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Hello, as the title says, I am currently debating whether it is a good time to get back into the hobby. I never sold any of my things, except about 2k points of ultramarines to a mate, and have a missus that is interested in the painting and possibly gaming aspect of the hobby,she hasn't played any games yet and wants to start a daemon army right off the bat, so when we get funds we can do that, but back on topic, is now a good time to start playing again, i do miss the hobby but it was the price hikes from fourth, to fifth, to sixth that eventually drove me off. Now with a little one and a little bit of spare time, is it worth getting back into again? I am considering doing orks, since I have about 120 slugga boys unpainted in a case or two, as well as some lootas and nobs. My old DE are a bit finisky to handle at this point and want more of a blunt force, somethign that i thought Orks might be able to do quite well, better than my little DKOK army and nids (whom /ii primarily run nidzilla with anyway).

Thank you for your time in reading my ramblings, and thank you for your imput if you decide to give any

Depends. I would check to see how big it is your local area/store, that's usually the biggest factor. Second, price has only gone up, but with used models on eBay and what it sounds like you already have, that shouldn't be as big as a deterrent.

The third biggest problem will be adjusting to the rules. There is a huge disparity right now between power levels of armies, with some being weak and some outright broken (Eldar).

That said, it's still a blast to play. So I'd try and find a store that plays 40k, watch a couple games, talk to people, then decide if you want to jump in.

 jreilly89 wrote:
Depends. I would check to see how big it is your local area/store, that's usually the biggest factor. Second, price has only gone up, but with used models on eBay and what it sounds like you already have, that shouldn't be as big as a deterrent.

The third biggest problem will be adjusting to the rules. There is a huge disparity right now between power levels of armies, with some being weak and some outright broken (Eldar).

That said, it's still a blast to play. So I'd try and find a store that plays 40k, watch a couple games, talk to people, then decide if you want to jump in.

Thanks for the advice, i did keep up with the rules, for the most part, other than the FAQs and such, and even have the sixth ed rule book, but the joy of the hardcover codexes was quickly overshadowed by the 80+AUD price tag and the fact that i heard the eldar one got changed six months afterwards (not sure if true or not). i got the rulebook on release and don't remember when the last time i played it was, a couple of mates used to play, but i dont see them as often as i would like, and not many people i know go to the local gw any more. and since i dont know how effective my vampire counts army is i might just stic to the 40k. maybe satrt slowly, and finish the ever looming 600 model paint job, curse my love for horde armies and finicky dark eldar vehicles!

First off cool to hear your other half is interested that can always be nice just talking to them about ideas and having games.

But I find if you really like this hobby you never really stop. I myself have just come back after a few years of absence from warhammer and I'm loving it. It depends a little on what you want for the hobby, whether it be meeting new people and playing games or painting and converting a awesome looking army or something to use as a bit of an escape from mundane daily routine. I myself use it as an excuse to make cool as looking armies and make up special mission for a few friends but i find my LGC isn't what i'm looking for so unfortunately i don't get as many games in as I'd like also due to friends being very busy with their education/careers.

The prices are still way up so if you are wanting to get cool new minis then 2nd hand is the way to go but if you have the cash then why not treat yourself. as for rules and current meta I'm less knowledgeable on but it seems to be not too bad competitively you see a lot of the same but friendly games see a huge amount of variance. I'm unsure as to when the next rule book will be out as the current 7th ED has been out a few years now and I'm dreading the day i have to go in and but the new $150 dollar book...

So really it's what do you want to do, you said you left cos the prices were ramped all the way up and if that's all you're going on then its still expensive but there are ways around that. but if the question is "is it a good time to get back into it?" now is as good as any other time hope this helped.

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:

 jreilly89 wrote:
Depends. I would check to see how big it is your local area/store, that's usually the biggest factor. Second, price has only gone up, but with used models on eBay and what it sounds like you already have, that shouldn't be as big as a deterrent.

The third biggest problem will be adjusting to the rules. There is a huge disparity right now between power levels of armies, with some being weak and some outright broken (Eldar).

That said, it's still a blast to play. So I'd try and find a store that plays 40k, watch a couple games, talk to people, then decide if you want to jump in.

Thanks for the advice, i did keep up with the rules, for the most part, other than the FAQs and such, and even have the sixth ed rule book, but the joy of the hardcover codexes was quickly overshadowed by the 80+AUD price tag and the fact that i heard the eldar one got changed six months afterwards (not sure if true or not). i got the rulebook on release and don't remember when the last time i played it was, a couple of mates used to play, but i dont see them as often as i would like, and not many people i know go to the local gw any more. and since i dont know how effective my vampire counts army is i might just stic to the 40k. maybe satrt slowly, and finish the ever looming 600 model paint job, curse my love for horde armies and finicky dark eldar vehicles!

Touche lol yeah, WHFB has been erased and replaced with the new free to play AoS rules. It's....fine lol just different. Really making sure you have a big 40k crowd is the defining vote on whether or not you should get back in.

Well if you left because of price hikes, you will be shocked to see what stuff costs now.

When ever something new is released the prices increase big time. So if money was your reason for leaving, I guess it will keep you from coming back.

It has NOT GOT CHEAPER

 vorrax-ghul wrote:
First off cool to hear your other half is interested that can always be nice just talking to them about ideas and having games.

But I find if you really like this hobby you never really stop. I myself have just come back after a few years of absence from warhammer and I'm loving it. It depends a little on what you want for the hobby, whether it be meeting new people and playing games or painting and converting a awesome looking army or something to use as a bit of an escape from mundane daily routine. I myself use it as an excuse to make cool as looking armies and make up special mission for a few friends but i find my LGC isn't what i'm looking for so unfortunately i don't get as many games in as I'd like also due to friends being very busy with their education/careers.

The prices are still way up so if you are wanting to get cool new minis then 2nd hand is the way to go but if you have the cash then why not treat yourself. as for rules and current meta I'm less knowledgeable on but it seems to be not too bad competitively you see a lot of the same but friendly games see a huge amount of variance. I'm unsure as to when the next rule book will be out as the current 7th ED has been out a few years now and I'm dreading the day i have to go in and but the new $150 dollar book...

So really it's what do you want to do, you said you left cos the prices were ramped all the way up and if that's all you're going on then its still expensive but there are ways around that. but if the question is "is it a good time to get back into it?" now is as good as any other time hope this helped.

I was just thinking, maybe i have the 7th ed book,... the one that is three seperate books in the one overpriced cardboard box? its beengathering dust since i stopped playing and i havent reallly looked at it. it did helpalot, and i think i might just see if i can get some green paint for my boyz and spray it on 'em, thenbase it, since my green all dried up.


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Thank you all who replied, its great knowing the insight from people still in the hobby, it is very much appreciated

It's prohibitively expensive (but that's a relative thing based on your income and desire for 40K specifically).

I've grown cold when it comes to GW. The prices, rapid 'updates' of all my codices / rulebooks (meaning I am no longer 'legitimate') and introduction of super-strong units for some factions put me off.

I've found a lot more pleasure in trying out other game systems such as SAGA, Ronin, Lion Rampant and Frostgrave.

Personally I would recommend trying out a few other games before committing to more GW products.

I love 40K, but it would be very difficult for me to recommend to anyone to either start it up or get back into it right now. The rules are a mess, the rules churn between editions and codexes has shortened, and if you left because of the prices, I'm afraid I've got some bad news. If GW put a storefront on the International Space Station, the astronauts would still brag about how much more Aussies and Kiwis have to pay for a box of plastic man-dollies.

But, if you have a good amount of disposable income and you happen to like the direction the game has taken since you left, then it probably doesn't matter what a stranger living 8,000 miles away thinks

I'd really like to get more people into the game, but really GW isn't a company I can endorse to others, they're just rather scummy :/. This is also coming from someone who recently got back into the game too and the more I learn the less I like it, not so much because of the rules but all of the horrible practices they have.

Judging by the replies, I might just start playing X-wing. XD

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:
Judging by the replies, I might just start playing X-wing. XD

See what your local group is playing. If you want to actually play and painting isn't the biggest part of the hobby for you then you need opponents. If you're in Australia (assuming so from your flag) then you should really make sure there is a 40k community you can play in before you buy anything.

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:
Judging by the replies, I might just start playing X-wing. XD

yea, I wish I could say that getting back into 40k was a good choice but I think so far GW is the only company I can openly tell people to not support because of its behavior.

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:
Judging by the replies, I might just start playing X-wing. XD

DO EET

 jonolikespie wrote:

sLeEpYrOcK wrote:
Judging by the replies, I might just start playing X-wing. XD

See what your local group is playing. If you want to actually play and painting isn't the biggest part of the hobby for you then you need opponents. If you're in Australia (assuming so from your flag) then you should really make sure there is a 40k community you can play in before you buy anything.

This is definitely wise. Australia is a big place, so make sure there's a community in your neighborhood to support whatever choice you make: nothing worse than buying a bunch of minis for a game no one locally plays. Go to your local game store or club and ask questions. Get opinions from a variety of people and go from there. X-Wing is fun, easy to learn, and relatively inexpensive to jump into (the starter box is still a great value). Good luck!

 jreilly89 wrote:
The third biggest problem will be adjusting to the rules. There is a huge disparity right now between power levels of armies, with some being weak and some outright broken (Eldar).

Wow that took all of one post.

As others have said... it's all up to the community around you. I personally started my own playing group and there are about 8-10 of us who manage to get in a game or two each week. but I have the space for 4 tables at my house,and that isn't a luxury everyone has.

Check out your local scene and if there is an abundance of players... go for it. I love 40k, have for 20+ years.

It really depends on what you are coming back to 40k for.

Do you want to play "pick-up games" with strangers or acquaintances?
It is pretty tuff to get a game in without a little bit of negotiation best done with your buddies.
<edit> As mentioned power levels based on points there is a bit of a disparity... Lords of War options can be a bit tricky to balance as well.

The models are good, many we wished for have come out and combined forces are like the days of Armageddon play.
For creating a scenario to match one of your favored black library tale is quite possible now.

Possible issue: "formations" are the big thing now for organization.
Fortunately some great Dakka Folks are helping get all those consolidated so I would go look here:
http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/606496.page

I have played since around 2nd edition and 7th is my least favorite, but it still gets the job done when my friends and I want to play.
I play X-wing or Armada for pick-up games lately.

Good luck!

40k isn't that bad, I recently came back to it after playing my last few games in 5th and maybe one or two in 6th. Inflation is always fun though. I don't think the models are that over priced and yes I did start playing at the end of 2nd Edition. You can still build an Army for $400-550 USD, I know its different in Australia though. I'm not a fan boy just being realistic, price of gas has tripled since I was a kid. Models are getting better detailed, better quality, and more options. I think what most don't realize is the amount of money they spent back when GW was "cheaper" on customizing and having to buy one model or kit to get a weapon they need. Now it is not like that for the most part. I am stunned and shocked as I have recently been buying marine stuff again at how easy it is to customize and have a ton of extra weapon bits that were not the case when I first started to play. I love all plastic or resin models. No more chipping, no more heavy cases etc. Bottom line, I'm thrilled with the models, the rules eh? It depends why you play a wargame. If you want to compare GW to others such as Battlefront with Flames of War, they sent there productions to Malaysia and everything doubled in price. Same quality if not worse too. At least GW when they increase the prices you get what you pay for as far as detail and customization.

What really hurts the wallet is the books, do yourself a favor get the mini rulebook off ebay and buy the codex should only cost you $50-60 USD. I wish I would of done this.

This is just my observation though.

I still have a lot of fun with 40k, I like the maelstrom games for a fun game with friends, though we usually add in the house rule you skip any cards that are impossible at the start of the game, like kill a flyer if the opponent didn't bring one. That house rule seems to make the game a lot more fun than drawing a bunch of impossible cards in a row.

For friendly games we had agreed to re-roll if we got invisibility but are talking about swapping to the ITC version of invisibility.

I also still have a lot of fun with 40k. Don't let the naysayers get you down! 40k can still be an incredibly fun game, the rules may not be all that solid, but the fluff is still pretty dang good! But it is true that a fair bit depends on your gaming community. Most gaming groups are pretty good though.

I don't know why people are crapping on the fast tracked release schedule. People complained for years about GW taking to long to update books. They do the opposite and people complain its to fast. You don't need to buy every codex, just get the ones for your army and if your curious what another army can do make friends and look at there book.

Because it is a gimmick to hide the truth. GW distracts you with a new flashy looking book with a hard cover and shiny pages, so you won't notice the decline in quality. The game is dying, but the corpse will be pretty.

If I had bought the models to practice painting hobby then I could have saved money by buying used childrens toy and painting that for pennies. I bought eh50k for the game and i am fully regretting it because the rules are horrible. I really wish they printed the rule book on toilet paper so that when the new edition comes out, I can at least wipe myself off instead of just having a useless book.