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2015/12/11 00:12:01
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Fixture of Dakka
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What are your thoughts about bringing Chaos Space Marine Havoc's with Missiles plus the Flakk missle option? Think its worth it? Are they kind of matched with Loyalist Space Marine Devastators? or are there better ways to spend my points?
EDIT: corrected spelling of Havoc
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/12/11 00:13:39
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2015/12/11 00:14:18
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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As a Loyalist Marine player I will tell you that I don't fear Havocs with Missile Launchers. They suffer from the same problems that Loyalists Devs do. Missile Launchers really aren't that great. They're ok for hurtling light vehicles, but against anything heavier they suffer. Flak Missiles aren't that good either, really being hurt by only being STR 7 AP4. If you're looking for AA then there are definitely better ways to spend your points I would think
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2015/12/11 00:19:37
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Fixture of Dakka
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 War Kitten wrote:As a Loyalist Marine player I will tell you that I don't fear Havocs with Missile Launchers. They suffer from the same problems that Loyalists Devs do. Missile Launchers really aren't that great. They're ok for hurtling light vehicles, but against anything heavier they suffer. Flak Missiles aren't that good either, really being hurt by only being STR 7 AP4. If you're looking for AA then there are definitely better ways to spend your points I would think
Hmmm maybe Lascannons would be better? LIke maybe just devote them for anti vehicle?
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2015/12/11 00:30:10
Subject: Re:Havocs w/ missiles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I like the autocannon the best, one of the few things i would want to steal from your codex as a loyalist.
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2015/12/11 00:33:57
Subject: Re:Havocs w/ missiles
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Fixture of Dakka
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HoundsofDemos wrote:I like the autocannon the best, one of the few things i would want to steal from your codex as a loyalist.
Oh hey yeah... forgot about those.
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2015/12/11 00:37:35
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Ultramarine Master with Gauntlets of Macragge
What's left of Cadia
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Autocannons are the most common loadouts for Havocs, they're arguably almost as good as a missile launcher against light vehicles, and you get more fire coming from the squad.
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TheEyeOfNight- I swear, this thread is 70% smack talk, 20% RP organization, and 10% butt jokes
TheEyeOfNight- "Ordo Xenos reports that the Necrons have attained democracy, kamikaze tendencies, and nuclear fission. It's all tits up, sir."
Space Marine flyers are shaped for the greatest possible air resistance so that the air may never defeat the SPACE MARINES!
Sternguard though, those guys are all about kicking ass. They'd chew bubble gum as well, but bubble gum is heretical. Only tau chew gum
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2015/12/11 00:49:03
Subject: Re:Havocs w/ missiles
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Also not sure what las cannons cost for chaos but i know for SM they are a bit pricey for how fragile the platform is.
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2015/12/11 01:41:42
Subject: Re:Havocs w/ missiles
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Fixture of Dakka
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HoundsofDemos wrote:Also not sure what las cannons cost for chaos but i know for SM they are a bit pricey for how fragile the platform is.
yeah true... I think ACs are the way I'm going to go... they are actually one of my favorite types of weapons anyhow... it would be totally a thrill to march some AC carrying dudes on the table.
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2015/12/11 02:40:38
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Autocannons are about the only thing Havocs got going for them.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
 jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
 vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
 MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2015/12/11 02:57:57
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
York
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I used AC havocs in my last game and they are solid performers in a dex that suffers being hit and miss!
However I also used MLs once and they were ok but nothing to write home about tbh and flak missiles are deffo not worth it... Still theres worse things to spend your points on than ML havocs 
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2015/12/11 03:12:34
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Is that REALLY saying much though?
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2015/12/11 03:37:42
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Khorne Rhino Driver with Destroyer
York
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There's not much to talk about in codex CSM  gotta put a nice spin on things when you can
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2015/12/11 04:37:44
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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They can have plazmaguns or flamers. MoK havoks with ccw and flamers. Hoo, boy, you don't want to deals with them if you run hordes.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/12/11 04:38:27
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2015/12/11 06:51:44
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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 koooaei wrote:
They can have plazmaguns or flamers. MoK havoks with ccw and flamers. Hoo, boy, you don't want to deals with them if you run hordes.
Eh, Cypher's Chosen can Infiltrate those weapons. I'd choose that over Havocs toting them.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
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2015/12/11 09:04:15
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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!!Goffik Rocker!!
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Infiltrating flamers are almost never effective. Infiltrating plazma and melta is not bad though.
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2015/12/11 12:59:38
Subject: Re:Havocs w/ missiles
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Steadfast Ultramarine Sergeant
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How about taking four special weapons (melta or plasma) and load them in a Rhino? They are cheaper than the similar build Chosen squad while not worse in shooting.
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2015/12/11 22:41:52
Subject: Havocs w/ missiles
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Stitch Counter
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I use a squad of havocs with MLs. I don't upgrade them to flakk though.
They're an average unit that has a home in some forces. They're neither rubbish nor award winning.
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