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Do rad grenades stack? Say a death guard player charged 4 different units equipped with rad grenades would they cause an average unit of marines to instantly die due to their toughness being reduced to 0?

I would expect them to stack, but I think the rule would say only to a minimum of T1, same as in 40K.

As I understand it, they do stack, but only between different units.
So, if my two squads of Death Guard with rad grenades charged you, that would be -2, but if one squad with rad grenades and an attached preator with rad grenades charged you, that would only count as one squad, so it would only be -1.

I haven't seen anything that says that one cannot take the toughness of a model down to 0 with rad grenades.

 Imateria wrote:
I would expect them to stack, but I think the rule would say only to a minimum of T1, same as in 40K.

If you don't mind me asking, where? the only rules I can find regarding that is that the BRB says that if T is reduced to ) they are removed from play.

 Brennonjw wrote:

 Imateria wrote:
I would expect them to stack, but I think the rule would say only to a minimum of T1, same as in 40K.

If you don't mind me asking, where? the only rules I can find regarding that is that the BRB says that if T is reduced to ) they are removed from play.

Now that I've checked, it appears that it doesnt. So yes, no minimum means the rad grenades can kill by reducing toughness to 0.

If you somehow get four rad grenade units to charge my unit at the same time, you deserve that.

Can't independent characters join each other? Four preators in a unit in a Spartan, then separate and charge one turn. Four seperate units. -4 toughness.

 welshhoppo wrote:
Can't independent characters join each other? Four preators in a unit in a Spartan, then separate and charge one turn. Four seperate units. -4 toughness.

Sure, but then, you have to many HQs for the force org. chart., also, that's a minimum of like, 700 points

Also 4 Praetors can only be taken in 4000+ pt games.

You could do it with 3 Forge Lords and a Techmarine, though that's using all 3 HQ slots for what is ultimately a gimmick that will probably only work once.

Would One Praetor, Two Forgelords and a Destroyer Squad work?

Well I didn't say it was practical. It would be hilarious for the one time it works however.

It works when confronted by large mobs of low toughness units that your opponent hopes to use as tarpits, like Imperial Militia mobs and the like with disciplinary officers and bomb collars. Just charge in, reduce their toughness to zero and.. profit!

I've done it twice now (still feel iffy about it as a whole):

Charged OP's Guilliman + suzerian squad with 2 tactical squads, command squad, praetor, and centurion with the DG right of war: ID'd the suzerians, brought Guilliman to T: 1 (this was using the DG right of war)

A buddy charged a dreadnought + 2 tanks with his 10-man terminator/praetor/chaplain blob, killed them off, then I counter charged with 1 tac squad, praetor, command squad, and 3 deathshroud terminators, bringing them to T: 0, removing them.

Generally, this "tactic" is near TFG levels, but RAW it works since the grenades last the entire assault phase (technically overwatch too, but I think that that's dumb), and it makes the mark that the grenades do not stack within a squad, but makes no mention of them not stacking through the phase if brought in from multiple squads. It really only comes to play if someone over extends their expensive choppy unit, and you can swarm them (with 1/2 of your entire army )

nm just realized this was 30k....no idea if the rules are different and frankly not interested in finding out.