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Hi guys, I have completed my KDK army and I want to get a semi-competitive fluffy BT army but I need some advice on what you think of this list. Any advice is appreciated because I haven't bought any models yet. EC goes with the Honour Guard and Chap goes in a Crusader squad.

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Combined Arms Detachment) ++

Chapter Tactics * [Black Templars]

+ HQ +

Chaplain
Power Armour [Bolt Pistol, Melta Bombs]

The Emperor's Champion

+ Elites +

Honour Guard [Chapter Banner]
Chapter Champion [Boltgun, Relic Blade]
3x Honour Guard [Power Sword]
3x Honour Guard [Power Axe]

Ironclad Dreadnought [Ironclad Assault Launchers]
Drop Pod [Storm Bolter]
Power Fist [Heavy Flamer]
Seismic Hammer [Heavy Flamer]

+ Troops +

Crusader Squad
6x Initiate [Chainsword]
Initiate with Special Weapon [Bolt Pistol, Meltagun]
7x Neophyte [Chainsword]
Sword Brother [Bolt Pistol, Power Axe]

Crusader Squad
6x Initiate [Chainsword]
Initiate with Special Weapon [Bolt Pistol, Meltagun]
7x Neophyte [Chainsword]
Sword Brother [Bolt Pistol, Power Axe]

+ Fast Attack +

Land Speeder [Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher]

Land Speeder [Heavy Bolter, Typhoon Missile Launcher]

++ Space Marines: Codex (2015) (Formation Detachment) ++

'Land Raider Spearhead
Land Raider [Multi-melta]
Land Raider Crusader [Multi-melta]
Land Raider Crusader [Multi-melta]

What's your point scale?

Some tips:

-a sword brethren with PF/combi-weapon, a special weapon and an initiate with PF or power weapon in your crusader squads, also get them up to 16 to fill up your LRCs

-a chaplain. Grimaldus would actually be good in your case since he has the zealot bubble which you may be able to give to all three infantry units

That will probably get you close to 2k already but otherwise the raptorwing would be a cheap way to give you a little bit of AA and firepower. If you're leaning more towards a dread, an Ironclad in a pod is pretty decent (Lucius pod even better).

updated the list

Why the standard pattern raider? The las cannon are not worth it. Take another crusader or a redeemer.

Considering he's just carrying the Honour Guards in it the regular LR is not that bad. It adds a bit more anti-tank power to the list and once the unit is dropped off will become a decent shooting platform.

 phoenix darkus wrote:
Considering he's just carrying the Honour Guards in it the regular LR is not that bad. It adds a bit more anti-tank power to the list and once the unit is dropped off will become a decent shooting platform.

Pretty much this, didn't need the capacity so took some anti-tank guns. Do you think I should change anything?

I'd drop the relic blade and 1 honour guard and add a couple of power weapons in your crusader squads.

From personal preference I wouldn't use power axes on your sword brethrens, I'd probably go either power sword or maul.

Looks pretty fluffy otherwise.