Forum adverts like this one are shown to any user who is not logged in. Join us by filling out a tiny 3 field form and you will get your own, free, dakka user account which gives a good range of benefits to you: No adverts like this in the forums anymore. Times and dates in your local timezone. Full tracking of what you have read so you can skip to your first unread post, easily see what has changed since you last logged in, and easily see what is new at a glance. Email notifications for threads you want to watch closely. Being a part of the oldest wargaming community on the net. If you are already a member then feel free to login now.

Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Buttery Commissar wrote:While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I do empathise with you there. Whilst it did prompt me to actually prepare an ending for the campaign, it ended up dominating this OOC chat, instead of allowing for constructive critique of our actual work.

That said, the quality of stuff in the OT thread is very good now, very good work chaps/chapettes.

War Kitten wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I feel the same way, but after Smudge basically announced that the End Times were upon us there's not much else to do other than talk about what's to come.

Mainly because people seemed very keen to move on. Communication between players as to plans for the final battle is welcomed, as always.

Buttery Commissar wrote:Smudge moved it on because of all the pushing for 2 though. :/

It's unavoidable now, but after stuff like TS setting the pace for evacuating a planet (had he not left), and the expedited ending, I'm wondering how much room there even is for slow paced writers like me.
I enjoyed 1 because it was a community effort that wasn't particularly frantic.

Again, I'm not sure how fast-paced I'll be when I join the ranks of PCs, especially since I'm very much a narrative writer, and not too interested in achieving a goal.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I think I'll be running a Tau force for this new Campaign, lots of possibilities with them.
Don't worry about the Kroot, I've already got a fluff plan in place.

Excellent. My CSM intro weirdly depends on this.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
I think I'll be running a Tau force for this new Campaign, lots of possibilities with them.
Don't worry about the Kroot, I've already got a fluff plan in place.

Excellent. My CSM intro weirdly depends on this.

Wonderful. I'll be interested in hearing more about this when it's more appropriate.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
While it's fun, I kinda feel like CoF 1 was killed off entirely by the CoF II discussion.
This topic went from excitedly discussing plot development and working together, to well, this.

Makes me genuinely uncertain about putting time into writing for either. Not because I want people pay attention and to talk about cuddlessars and oily governors, but because the pace has changed.
It felt more relaxed before.

I blame myself for that. I kind of lost interest after Gandorf's Passage because there wasn't a direction in which the plot was going. I posted more about internal conflicts than I did for conflicts I had to roll for, as such, when I ran out of internal conflicts, I ran out of ideas.

Ok, because my Kroot would be looking over their shoulders for the Tau, and them wanting the Kroot to focus their efforts on the Greater Good. You say you have a plan though, and so I won't worry about it.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

The map Chazz did doesn't stray far from Kharne's. It is the same design and such, just plant life. He took out the deserts because they didn't fit the plots well.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

Agh, now we do not know what's hidden in that Dense wilderness so.
There's room to find things . Its a pretty blank map that well, there could be anything from a old tractor yo a hidden weapons bunker.

I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

The map Chazz did doesn't stray far from Kharne's. It is the same design and such, just plant life. He took out the deserts because they didn't fit the plots well.

I meant there was a border thing with A-Z, 1-10 I think?
Made it easy to say where you meant.

NOTE TO IMPERIAL FORCES IN CRUSADE OF FURY

I need rolls for the Hybrid assault on Brackus. So far, I need rolls from:

2BlackJack1 (Got)

Tainted (Got)

Bobthehero Got

jhe90 (Got)

War Kitten (Got)

Sgt_Smudge (Got)

chazz huggins Got

ALL ROLLS ATTAINED!


I need to give them to chazz so they can write up the battle.

Il do it now master of the numbered dice.

 Bobthehero wrote:
There you go, blurb is out, Voidspider is dead, my forces are being moved to the main push.

I left a few men to keep Tainted some company.

You realise my guys are pulling out too, right? I don't want to be branded a traitor, and there's not much point in staying on Julla...

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Just saw the map, I am disappointed to say the least.

I'll run along though, not much can be done about it now

Instead of being a Debby downer, why don't you offer something constructive?

Well, Kharne originally gave a coordinated grid layout and illustrated lots of different terrain. I would imagine that work being left out feels a bit bad, even if it's for plot reasons.

The map Chazz did doesn't stray far from Kharne's. It is the same design and such, just plant life. He took out the deserts because they didn't fit the plots well.

I meant there was a border thing with A-Z, 1-10 I think?
Made it easy to say where you meant.

I believe Chazz is working on something close to that right now

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

Didn't I give you that number already?

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

Work at own pace, your a trader/admech, so you have ore room for internal plots.
I'm not fastest, lots of old chapter ruins to explore etc.
Write when you can, what you enjoy and just do what you can and want.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I feel that it was mostly my fault. COF has slowed down rather drastically and someone mentioned the idea for the second one, and then it took off from there. I get obsessive with things rather easily, so I kept mentioning it and discussing it with the others. It's my fault, and it's screwing everyone else over.

Bobthehero wrote:Didn't I give you that number already?

You gave me a number for the final battle against everything else, this is just against the Hybrids. Unless you want me to use the same number?

War Kitten wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I feel that it was mostly my fault. COF has slowed down rather drastically and someone mentioned the idea for the second one, and then it took off from there. I get obsessive with things rather easily, so I kept mentioning it and discussing it with the others. It's my fault, and it's screwing everyone else over.

Not at all. It's all fine by me.

Here's some constructive criticism: add terrain
All I saw was jungle and jungle
My previous statement still stands

Also, I think I killed CoF I. I started the whole discussion about it

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:Didn't I give you that number already?

You gave me a number for the final battle against everything else, this is just against the Hybrids. Unless you want me to use the same number?

Yeah, lets go with that

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

 War Kitten wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

It's an interesting concept. Would that 1 roll be for both factions? Or one roll for each of my factions?

Each faction would take one roll. Apart from that would be narrative character building.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:

Bobthehero wrote:Didn't I give you that number already?

You gave me a number for the final battle against everything else, this is just against the Hybrids. Unless you want me to use the same number?

Yeah, lets go with that

Cool beans.

One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 War Kitten wrote:
I feel so bad, I think I was one of the reasons why COF 1 is being cut short. I feel like an a***** now.

It was a joint effort.
Between the discussion and the post Christmas die-off. Smudge is picking up slack for users who just vanished, as well.

I wasn't trying to be blaming, I just meant I have concerns for slowpokes. There are weeks I'll be off the net entirely in the next few months, and with CoF, that wouldn't have mattered. The current pace is not maintainable for me across the second, though.

At the end of the day, I'm grateful to take part. I'm just scared I'll hold anyone up and then it'll stop feeling fun.

I thought about instilling a "1 roll per week." This would encourage more depth for characters by fleshing out internal conflicts and making this feel like a narrative, not a game.

My rolls for social things have been in groups of 1-3 that steer the conversation.

For example when my group went to discuss with the governor:

- Roll for Selka to convince the governor to recall men and allow screening.
- - [If failure] Roll for Selka to resist choking governor.
- Roll for Fairfax to play good cop and convince him instead.

These were only for major permission or social rolls. I have done <10 thus far I think.

 2BlackJack1 wrote:
One problem I have with that idea is that I use the action rolls to form some form of internal conflicts. I wouldn't have much to work with, and I would worry that Crusade progress would slow to a halt, if we only have one day with actual story progress once a week, and everything else doesn't actually mean much in the bigger picture.

Everything is story progress and it does mean a lot in the bigger picture. Think about every one of my plots. Most of those revolved around something fleshed out in a "narrative blurb."

Allowing one roll would make you really consider your options. Another idea to go with this, would be more active modifiers. If you have a lot of forces on your side for an attack, you will get a little bonues to your roll, more forces against you will give you a negative modifier, etc. I will explain when the time comes.