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Dman137 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

 TheNewBlood wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

I've been playing WH40k since 2001. I'm still almost totally clueless about proper strategy.

that's very sad to hear

Thanks! : D

In part, it's because I value looks as much as I do power. So I end up using a bunch of models I really like for looks or sentimental reasons, even though their loadout is terrible. I pretty much always include Banshees in my Eldar armies, purely because they're female. I like playing female characters in pretty much any game I've played, for more than the past decade. So I will always use Banshees when I field Eldar, even though my brain keeps screaming at me that my mom only plays Orks and Striking Scorpions would be WAY better. Now if GW made female Striking Scorpions, that wouldn't be a problem, would it, brain? I used to field a ton of Space Marine HQs with power swords (not all at once, mind you) because the friend whose RP character I modeled the minis on, strongly prefers swords aesthetically, and pretty much any art of his character with a weapon, will have a sword. Often I find myself wishing power weapons were just power weapons, without all the different types. Especially since I face Orks a hell of a lot and power maul bitz are tough to come by on GW sprues.

I still have that powergaming part of my brain though, which is why I field things like Battle Conclaves with lots of Arco-Flagellants. Or rather, I would, if my Battle Conclaves weren't being shot to ribbons on turn 1 in every game because the first time I used one, it took apart a large unit of Honor Guard and a Chapter Master in one round of melee, before most of them got any chance to attack. It had lots of Death-Cult Assassins then, because Space Marines. Duh. Also it was 5th, so power weapons just ignored armor saves. :: more grumbling ::

Anyways, I also play an MMORPG where each class prefers a certain type of armor, and gets bonus stats if all the armor a character has equipped is from the type of armor the class prefers. I typically replace one or two of my armor pieces with stuff from less-sturdy types of armor (i.e. cloth instead of mail) to make my character look nicer. And it's not just those bonus stats I give up, not all armor comes with the right primary stats for every class in the game, so instead of not gaining 5%, I actually end up losing 10-20% of that primary stat.

 Pouncey wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

 TheNewBlood wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

I've been playing WH40k since 2001. I'm still almost totally clueless about proper strategy.

that's very sad to hear

Thanks! : D

In part, it's because I value looks as much as I do power. So I end up using a bunch of models I really like for looks or sentimental reasons, even though their loadout is terrible. I pretty much always include Banshees in my Eldar armies, purely because they're female. I like playing female characters in pretty much any game I've played, for more than the past decade. So I will always use Banshees when I field Eldar, even though my brain keeps screaming at me that my mom only plays Orks and Striking Scorpions would be WAY better. Now if GW made female Striking Scorpions, that wouldn't be a problem, would it, brain? I used to field a ton of Space Marine HQs with power swords (not all at once, mind you) because the friend whose RP character I modeled the minis on, strongly prefers swords aesthetically, and pretty much any art of his character with a weapon, will have a sword. Often I find myself wishing power weapons were just power weapons, without all the different types. Especially since I face Orks a hell of a lot and power maul bitz are tough to come by on GW sprues.

I still have that powergaming part of my brain though, which is why I field things like Battle Conclaves with lots of Arco-Flagellants. Or rather, I would, if my Battle Conclaves weren't being shot to ribbons on turn 1 in every game because the first time I used one, it took apart a large unit of Honor Guard and a Chapter Master in one round of melee, before most of them got any chance to attack. It had lots of Death-Cult Assassins then, because Space Marines. Duh. Also it was 5th, so power weapons just ignored armor saves. :: more grumbling ::

Anyways, I also play an MMORPG where each class prefers a certain type of armor, and gets bonus stats if all the armor a character has equipped is from the type of armor the class prefers. I typically replace one or two of my armor pieces with stuff from less-sturdy types of armor (i.e. cloth instead of mail) to make my character look nicer. And it's not just those bonus stats I give up, not all armor comes with the right primary stats for every class in the game, so instead of not gaining 5%, I actually end up losing 10-20% of that primary stat.

you could always convert the scorpions to have female heads, I'm sure you can get your hands on some female heads somewhere online then you could make your whole army females

Dman137 wrote:

 Pouncey wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

 TheNewBlood wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:

Dman137 wrote:

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
I really doubt you crush anything. Honestly don't see you in first in any tourney that matters. Or top for that matter.

coming from the guy that dosent go to events at all lmao

You know this how? You going to lvo in February? Doubt it. Wouldn't make it very far dboy

Don't you know? It's not that he wouldn't win, it's that all of his opponents are cheaters!

oh look who it is mister has been playing for only 3 years but feels like his comments are worth anything lol

I've been playing WH40k since 2001. I'm still almost totally clueless about proper strategy.

that's very sad to hear

Know what's even sadder? This thread

Dlad, last time I checked, tactics weren't just taking the most broken units in the game and throwing them at enemis. That TWC list was a great tactic.

 Matthew wrote:
Dlad, last time I checked, tactics weren't just taking the most broken units in the game and throwing them at enemis. That TWC list was a great tactic.

list building is the most important thing, and if you see units that maximize your ability to win then yeah you should do that. But a lot of people think taking bad units is a good idea

Dman137 wrote:
you could always convert the scorpions to have female heads, I'm sure you can get your hands on some female heads somewhere online then you could make your whole army females

I'd also have to greenstuff on boobs. I'm terrible at sculpting.

And I'd have to dremel off the head of my metal Scorpions. I don't have a dremel and power tools terrify me. Except power drills/screwdrivers. Those I'm okay with. Power saws? Nope. Just nope. I'll keep the thing as steady as I can if I can stay at least three feet away from where the cutting is happening, someone else has to man the power saw. I look at a circular saw blade, just sitting there, and I'm already imagining it cutting through my skin and bones.

And then I'd have to find a place to get nice female elf heads. My previous searches for 28mm female heads have never proven effective.

Besides, I can just play my Sisters of Battle. : D Their armor is so cool.


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 Matthew wrote:
Dlad, last time I checked, tactics weren't just taking the most broken units in the game and throwing them at enemis. That TWC list was a great tactic.

It's weird, but in 40k, what you bring to the table is almost always more important than how you use it when determining who wins the match.

It's not surprising when you consider the fact that GW has basically stated outright that they consider the game to primarily be a tool for selling models.

In Denver there was a tournament called feast of blades, and I was told there was an open tournament that was judged not only on performance, but for fluffy armies, themed armies, paint job, sportsmanship, stuff like that. The sort of games that encouraged fun play instead of just cutting edge competitiveness.

I always thought that sounded like fun, and I heard it was a lot of fun from people who attended, but FoB died out this year and no idea if it's coming back.

Makumba wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Dman137 wrote:


it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing

Ironically, the fun tournaments would enjoy it very much if players who feel this way would just stop showing up to their events and then complaining about it later on Dakkadakka.

I wonder why Hard mode players insist on going to tournaments they will only complain about later.

Easier to win best general or what ever prize there is for being top 8.

Bingo.

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
In Denver there was a tournament called feast of blades, and I was told there was an open tournament that was judged not only on performance, but for fluffy armies, themed armies, paint job, sportsmanship, stuff like that. The sort of games that encouraged fun play instead of just cutting edge competitiveness.

I always thought that sounded like fun, and I heard it was a lot of fun from people who attended, but FoB died out this year and no idea if it's coming back.

its most likely because they lost money on the event and don't want to take the hit again, a lot of events lose money

 Kap'n Krump wrote:
In Denver there was a tournament called feast of blades, and I was told there was an open tournament that was judged not only on performance, but for fluffy armies, themed armies, paint job, sportsmanship, stuff like that. The sort of games that encouraged fun play instead of just cutting edge competitiveness.

I always thought that sounded like fun, and I heard it was a lot of fun from people who attended, but FoB died out this year and no idea if it's coming back.

I hope that's not like the time my friend got me interested about a cool "club" (club being the exact word he used) that would pay me 50 dollars to go to it for a couple hours a week.

I was skeptical, but I was also 13 and that sum was 20 times my weekly allowance.

So then I showed up, and found myself signing papers to join the Royal Canadian Air Cadets. Because that was what the so-called "club" actually was...

Later I found out that they only pay you if you attend the summer courses, and those last up to a month.

Of course, before I could earn my LAC propeller thingy, I started developing what turned out to be a moderate case of schizophrenia. So that complicated my attendance.

Fortunately the rules for being AWOL seemingly don't apply to cadets, as I have yet to be imprisoned or legally punished in any manner.

My short 7 1/2 months in the Cadets wasn't that bad though. I enjoyed it, learned some stuff. Got to ride in a glider, where I refused to touch the controls for fear of fething something up. It only got bad once the social anxiety kicked in and I started shaking like crazy without even knowing why it was happening, naturally beginning on the night we had some visiting Major inspecting us.

 Jancoran wrote:

Makumba wrote:

 Jancoran wrote:

Dman137 wrote:


it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing

Ironically, the fun tournaments would enjoy it very much if players who feel this way would just stop showing up to their events and then complaining about it later on Dakkadakka.

I wonder why Hard mode players insist on going to tournaments they will only complain about later.

Easier to win best general or what ever prize there is for being top 8.

Bingo.

Not necessarily. Just had a friendly tourney at my LGS, the two Hard Mode players both got like 14th because their sportsmanship score was crap

If were going to only bring the BEST LIST EVA it's gonna be a very boring series of mostly mirror matches. I don't really understand people who play very competitive 40k because there are far better designed games out there. What has always drawn me in to the game is the background and models. I take semi competitive lists, that are made up of decent units but I try to respect the fluff, take things that look cool, and avoid trying to bend the rules for silly advantages.

 Jancoran wrote:
Bingo.

That would make them like gankers in World of Warcraft. High level players who are actually bad at PvP, so they have their fun killing low level players who are totally helpless to fight back, and when high level players arrive to defend the lowbies, the ganker scampers off to find less threatening prey, or sometimes stealths to avoid detection and resumes killing low-level players in one hit, then immediately disappearing again and waiting for the next time their character's abilities are ready for that quick kill and re-stealth is available.

I can count the number of times that a ganker has even engaged my high level characters in combat when I arrive to help lowbies on one hand. Using no fingers. Because it's never happened.

:: grumbles more about gankers for a while ::

Experiment 626 wrote:

Akiasura wrote:
I don't know, I think Dman does have a slight point. I've been involved in a few esports and 40k tournaments back in earlier editions.

There have always been people that show up with subpar lists and complain that they can't compete, and that other players are ruining their fun.

I think a good example of this is SSB. Last time I went to a SSB4 tournament, I picked a good character but not top tier (metaknight and megaman). A lot of my friends picked worse characters, like DK or Bowser...one even picked Ganon.

I lost in the semi-finals to a shiek player, and most of the semi-finals was Rosalina, Diddy, and Shiek. There was me and one other person playing Mario that were different. A lot of my friends got knocked out by round 2 and were really upset that they lost to a Diddy or shiek, which I couldn't understand. Those are the best characters in the game after all.

I could have picked Rosalina and done better most likely, but I wanted to practice with metaknight against better players so intentionally picked a worse character. I was fine with the results, and if I had won would have been honestly shocked. The top tier characters do really well against metaknight (it's why he's not top tier even though he's amazing).

What's this? A Smash 4 tournament and no one moaning over Zero Skill Spamus?! Or is she no longer the top dog?

The only thing I personally hate about Smash 4 is how horrible it is trying to get one's hands on so many of the various Amiibo characters! And now we're getting Cloud Strife as dlc (and future amiibo?)
Truly these are the End Times...

Akiasura wrote:
In 40k, I've seen similar things happen. People pick necrons but not take a good list and get upset when someone shows up with Space wolves spamming ML's and rhinos (5th). Or people being upset when 1/3rd of the entries are Rhino Rushing BA or SC spamming Eldar (3rd). I can't blame people who play those armies, they are the best, and in a game like 40k top tier lists tend to beat weaker lists pretty handily, but that doesn't stop people from getting upset and trying to create soft scores to bring them down a peg.

This would be better if 40k was more balanced. In WMH you get a more diverse list of factions, although caster and unit balance is starting to suffer, but in 40k certain factions just can't compete at top tables. If it bothers you...don't attend the top tables. I stopped going to tournaments since 6th dropped because I didn't like the allies table and knew it would be everywhere, and I don't feel like I'm missing out on anything, even though my local scene isn't very diverse as far as factions are concerned.

The bigger problem I think is the elitist hypocrisy coming from those like Dman...

In one breath he's going on and on that us lowly scrubs should have our own events so that the big boys like him can properly strut their stuff and prove their pro level skillz. Then he turns around and puts forth claims that any event in which there's any type of prize support is by definition automatically competitive and therefore anyone not showing up to play to win should stay home so their feelings don't hurt.
So which is it? You can't have it both ways.

Astronomi-con is a prime example of a decidedly non-competitive tournament. It offers awards that recognise every aspect of the hobby in general, with only 2 of 8 awards based off of, or in part, actual game results. (General & Overall)
The other 6 awards are all about those supposedly "soft" or "scrub" scores, including 3 painting/converting awards (Best Appearance, Army & Single Model), Terrain, Army List and the single most important award of all, Sportsmanship.

And yet, here we have Dman, claiming that us non-competitive plebs need our own events, and then throwing out gak about how such an event (Astro) is crap and how he hopes that it financially fails and won't be run in the new year.

I would add the Ordo Fanaticus Club Challenge to this list of friendlier events. Don't get me wrong: there will always be people who go to them with hard mode lists because their skill simply makes it necessary to do so and they just don't get the memo about it being a friendly event. But the vast majority at that event understand that all the prizes are raffled anyways so you can go 0-5, have a great time with any list you WANT to play and still come out winning some schwag. Some of it quite expensive schwag.

As a member of the "fluff bunny" crowd I personally have no problem attending competitive events. I'm the guy that brings fortifications and hordes of guardsmen, sometimes I run transport, sometimes sentinels, just whatever strikes me as interesting.

Do I want to win? You bet I do.
But will I? Probably not.

My thing is, I never get sore over a loss as I can usually put up a good fight or tie, or hell, if the dice love me and I'm really lucky with objectives, squeak out a win every once in awhile. Even the times I get just stomped, I just enjoy showing up with unexpected lists and people seeing how folks react. The looks I get when I start laying down bunkers, trenches, emplacements, barricades, razorwire, and tank traps is worth it almost by itself

Maybe I'm glutton for punishment, but I generally get comments of "I've never played against a list like that, it was fun" and that right there is what I come for, to enjoy the game and help others enjoy it. It doesn't matter if it scat bikes, decurions, sky hammers, of hunter cadres, you better bring your space shovel cause you're gonna have to dig this guardsman out.

Dman137 wrote:

list building is the most important thing, and if you see units that maximize your ability to win then yeah you should do that. But a lot of people think taking bad units is a good idea

...or they are just more adept at the game.

I am reminded of a fairly mundane Space wolf list Tony Kopach won with. It was very literally nothing special. Looking at that list then and now I am still quite impressed with how well he played. I assure you all his tricked out opponents were equally impressed. Their lists were surely superior in several cases.

If you advocate separate tournaments for those who identify themselves as "lesser" what will you do about the people who lie to themselves about it? Lol.



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 Ir0njack wrote:
As a member of the "fluff bunny" crowd I personally have no problem attending competitive events. I'm the guy that brings fortifications and hordes of guardsmen, sometimes I run transport, sometimes sentinels, just whatever strikes me as interesting.

Do I want to win? You bet I do.
But will I? Probably not.

My thing is, I never get sore over a loss as I can usually put up a good fight or tie, or hell, if the dice love me and I'm really lucky with objectives, squeak out a win every once in awhile. Even the times I get just stomped, I just enjoy showing up with unexpected lists and people seeing how folks react. The looks I get when I start laying down bunkers, trenches, emplacements, barricades, razorwire, and tank traps is worth it almost by itself

Maybe I'm glutton for punishment, but I generally get comments of "I've never played against a list like that, it was fun" and that right there is what I come for, to enjoy the game and help others enjoy it. It doesn't matter if it scat bikes, decurions, sky hammers, of hunter cadres, you better bring your space shovel cause you're gonna have to dig this guardsman out.

Quantity has a quality all its own.

 Ir0njack wrote:
As a member of the "fluff bunny" crowd I personally have no problem attending competitive events. I'm the guy that brings fortifications and hordes of guardsmen, sometimes I run transport, sometimes sentinels, just whatever strikes me as interesting.

Do I want to win? You bet I do.
But will I? Probably not.

My thing is, I never get sore over a loss as I can usually put up a good fight or tie, or hell, if the dice love me and I'm really lucky with objectives, squeak out a win every once in awhile. Even the times I get just stomped, I just enjoy showing up with unexpected lists and people seeing how folks react. The looks I get when I start laying down bunkers, trenches, emplacements, barricades, razorwire, and tank traps is worth it almost by itself

Maybe I'm glutton for punishment, but I generally get comments of "I've never played against a list like that, it was fun" and that right there is what I come for, to enjoy the game and help others enjoy it. It doesn't matter if it scat bikes, decurions, sky hammers, of hunter cadres, you better bring your space shovel cause you're gonna have to dig this guardsman out.

As I've been getting a bit bored with my Tzeentchian legions as of late, I'm thinking that the new year might be good time to give Khorne a bit of a look...

Reason the first being that while it's missing out on Mutilators, Chosen and Dark Apostles, the Khornekin book does look like a quite interesting blend of mortals and the daemonic.
I have a decent cache of BA Death Co kits + Tac squad to mix in with Chaos Marines, and thus, I could build the army as a warband featuring the Knights of Blood successor Chapter that's fully fallen into blood rituals and the madness of endless bloodshed.
A brutal jugger-riding former Chaplain, leading the charge amongst his honour guard of mighty Bloodcrushers...
Bikers goading their hunting (Flesh) hounds into battle before them, in a sick mockery of a knightly hunting party...
Lowly peasants being sent to their deaths for the glory of the Gods...
More flamers than is healthy for any army to put on the table!

Reason the second, and most importantly, I've been watching far too much Kingdom of Heaven as of late, and Khornekin based off of a Chapter of evil space knights means that every single tactical decision can simply be boiled down to "Khorne Wills It!'

 Ir0njack wrote:
As a member of the "fluff bunny" crowd I personally have no problem attending competitive events. I'm the guy that brings fortifications and hordes of guardsmen, sometimes I run transport, sometimes sentinels, just whatever strikes me as interesting.

Do I want to win? You bet I do.
But will I? Probably not.

My thing is, I never get sore over a loss as I can usually put up a good fight or tie, or hell, if the dice love me and I'm really lucky with objectives, squeak out a win every once in awhile. Even the times I get just stomped, I just enjoy showing up with unexpected lists and people seeing how folks react. The looks I get when I start laying down bunkers, trenches, emplacements, barricades, razorwire, and tank traps is worth it almost by itself

Maybe I'm glutton for punishment, but I generally get comments of "I've never played against a list like that, it was fun" and that right there is what I come for, to enjoy the game and help others enjoy it. It doesn't matter if it scat bikes, decurions, sky hammers, of hunter cadres, you better bring your space shovel cause you're gonna have to dig this guardsman out.

See, this is the kinda attitude the game should be about. Just enjoying what you have and making a good game for everybody. From what I see in most of this thread, that's how most people actually feel. It's only a few people with a "holier than thou" attitude that really disagree.

At some point, we all have to come to terms with the fact that this is a game of little plastic space men. It's not something worth getting so worked up over.

Make a big campaign where the Tournament Organizer posts the list you can take. If they get to make you choose mediocre fluffy lists then you can play bored hammer 40k.

Hey one time I literally posted up on the local forum and let everyone choose what force I would play, then I had them all send me 1500 point lists and I had to choose one of them, completely unchanged, to play.

I won that tournament. That was pretty darn cool.

A couple of my friends who don't like the competitive scene found a willing person in me for a new brand of silliness: instead of bringing lists, we rolled randomly using our Dungeons and Dragons dice to determine which units from each force org slot we would be allowed to use. Had to roll twice for every slot. whatever we got, we got.

Quite fun.

So while I play in tournaments quite a lot, I think its important to remember why you really play, yes?

 Filch wrote:
Make a big campaign where the Tournament Organizer posts the list you can take. If they get to make you choose mediocre fluffy lists then you can play bored hammer 40k.

That would be great for the store: "here's the lists you have to take, which conveniently include all of the models we're having trouble selling".

Dman137 wrote:
So with this year coming to a close there have been some great events I got to go to, tho after every event it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing. With that said I think there should be events for more non competitive players so that they play people more at there skill level, it would be a lot more fun for them. And as a competitive player I hate playing against "fluff lists" while sure I don't mind the win, I much rather play against a hard army I find that more enjoyable. Do you guys feel like there should be a split

Finally someone who gets it. I mean, I am tired of all these unskilled players coming to events with "flully" lists, i.e. they are too poor to skillfully purchase 5 imperial knights. On top of that, they do not realize my genius when I move my knights 12" directly towards their line, firing my double-shot battle cannons, hellstorm flamers, and large blast melta shots with incredible - nay, beyond credulity - strategic brilliance. Then, they actually become visibly disturbed when I cackle maniacally as any rational person would when their pitiful twin-linked lascannons mounted on a fail-raider utterly fails to penetrate my Knights' 4++ shield that I tactically nominated with impeccable foresight on the facing closes to their joke-raider. I mean, they should be kissing my feet when I show them the error of their ways and the obvious - well, at least to a player of my caliber - limitations in their noob list building. Duh, of course they can't win against my (insert flavor of the month internet list) that I totally, skillfully, divinely read about on an online forum, then rushed out to purchase. Then they actually cried when they lost to me? I mean, they should be grateful that they had the opportunity - nay, privilege - to roll dice on a table shared by me, the greatest strategic mind of the current - and, indeed, any - generation.

If you insist on attending open events, then you'll have the "problem" of having to play people who aren't doing things the way you like. Perhaps you should see about organising some sort of invitational event. Be proactive instead of simply complaining here where nothing can be done about it.

 Grumblewartz wrote:
I am tired of all these unskilled players coming to events with "flully" lists, i.e. they are too poor to skillfully purchase 5 imperial knights. Duh, of course they can't win against my (insert flavor of the month internet list) that I totally, skillfully, divinely read about on an online forum, then rushed out to purchase.

Sarcasm aside I guess this is a very big reason people play "competitive" WH40K when there are better game systems out there. If you are comfortable dropping 500€+ on the latest cheese there's no need to improve your generalship, just set up the big guns and crush the noobs that still try to use starter armies. And if your opponent is also foolish enough to use an older army that doesn't get OP Formation bonuses he totally deserves what's about to happen.

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I went to a more casual event run by the good folks at Warhammer World about a month ago, a "participation" game where players joined their armies together to fight against waves of Tyranids controlled by a member of staff.

I was the only person to turn up. Warhammer World is in the centre of Nottingham, a fairly busy city, and it was half-term so the kids were off from school. Conditions were good for atleast a FEW people to turn up, but it didn't get enough attention for whatever reason. Take from that what you will.

CaoCaoTipper wrote:
I went to a more casual event run by the good folks at Warhammer World about a month ago, a "participation" game where players joined their armies together to fight against waves of Tyranids controlled by a member of staff.

Kinda wish I lived nearer Nottingham, because that sounds like a lot of fun.#

CaoCaoTipper wrote:
I was the only person to turn up.

Sounds like a win for the nids.

Out of interest though, what did happen? Did they play the game with just you there?

 vipoid wrote:

CaoCaoTipper wrote:
I went to a more casual event run by the good folks at Warhammer World about a month ago, a "participation" game where players joined their armies together to fight against waves of Tyranids controlled by a member of staff.

Kinda wish I lived nearer Nottingham, because that sounds like a lot of fun.#

CaoCaoTipper wrote:
I was the only person to turn up.

Sounds like a win for the nids.

Out of interest though, what did happen? Did they play the game with just you there?

I won, I'll have you know! I don't think he was expecting my Khorne Demonkin to leap the barricades I was deployed behind and charge the Tyranids before they could come near. Best form of defence, heh.

The staff guy was super awesome, I was (and still am) quite a scrub so he turned it into somthing of a tutorial game to teach me a few things. The time in his work schedule was taken to do the game I guess, so he just played with me.

 Grumblewartz wrote:

Dman137 wrote:
So with this year coming to a close there have been some great events I got to go to, tho after every event it became clear that a lot of players there weren't very competitive and would complain about the competive players which I think is very unfair since a tournement is a competitive thing. With that said I think there should be events for more non competitive players so that they play people more at there skill level, it would be a lot more fun for them. And as a competitive player I hate playing against "fluff lists" while sure I don't mind the win, I much rather play against a hard army I find that more enjoyable. Do you guys feel like there should be a split

Finally someone who gets it. I mean, I am tired of all these unskilled players coming to events with "flully" lists, i.e. they are too poor to skillfully purchase 5 imperial knights. On top of that, they do not realize my genius when I move my knights 12" directly towards their line, firing my double-shot battle cannons, hellstorm flamers, and large blast melta shots with incredible - nay, beyond credulity - strategic brilliance. Then, they actually become visibly disturbed when I cackle maniacally as any rational person would when their pitiful twin-linked lascannons mounted on a fail-raider utterly fails to penetrate my Knights' 4++ shield that I tactically nominated with impeccable foresight on the facing closes to their joke-raider. I mean, they should be kissing my feet when I show them the error of their ways and the obvious - well, at least to a player of my caliber - limitations in their noob list building. Duh, of course they can't win against my (insert flavor of the month internet list) that I totally, skillfully, divinely read about on an online forum, then rushed out to purchase. Then they actually cried when they lost to me? I mean, they should be grateful that they had the opportunity - nay, privilege - to roll dice on a table shared by me, the greatest strategic mind of the current - and, indeed, any - generation.

Awesome. Lol.

@Grumblewartz: That is mighty fine parody.
Almost Doomthumbs caliber.
If not, I shall avert my eyes and back away slowly.