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 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I literally don't know how many EC or Admech I have. Less than a lot, more than some.

Is that an issue? I assumed defeats work in percentages so losing 30% just means I need to keep track when making rolls and say "I want to do this but I'm down 30% from last time" so the GM modifies.

Y/N ?

I won't modify the roll, per say. The narrative outcome will be determined based upon the strength of your force.

The strength of my force is "some people". I didn't like how this was basically becoming 40K army lists and about loadout and winning/losing.

That's my story and absolutely not that I know dick all about weaponry.

There's gonna be combat, its 40k, its inevitable, if you don't bring forces that can deal with that and then send them where combat is sure to show up, you can't expect things to go your way.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I literally don't know how many EC or Admech I have. Less than a lot, more than some.

Is that an issue? I assumed defeats work in percentages so losing 30% just means I need to keep track when making rolls and say "I want to do this but I'm down 30% from last time" so the GM modifies.

Y/N ?

I won't modify the roll, per say. The narrative outcome will be determined based upon the strength of your force.

The strength of my force is "some people". I didn't like how this was basically becoming 40K army lists and about loadout and winning/losing.

That's my story and absolutely not that I know dick all about weaponry.

I will assume your force is small enough that you could be in enemy controlled territory and they wouldn't notice you spelunking in some cave under them or in the ruins to the left. I figure you can get through the campaign without firing a shot.

 Bobthehero wrote:
There's gonna be combat, its 40k, its inevitable, if you don't bring forces that can deal with that and then send them where combat is sure to show up, you can't expect things to go your way.

Wanna count how many things I shot in CoF1 for me?
I can save you the time: One secretary.

So no.

You didn't exactly send your forces on any sizeable battlefields, either.

This time the play area is much smaller, I doubt you'll be able to skid around battlefields liek you did.

Each can play to their own. I do hope that there will be enough room for pacifists in this crusade, seeing as my Tau will want to go down this route at some point.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

My Necrons have Tau allies TS. I've stated that several times. I'd simply have Grulahk contact Kageros then Kageros contacts Harax. Simple, if you don't like it then go be a fluff Nazi somewhere else

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
I literally don't know how many EC or Admech I have. Less than a lot, more than some.

Is that an issue? I assumed defeats work in percentages so losing 30% just means I need to keep track when making rolls and say "I want to do this but I'm down 30% from last time" so the GM modifies.

Y/N ?

I won't modify the roll, per say. The narrative outcome will be determined based upon the strength of your force.

The strength of my force is "some people". I didn't like how this was basically becoming 40K army lists and about loadout and winning/losing.

That's my story and absolutely not that I know dick all about weaponry.

I will assume your force is small enough that you could be in enemy controlled territory and they wouldn't notice you spelunking in some cave under them or in the ruins to the left. I figure you can get through the campaign without firing a shot.

Pretty much unless someone attacks my base. That's why I'm pulling up with Blackjack early on (no obligation for him to stay), that the Kroot can cover my shiny metal ass while I get excitedly distracted by bits of tinfoil and USB sticks.

The EC are gonna possibly need quantifying I guess, in comparison?

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I was only thinking of bringing about 110 marines...40 of them being vets. Kinda goes well with my 'Almost wiped out by a traitor, trying to rebuild' and 'Will work for geneseed'

Are you stealing my ideas, friend?

Never friend, To be honest, I didn't even know you had marines...

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

My Necrons have Tau allies TS. I've stated that several times. I'd simply have Grulahk contact Kageros then Kageros contacts Harax. Simple, if you don't like it then go be a fluff Nazi somewhere else

Its not really being a fluff nazi as much as me pointing out that you have two forces, who are polar opposites in terms of moral alignment, as buddies.

 Sgt_Smudge wrote:
Each can play to their own. I do hope that there will be enough room for pacifists in this crusade, seeing as my Tau will want to go down this route at some point.

Should be. Long as you do not try to take prime territory. Out of wat can be ignored more

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I was only thinking of bringing about 110 marines...40 of them being vets. Kinda goes well with my 'Almost wiped out by a traitor, trying to rebuild' and 'Will work for geneseed'

Are you stealing my ideas, friend?

Never friend, To be honest, I didn't even know you had marines...

Just as planned.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

My Necrons have Tau allies TS. I've stated that several times. I'd simply have Grulahk contact Kageros then Kageros contacts Harax. Simple, if you don't like it then go be a fluff Nazi somewhere else

Its not really being a fluff nazi as much as me pointing out that you have two forces, who are polar opposites in terms of moral alignment, as buddies.

Usually, but these 2 factions of mine are allies, I had it detailed in my Necrons background that I'm adapting

These are not Sautekh Necrons and Vior'la Tau

 Bobthehero wrote:
You didn't exactly send your forces on any sizeable battlefields, either.

This time the play area is much smaller, I doubt you'll be able to skid around battlefields liek you did.

TS already said that if we were looking for narrative/diplomacy missions he would have a go at including them, where appropriate. And that the RT has the only non npc ship (though I'm not going to be using it for transporting around the map).
Plus my Admech base is in the snow at the bottom where nobody wants to be. My motivation is entirely Indiana Jones style recovery of SM bling from relevant sites until it gets slapped out of my metal fingers by plot lines.

Or to put it another way: There's very little motive for anyone to attack my force unless you metagame and realise it impacts WK.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I was only thinking of bringing about 110 marines...40 of them being vets. Kinda goes well with my 'Almost wiped out by a traitor, trying to rebuild' and 'Will work for geneseed'

Are you stealing my ideas, friend?

Never friend, To be honest, I didn't even know you had marines...

Just as planned.

Your not the Emperor...YOUR TZEENTCH!

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

My Necrons have Tau allies TS. I've stated that several times. I'd simply have Grulahk contact Kageros then Kageros contacts Harax. Simple, if you don't like it then go be a fluff Nazi somewhere else

Its not really being a fluff nazi as much as me pointing out that you have two forces, who are polar opposites in terms of moral alignment, as buddies.

Usually, but these 2 factions of mine are allies, I had it detailed in my Necrons background that I'm adapting

That better be an air tight explanation or you risk running aground on Goto Island.

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I was only thinking of bringing about 110 marines...40 of them being vets. Kinda goes well with my 'Almost wiped out by a traitor, trying to rebuild' and 'Will work for geneseed'

Are you stealing my ideas, friend?

Never friend, To be honest, I didn't even know you had marines...

Just as planned.

Your not the Emperor...YOUR TZEENTCH!

You need to read more of my fluff.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I was only thinking of bringing about 110 marines...40 of them being vets. Kinda goes well with my 'Almost wiped out by a traitor, trying to rebuild' and 'Will work for geneseed'

Are you stealing my ideas, friend?

Never friend, To be honest, I didn't even know you had marines...

Just as planned.

Your not the Emperor...YOUR TZEENTCH!

You need to read more of my fluff.

Probably yea...I just can't be bothered scrolling through a million pages at 7:20 in the morning...

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Or to put it another way: There's very little motive for anyone to attack my force unless you metagame and realise it impacts WK.

Or someone goes '' Hey, unguarded Admech *clomp* ''

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Sgt. Vanden wrote:
I was only thinking of bringing about 110 marines...40 of them being vets. Kinda goes well with my 'Almost wiped out by a traitor, trying to rebuild' and 'Will work for geneseed'

Are you stealing my ideas, friend?

Never friend, To be honest, I didn't even know you had marines...

Just as planned.

Your not the Emperor...YOUR TZEENTCH!

You need to read more of my fluff.

Probably yea...I just can't be bothered scrolling through a million pages at 7:20 in the morning...

I came in at page 8 or so. Start there

I'm just running on limitless cultists and going to be excusing wins/defeats on morale and chaos. Because that's how cultists work in the fluff, sometimes 10000 cultists are wiped out by an arbites squad, and sometimes 14 cultists take over a city and build a massive army.

Because Chaos and motivation.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Or to put it another way: There's very little motive for anyone to attack my force unless you metagame and realise it impacts WK.

Or someone goes '' Hey, unguarded Admech *clomp* ''

Or maybe I can assign one of my Knights to watch over BC and his AdMech.

Well I'm running on a fairly standard aproach of I'm only making enemies of you attack me.
Il try not to be a centre of all manner of gak.

 Bobthehero wrote:

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
Or to put it another way: There's very little motive for anyone to attack my force unless you metagame and realise it impacts WK.

Or someone goes '' Hey, unguarded Admech *clomp* ''

That'd be rather silly considering they're the most skilled mechanics on the planet in the middle of a warzone.

They're pretty grey area on who they help.
More intelligent is to go, "Hey unguarded Admech, the Emperor isn't watching... Wanna fix my dread in exchange for this stuff I looted off a corpse found?"
My idea for them was genuinely to assist both sides at the same time, and weigh up at the end who paid better.

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

My Necrons have Tau allies TS. I've stated that several times. I'd simply have Grulahk contact Kageros then Kageros contacts Harax. Simple, if you don't like it then go be a fluff Nazi somewhere else

Its not really being a fluff nazi as much as me pointing out that you have two forces, who are polar opposites in terms of moral alignment, as buddies.

Usually, but these 2 factions of mine are allies, I had it detailed in my Necrons background that I'm adapting

That better be an air tight explanation or you risk running aground on Goto Island.

I mean its a viable explanation, it works.

So, here's a question. People consider fluff written by certain authors as ridiculous, understandable. But it's still Canon, it's more Canon than what we write. That stuff happens, even if you think it's bad. Ignoring a piece of fluff because you think the author wrote it horribly is like skipping a question on a test because it's terribly written.

Not everyone wants to bargain like it, I wouldn't non combattants like that in a warzone and not expect them to be shot at. Especially considering how insane the enemy is, more often than not.

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:

 Tactical_Spam wrote:

 Kharne the Befriender wrote:
I'd only be bringing in a small contingent of Earth Caste workers for... Purposes

I am seriously starting to question your grasp of the 40k universe...

My Necrons have Tau allies TS. I've stated that several times. I'd simply have Grulahk contact Kageros then Kageros contacts Harax. Simple, if you don't like it then go be a fluff Nazi somewhere else

Its not really being a fluff nazi as much as me pointing out that you have two forces, who are polar opposites in terms of moral alignment, as buddies.

Usually, but these 2 factions of mine are allies, I had it detailed in my Necrons background that I'm adapting

That better be an air tight explanation or you risk running aground on Goto Island.

I mean its a viable explanation, it works.

So, here's a question. People consider fluff written by certain authors as ridiculous, understandable. But it's still Canon, it's more Canon than what we write. That stuff happens, even if you think it's bad. Ignoring a piece of fluff because you think the author wrote it horribly is like skipping a question on a test because it's terribly written.

There is not a soul in the Warp that considers CS Goto to be canon. We can completely ignore it because it is absolutely nonsense and breaks the already existing fluff completely. (Slaaneshi Eldar, Astartes Multilasers and back flipping Terminators come to mind)

I'd hate to be mean, but Necron/Tau friends is very far into the CS Goto "not-canon-in-a-million-years" fluff.

A knight and a few krootox should be enough of a deterrence for any small assaults. My orks, being loot driven hermits, might have a go at the place because trying to talk to walking loot is boring, but they're on a completely different map, and don't know that the Admech is even there. They'll mostly be caught up with recruiting the ferals and trying to get a play date with Jhe and WK at the beginning.

TS, why is it such a problem now? I had Tau allies in CoF 1. I'm sure we've had this discussion before. I have an explanation that works, so accept it, deal with it, and move on with your life.