mentality they get all defensive because they refuse to better themselves and just keep going on with their defeatist attitude


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 TheAvengingKnee wrote:
I wish I could go to the LVO but just can't afford to this year, maybe next year(maybe with my nids if their codex doesn't suck)

apparently nids and gaurd are the next update, so I'm sure good things will come there way

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

 TheNewBlood wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

Dman137 wrote:
oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

Considering that you only joined the forum in this year, I could make much the same accusation about you.

 vipoid wrote:
Hah, those look great. You've done the head-swaps very well - they really fit the pose of the models. Nice work.

Thanks for sharing

You're welcome. : D

I'm glad you approve. One time I posted furry 40k stuff in this forum, I received death threats from the thread creator.

It only happened that once, fortunately. And everyone else was on my side.

Oh, for the reptilian Cadians, I also had to make necks for them. Instead of Green Stuff, I used a small section of the Skink's calf.

 Pouncey wrote:

Mine aren't quite so loyal to the Imperium...

My Xeno armies approve.

I like elves, so I have a soft spot for Eldar in particular. : D

But yes, the Reasonable Marines sound damned awesome to me, and if my custom armies ever find out about them, they'll probably try to find out where the Reasonable Marines' planets are in the hopes of becoming a protectorate or something. Hopefully the Reasonable Marines won't mind the plethora of local minor xenos species. They're friendly. The biggest internal problems have been from Sororitas who resisted the mind-altering technology that made most of their tiny force, and proceeded to sabotage some critical facilities in a very dramatic and lethal fashion. For example, a lot of the "good girl" Sororitas died when one they thought was their own walked into the armory with a fuel-air grenade while they were still getting their armor on to react to the vortex grenades going off nearby.

What about to stop this kindergarden of personal insulting each other?

@Dman137

Uh, every dakka user's comments are worth something, with the possible exception of you, as you're demonstrating some immature and frankly not very useful comments for the community.

I've only been playing for two years. I believe my comments can still be useful to someone. Who are you helping? What are you contributing?

Nobody cares to change their behaviour not because of a problem they have. It's because of a problem you have with communication and getting along with others.

Dman137 wrote:

 TheNewBlood wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

I've been playing WH40k since 2001. I'm still almost totally clueless about proper strategy.

 Pouncey wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

 TheNewBlood wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

I've been playing WH40k since 2001. I'm still almost totally clueless about proper strategy.

that's very sad to hear