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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Necron Abbatoir.

Hey kids, imagine a bunch of monoliths strapped together, that periodically generates swarms of scarabs and has a bunch of tentacles that drains the souls out of mortals, which are contained within the warmachine for later use.

I did. Its awesome, and I want one.

I made one of these for Epic. If you scaled it up it would be about the size of the average 40k table.

Scratch that. That's something GW would exactly shoehorn into 7th.

the_Armyman wrote:

HoundsofDemos wrote:
Arbites

Seconded. I think a PDF codex could include Arbites, Press Gang squads, Imperial cultists, Redemptionists/Zealots, worker militias, older pattern Russ' and Chimeras (Chimeradon, Chimerax), and "looted" civilian vehicles; all pressed into service to defend a world before the IG and space Marines arrive to save the day.

Yes to this! In fact I'd love to see some sort of 'low intensity conflict' 40k game or rules. Still 40k, but no mecha, no marines, no monsterous creatures just PDF and cultists and orks fighting it out with basic weapons.

Lukash_ wrote:Lasguns get a bad rap. Against human enemies, they are devastatingly effective, especially at close range. They're very easy to maintain and are easier logistically due to a lack of ammo.

The problem is, good against human enemies doesn't translate well to ancient space skeletons or chaos-fueled killing machines.

Exactly, the IG are at least as competent as modern armies with even better equipment, but the problem is GW decided that baseline humans would be the low end of the scale. So even the best human armies are like a High School JV team trying to play to pros.

Lucky you get so many of them huh?

As for me my top 5 or so

Inquisition-A fully fleshed out Inquisition with tons of mad options and radical inquisitors. The current world of allies, unbound and other craziness might make this unnecessary but I'd still like it all in once place.
Arbites - I mean if Space Vikings and Space Soviets and Space Hobbits are fine, why is there no room for the SWAT team army?
Chaos Cults - again fully fleshed out army, Akira type psykers, infiltrating suicide squads, mutants and the like. In fact add a page or two and the same book can be used for Genestealer Cults and Imperial Redemptionist Cults.
Sensei - Ninja/jedi/highlanders for the win!
Rogue Trader - Space Pirates/Navy, yarrr! Shiver me Space Timbers! Ahoy ground lubbers we be coming to take yer Space Gold with our Lazor Cutlasses and Server Peglegs! Aquilla Landers and Arvus Lighters in plastic, the whole army deep striking, what's not to love?


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 Grimtuff wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Necron Abbatoir.

Hey kids, imagine a bunch of monoliths strapped together, that periodically generates swarms of scarabs and has a bunch of tentacles that drains the souls out of mortals, which are contained within the warmachine for later use.

I did. Its awesome, and I want one.

I made one of these for Epic. If you scaled it up it would be about the size of the average 40k table.

Pics?

I would like to see Necrons get rules for the World Engine - wouldn't make them any more OP : )

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Necron Abbatoir.

Hey kids, imagine a bunch of monoliths strapped together, that periodically generates swarms of scarabs and has a bunch of tentacles that drains the souls out of mortals, which are contained within the warmachine for later use.

I did. Its awesome, and I want one.

I made one of these for Epic. If you scaled it up it would be about the size of the average 40k table.

Pics?

Don't have any to hand as my Epic Necrons are stored away, but I based it on this guy's Abattoir, which is a giant floating step pyramid made from several square bases. Having a footprint of 100x100 in Epic makes this thing huge.

That looks pretty awesome.
Its like an evil pyramid squid. I love it!

 Powerfisting wrote:

 ChazSexington wrote:
Sheed Ranko. I would've preferred him to Armillus Dynat. Having something entirely different would've been fun.

I've never heard of him. Care to elaborate?

That seems about right

Sheed Ranko was the head honcho of the Lernaean Terminators - Alpha Legion Terminators that specialised in seizing objectives, represented by the fact they have Objective Secured. He died blowing up the Tenebrae facility, allowing the White Scars to get to Terra.

Where to start in my Necron codex...

Tesseract Labrinth no longer has rules. Neither does the Silent King, or all the fancy gadgets of the Crypteks.

Mindshackle Scarabs also don't have rules, which is a shame.

rules for the huge variety of Guard Regiments which compared to the "different coloured armour" Chapters of Astartes is truly vast.....

 Psienesis wrote:

 ZergSmasher wrote:
Tau of other castes besides Fire and Ethereal. Or have they already been made?

Earth and Water Caste Tau are non-combatants. They don't have a role on the battlefield.

So are ethereals for the most part, yet we have 3 special characters and a generic ethereal to run around the field. It would be nice to have a few exceptions to the rule for the other castes as well. Having one water caste guy who always has his superiors on his case because he won't play by the rules won't break our illusion of water castes as diplomats and bureaucrats. Not any more than having one scribe who's been recruited follow some random inquisitor traipsing across the battlefield makes us think all administratum are combat-ready.

They all could be justified with a little creativity.
-An earth-caste battlefield mechanic could run around with a retinue of drones repairing battlesuits and vehicles, techpriest-style.
-In fluff air caste rarely go planetside, but supposedly pilot all the Tau aircraft. They could make an "Ace fighter pilot" upgrade sprue to let you field a named razorshark pilot. Give it an ejection system (like battlesuits and I think some of the FW stuff used to be able to take) and you could have an excuse to put an air caste model on the table.
-Maybe even a water-caste negotiator who roams the battlefield with a team of mercenaries doing his negotiating the hard way. Give him a team of tau-allied xenos and humans and stick it all in a box in the style of the old "inquisitor and retinue" boxes, and if they're multipart plastic, people would snap them up for conversions, even if the rules were lackluster. (Admittedly, that one's a bit of a stretch.)

The Earth Caste also pilots battle suits now

Blood Angels that can win a battle. By crunch, they should be wiped out in less than month.

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Earth Caste also pilots battle suits now

True, but it's very rare. There's very little non-fire caste fluff to go on though. The 40k RPGs give a decent idea of the kind of stuff you can expect to see on an imperium-controled world, but we rarely see anything tau-related that's not a battlefield. I wish forge world still did some civilian/non-military vehicles.

Expeditionary forces, lead by rogue traders.

Lucifer blacks.

Naval capabilities.

Civilians.

Bins.

 Rainyday wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Earth Caste also pilots battle suits now

True, but it's very rare. There's very little non-fire caste fluff to go on though. The 40k RPGs give a decent idea of the kind of stuff you can expect to see on an imperium-controled world, but we rarely see anything tau-related that's not a battlefield. I wish forge world still did some civilian/non-military vehicles.

Isn't there a Tau journalist in one of the older Codexes?

An Ork superheavy that's smaller then the stompa (forgot the name of them). Just develop the rules for them and then use the existing gmorkanaut chasi as the model.
On the same note, give us rules for the gargantuan and larger Ork superheavys.

 ZergSmasher wrote:
Tau of other castes besides Fire and Ethereal. Or have they already been made?

Forge world did some air caste models years ago.

Rainyday wrote:

 Mr Morden wrote:
The Earth Caste also pilots battle suits now

True, but it's very rare. There's very little non-fire caste fluff to go on though. The 40k RPGs give a decent idea of the kind of stuff you can expect to see on an imperium-controled world, but we rarely see anything tau-related that's not a battlefield. I wish forge world still did some civilian/non-military vehicles.

There is one Earth Caste battle suit pilot, and he's a secret.

Oh, I guess there's the FW mega suit, but that's more a turret than a battle suit. :p

Mr Morden wrote:
Isn't there a Tau journalist in one of the older Codexes?

He was for Inquisitor. The 54mm game.

Primarchs surviving a stomp attack.

Won't say who but it has been done in the fluff.

Ragnarok tank. I'd love to field a Guard regiment with those.

Guys, O'vesa is Earth Caste and the ECPA means the Tau in the suit is Earth Caste. So while uncommon we do see them in combat even when talking about the minis.

The only on we don't see in battle is the Water Caste but that makes sense. Though my army is going to be a Water Caste war initiate thing fluff wise.

 Tigramans wrote:
Ragnarok tank. I'd love to field a Guard regiment with those.

Yeah forgeworld never made one did they? I see fan made ones from time to time but GW only made them for epic right?

easy enough to use a historical kit, maybe just the turret on a Chimera chasis but they are a neat design.

Sisters of Battle superheavies.

Martel732 wrote:
Blood Angels that can win a battle. By crunch, they should be wiped out in less than month.

Your continued posts on the background forums and the discussion of fluff that whine on and on about the plight of the blood angels is tragic. And quite frankly is always OT. This thread is about things that don't have rules, blood angels do, and tough luck if they aren't the best. You are the worst kind of troll and I don't understand why you are determined to wage your one-manned crusade of bitterness for the blood angels. Frankly you should put up or shut up.

 IGtR= wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Blood Angels that can win a battle. By crunch, they should be wiped out in less than month.

Your continued posts on the background forums and the discussion of fluff that whine on and on about the plight of the blood angels is tragic. And quite frankly is always OT. This thread is about things that don't have rules, blood angels do, and tough luck if they aren't the best. You are the worst kind of troll and I don't understand why you are determined to wage your one-manned crusade of bitterness for the blood angels. Frankly you should put up or shut up.

Put up what, exactly?

Martel732 wrote:

 IGtR= wrote:

Martel732 wrote:
Blood Angels that can win a battle. By crunch, they should be wiped out in less than month.

Your continued posts on the background forums and the discussion of fluff that whine on and on about the plight of the blood angels is tragic. And quite frankly is always OT. This thread is about things that don't have rules, blood angels do, and tough luck if they aren't the best. You are the worst kind of troll and I don't understand why you are determined to wage your one-manned crusade of bitterness for the blood angels. Frankly you should put up or shut up.

Put up what, exactly?

If I get what he is saying, there are a few ways to put up with the current state of BA:

1) Give up, leave and never return (like Simba).
2) Accept that your favorite army gets stomped again and again with no chance of victory (What I did playing Armored Battlegroup since 4th).
3) Accept that the game is in its 7th iteration and field things like allies and superheavies. (thunderhawks are pretty fun XD)

Somebody needs to e-mail this to GW. They'd probably make a feth-ton of cash were they to do this stuff in the next Edition (if they last that long).

 dusara217 wrote:
Somebody needs to e-mail this to GW. They'd probably make a feth-ton of cash were they to do this stuff in the next Edition (if they last that long).

You make one flawed assumption here, you think that GW makes reasonable decisions while the evidence points to the contrary.

 dusara217 wrote:
Somebody needs to e-mail this to GW. They'd probably make a feth-ton of cash were they to do this stuff in the next Edition (if they last that long).

I've already emailed them to ask if they can make the Horus Heresy into a Marvel Cinematic Universe style movie series.

We got the Ultramarine movie instead.

Uriel Ventris (or Captain Titus)
I want table representations for my favorite rebellious Ultramarines

I miss the story arc of the Sensei -- originally the Emperor's children (I think this was changed at some point to not be the *actual* biological children) that he doesn't know about, who don't age or disease and are (mostly) psykers immune to the perils of warp. I think they'd have a great spot as 40k equivalents of Primarchs.

Just think, FW could make more $100 heroic infantry sized character models on gigantic scenic bases, too.