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Hi all! I've been toying with this list to run with until I get some more of my Auxilia and and was looking for any C&C.

Like the Subject, the theme is a "generic" siege assault: medusas (or bombards, Limited by models) and Quad Mortars kill and hope to pin any infantry out of cover/holding objectives, while everything else marches up

+++ Death Guard + Auxilia Seige Assault (2500pts) +++

++ Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army List (Age of Darkness) (1830pts) ++

+ HQ (380pts) +

Legion Centurion (155pts) [Cataphractii Terminator Armour with Combi-bolter and Power Weapon, Cyber-familiar, Nuncio-vox, Rad Grenades]
··Consul [Forge Lord]

Legion Praetor (225pts) [Artificer Armour, Digital Lasers, Iron Halo, Paragon Blade, Power Fist, The Barbaran Thurible]
··Master of the Legion [The Reaping]

+ Troops (680pts) +

Legion Tactical Squad (340pts) [19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
··Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Weapon, Rad Grenades]

Legion Tactical Squad (340pts) [19x Legion Tactical Space Marines, Legion Vexilla, Nuncio-Vox, Take an additional Chainsword or Combat Blade]
··Legion Tactical Sergeant [Artificer Armour, Power Weapon, Rad Grenades]

+ Elites (770pts) +

Apothecarion Detachment (140pts)
··Legion Apothecary [Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner, Power Sword]
··Legion Apothecary [Artificer Armour, Augury Scanner, Power Sword]

Legion Dreadnought Talon (450pts)
··Legion Dreadnought [Flamestorm Cannon, Heavy Flamer]
··Legion Dreadnought [Flamestorm Cannon, Heavy Flamer]
··Legion Dreadnought [Flamestorm Cannon, Heavy Flamer]

Legion Rapier Weapons Battery (180pts)
··Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')]
··Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')]
··Legion Rapier Weapons Battery [Quad Mortar ('Thud Gun')]

+ Legion +

Legion Astartes [XIV: Death Guard]

++ Solar Auxilia (Allied Detachment) (670pts) ++

+ HQ (45pts) +

Legate Commander (45pts)

+ Troops (100pts) +

Auxilia Infantry Tercio (100pts) [Auxilia Lasrifle Section]

+ Heavy Support (525pts) +

Auxilia Artillery Tank Battery (525pts) [Auxilia Medusa, Auxilia Medusa, Auxilia Medusa]

The Forge Lord either runs with the dreads or sits with the Medusas, apothecaries giving each tac squad interceptor + an infiltrate denial zone to help protect the artillery through the deployment phase.

One major change I'm thinking about is dropping the auxillia detachment as a whole, and bringing the medusas as legion medusas, though then I feel like i'd be at a lack of boots on the ground.

I'm not convinced by the solar auxilia detatchment either - admittedly, their medusas are better, but you are paying a tax on getting them. Maybe swap for legion medusas and buy another legion troop?

I'd free up some points to give the Dreads something better than a Flamestorm Cannon. With no Drop Pods I doubt they'll get close enough to actually use it.

How do you plan to deal with lascannons? A small squad of 5 men outrange everything besides the frag guns on the Quad guns. After your medusas are destroyed/ Disabled there is little stopping a dedicated melee squad from slaughtering the entire line.

Also It seems the praetor isn't really doing anything. hes kitted out for melee but besides tactical squads there is nothing that can handle melee with him well.

other then that seems like a solid enough list.

 Valkyrie wrote:
I'd free up some points to give the Dreads something better than a Flamestorm Cannon. With no Drop Pods I doubt they'll get close enough to actually use it.

I was thinking about it, but I keep them for fluffy reasons (DG+ flamers = fun ) and the hope that I get the WT that gives me D3 units shred (so I don't have to risk the gets hot for these flamers.) One thing I've done (and will do if I drop the auxillia detachement in favor of more marines) is bringing the promethium pipeline to give my shredding flamer the reach that they need.


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 Ultramarine Vindictus wrote:
How do you plan to deal with lascannons? A small squad of 5 men outrange everything besides the frag guns on the Quad guns. After your medusas are destroyed/ Disabled there is little stopping a dedicated melee squad from slaughtering the entire line.

Also It seems the praetor isn't really doing anything. hes kitted out for melee but besides tactical squads there is nothing that can handle melee with him well.

other then that seems like a solid enough list.

well, the lascannon squad would cost ~230 points if it was just the las cannons and no other upgrades, worst case scenario I move up my line a bit more, slide the medusae up 6" and bombard them. Additionally, I'm not TO to worried about dedicated melee units as quite a few of them can be tied up (and in some cases mulched) by a dread, or the -2 toughness (Thurible + rad grenade) on the first round paired with the weight of attacks from the squad that the praetor is in.

Have you considered using heavy support squads or durak rask to better take advantage of the reaping? As is taking rad grenades on 2 tac squad sergeants in squads doesn't feel like it's enough to offset the disadvantages that come with it.

 Zuul wrote:
Have you considered using heavy support squads or durak rask to better take advantage of the reaping? As is taking rad grenades on 2 tac squad sergeants in squads doesn't feel like it's enough to offset the disadvantages that come with it.

I have, and I was debating taking an autocannon squad or two, though a reason I took the reaping was (once it was paired with the praetor's thurible) are generally good deterrents towards bit stabby squads

So far I prefer a missile squad for my main heavy support squad since it can infantry, armour, and flyers. Several flak missiles with tank hunters can certainly help keep the skies clear. Any squads beyond that one are usually focused on anti-armour.

 Zuul wrote:
So far I prefer a missile squad for my main heavy support squad since it can infantry, armour, and flyers. Several flak missiles with tank hunters can certainly help keep the skies clear. Any squads beyond that one are usually focused on anti-armour.

Oh,I like missile launchers, but autocannons looks so cool, and are typically a decent all-rounder. Also, volkite is always fun for just melting infantry squads