Age of Sigmar News & Rumours - Stormcast Cavalry, Heraldor + Battletome

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**Warhams-77**

MongooseMatt wrote:
Thunderscorn? Anyone have any ideas?

According to Archibald_Tk on Warseer they are Dragon Ogres (Ogors?)

**RiTides**

Draygun Ogors

**Warhams-77**

lol

**Alpharius**

We're not far off from GW replacing all vowels with a 'y', are we?

Or maybe just eliminating them altogether?

**MongooseMatt**

Warhams-77 wrote:

According to Archibald_Tk on Warseer they are Dragon Ogres (Ogors?)

That would make a lot of sense (obvious, really!).

Thanks!

**coldgaming**

Glad to see this, as I'm tired of using my computer to keep track of war scrolls. I'll be picking it up for sure.

**RiTides**

Agreed, not having them printed out would have been a pretty big barrier to play, so it's smart to put them in a book for a reasonable price.

Folks tend to buy things like this even if they're not necessary - for Warmachine / Hordes, I've always bought the books, even though you don't really need them and can just use the cards.

**Sqorgar**

RiTides wrote:
Folks tend to buy things like this even if they're not necessary - for Warmachine / Hordes, I've always bought the books, even though you don't really need them and can just use the cards.

Technically, the WMH books tend to have models that haven't been released yet, so if you want to proxy new models you either need the books or a subscription to that faction's War Room deck. AoS's books have material not found anywhere else (of dubious worth)

I am curious if it will repeat the Bloodbound warscrolls and battalions (thus making the BattleTome obsolete). I think it would be pretty cool if they had the lore/scenario/image-heavy hardback BattleTomes, but also released cheap warscroll-only books to just collect a bunch of the free warscrolls in one convenient place.

**Necros**

I think scroll-only books would be good too. I like big hardback books with tons of art, but they're just not practical for playing when they're college textbook sized.

What I'd really like to see is warscrolls as decks of cards, either poker or tarot sized. maybe with a photo and stats on 1 side and special rules on the other.. and then have the card(s) included in the box sets rather than just printing the scroll on the model building instructions.

**Charles Rampant**

Yeah, the idea of a 20 quid book with just a butt-load of warscrolls is kind of tempting. Especially if it comes with the formations! I mean, you don't need it, not with the app... but then I've always found it much easier and quicker to flip through a book than through an app. Especially interesting since I intend my Khorne guys to be mostly a demo army for home games (I know people who like the idea of Fantasy, but wouldn't really go for 8th for whatever reason, whereas AoS is quick enough to explain that you can tell them the rules and get playing without prior knowledge).

**reds8n**

posting across :

Kesher wrote:
Looks like it's just the new Dwarf models we saw in the e-Book preview, and the "chaos" part from last weeks teaser is the collector army box feature.

The Battlesmith and & Grimwraith berzerker are coming in HOT this week!

Via Scanner 1-18-2015 http://forum.spikeybits.com/showthread.php?29289-WD-104-Duardin-Warscrolls

WD 104 Duardin Warscrolls

**Red_Zeke**

MongooseMatt wrote:
Thunderscorn? Anyone have any ideas?

Dragon Ogres? Got a lightning vibe...

**Thunderfrog**

Wulfson_40K wrote:
What I'd like to know is what's the difference between Brayherds and Warherds. Because Beastmen were never the faction I would have seen as desperately needing to be cut into subfactions.

I think it's purpose is for more keyword saturation, though I agree Beastmen didn't need it.

**Lithlandis Stormcrow**

Wulfson_40K wrote:
Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
I wonder... will that book have new fluff or is it just a parade of Warscrolls?

Considering the speed at which people post on Warseer (which is approximately between that of a snail and a rock) we may have to wait a little to get some clarifications.

I will be very interested to see how well the book sells if it's really just a parade of warscrolls.

**Kilkrazy**

Alpharius wrote:
We're not far off from GW replacing all vowels with a 'y', are we?

Or maybe just eliminating them altogether?

It's like James Thurber's The Wonderful O reversed.

**RazorEdge**

Via Archibald:

So there is definitely fluff in the book. I which quantity I can't tell but apparently each faction will get at least one or two pages of fluff. In addition the book goes deeper when it comes to some of them. For example Slaanesh Hosts have 24 pages for themselves. The surviving followers of Slaanesh are now separated between Pretenders, Seekers and Invaders. Each have their own specific way of either venerating or aiming to replace Slaanesh.

If you wonder if Slaanesh followers are now more PG13, here is an excerpt from a page called "Unbound Revel", at least what I can read without a microscope:
"Counted among the most powerful of the Invaders, the Keeper of Secrets Xia'slae'shesos is dedicated utterly to the expression of his most twisted urges upon mortal flesh. He has surrounded himself with an army of degenerate pleasure seekers, whom he leads in monstrous rampages across the realms"

Still from what I get, you shall not expect vast and deep fluff or side stories.

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?416013-AoS-Upcoming-releases/page15

**wuestenfux**

Those books would be bad. I'd opt for cards like in WMH.

**RazorEdge**

Cards with Profiles, Rules ect. would be very nice!

**Bottle**

I'm a bit underwhelmed by the final two characters - they could pass off as a Standard Bearer and Champion in the Hearthguard really. Overall I think the Fyreslayer range would have benefitted from another unit with more variety, a cavalry unit (of lava beasts) for example or a warmachine of sorts (the flame cannon?).

Still, there are some great models in the range, and I really think adding a small force into another army is going to be a very fun project for many AoSers. In fact, I can't wait for my box of Vulkite Bezerkers to arrive on Wednesday.

The Chaos Warscroll book sounds very interesting. I wonder if they'll do more? I'd likely pick up an Order equivalent. My only concern is how quickly these books will become out of date with the constant new releases.

And people keep mentioning the idea of warscroll cards. YES. PLEASE GW. LISTEN! I would buy a deck for every faction I play.

**jullevi**

1. New Fyreslayer heroes look great but they don't really stand out much because the regular dudes are too decorated.

2. Is anyone else tempted to fill the double mohawk with greenstuff? It would make them look like classic slayer mohawks.

3. Grimwrath Berserker looks like it might fight on 20mm base without a problem.

4. "Grimwrath Berserker" is probably the newest low in AoS naming but at least they didn't throw a "storm" in there...

**Lithlandis Stormcrow**

Bottle wrote:
The Chaos Warscroll book sounds very interesting. I wonder if they'll do more? I'd likely pick up an Order equivalent. My only concern is how quickly these books will become out of date with the constant new releases.

And people keep mentioning the idea of warscroll cards. YES. PLEASE GW. LISTEN! I would buy a deck for every faction I play.

See this GW? This is how you sell free rules

**reds8n**

from the same source/gent as the above pics :

**RoninXiC**

300 pages
~150 entries, some double sided.

That's not alot of pages left for fluff and stuff.

it's going to be 90% warscrolls from the internet.

**wuestenfux**

RoninXiC wrote:
300 pages
~150 entries, some double sided.

That's not alot of pages left for fluff and stuff.

it's going to be 90% warscrolls from the internet.

In terms of the rules (fluff aside), its not a must have.
I prefer to use my iPad for the warscrolls.
The warscrolls for the used models/units can be compactly put together in ''My Battle''.

**Matt.Kingsley**

Since it mentions 21 factions - and all factions have corresponding keywords - they're going to have to change some of the warscrolls to include the new faction keywords.

**Mr Morden**

wuestenfux wrote:
Those books would be bad. I'd opt for cards like in WMH.

Its been said lots of times by lots of people - inside and outside GW - but apparently no one important thinks its a good idea.

**Warzoner**

reds8n wrote:
from the same source/gent as the above pics :

Not gonna lie : I'm disapointed. I was hoping for a W40k chaos-related codex. Now I have yet another AoS book. I'm sad. Like real sad.

**Kilkrazy**

Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Since it mentions 21 factions - and all factions have corresponding keywords - they're going to have to change some of the warscrolls to include the new faction keywords.

Revisionism already? Do we still believe that GW started to work out the AoS rules two and half years ago?

Still, on the plus side, all the changes get rolled into the PDFs available free online, and in to the app data, so it's only your existing £45 books that get invalidated in less than six months..

**Lithlandis Stormcrow**

Kilkrazy wrote:

Still, on the plus side, all the changes get rolled into the PDFs available free online, and in to the app data, so it's only your existing £45 books that get invalidated in less than six months..

I am glad I am not the only one noticing this.

**Kanluwen**

Kilkrazy wrote:
Matt.Kingsley wrote:
Since it mentions 21 factions - and all factions have corresponding keywords - they're going to have to change some of the warscrolls to include the new faction keywords.

Revisionism already? Do we still believe that GW started to work out the AoS rules two and half years ago?

Still, on the plus side, all the changes get rolled into the PDFs available free online, and in to the app data, so it's only your existing £45 books that get invalidated in less than six months..

I must have missed the books with Tzeentch Arcanites, Host of Slaanesh, Monsters of Chaos, Thunderscorn, etc.

It's basically just going to affect the PDFs, as the stuff that already has been in the books seems to be pretty solidified.