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With or without the formation do you guys think that playing necrons would be a cheesy move still like when they were first released or now since the drop of the new formation codexs are they now on par with the rest?

Well obviously with the releases of new guys like Eldar or Tau on the block the Necrons have more competition for what is considered the gold standard for cheese. Realistically speaking Necrons get a bad rep primarily because of the Decurion and the RP overhaul they got, because its very demoralizing for certain armies (i.e. guardsmen) to pour firepower into units and have it disregarded with that additional RP roll. Although the durability does fit the fluff in some ways, the lack of accessible or feasible ways to mitigate it, unlike the previous RP, makes it feel very uninteractive for the opponent. Eldar are on the flip side of that coin with their ability to make it feel uninteractive from their insane damage output, with strength D and scatter laser shots out the wazoo flat out deleting units before you can retaliate.

TL,DR, it's only "cheesy" in the sense that they're not that fun to play against most armies who haven't been given the 7.5 ed treatment. If you're playing SM, Eldar, Tau, you'll have a more level playing field, against guys like CSM or Dark Eldar it's a very uphill battle. Given that the majority of armies IMO haven't been updated yet to that standard (with long overdue ones like CSM), I would say yes...tentatively, it really depends on how competitive your meta is.

Really the only thing heinous necron formations is Cynoptek Harvest (because Wraiths were already really good, got T5 for no reason and now you're trying to give them RP) and Decurion. Honestly if it weren't for those two it wouldn't be that bad.

 CrownAxe wrote:
Really the only thing heinous necron formations is Cynoptek Harvest (because Wraiths were already really good, got T5 for no reason and now you're trying to give them RP) and Decurion. Honestly if it weren't for those two it wouldn't be that bad.

I have 6 wraiths I was going to use as a tarpit blob, my friend runs max TWC maxed out which slaughters anything so I want to null it out for as many rounds as possible. Besides that I just like the fluff and theme of them.
"TL,DR, it's only "cheesy" in the sense that they're not that fun to play against most armies who haven't been given the 7.5 ed treatment. If you're playing SM, Eldar, Tau"
my main opponent uses ad mec, SW and knights, at my store the theme seems to be custom SM chapters.

 cosmicsoybean wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
Really the only thing heinous necron formations is Cynoptek Harvest (because Wraiths were already really good, got T5 for no reason and now you're trying to give them RP) and Decurion. Honestly if it weren't for those two it wouldn't be that bad.

I have 6 wraiths I was going to use as a tarpit blob, my friend runs max TWC maxed out which slaughters anything so I want to null it out for as many rounds as possible. Besides that I just like the fluff and theme of them.
"TL,DR, it's only "cheesy" in the sense that they're not that fun to play against most armies who haven't been given the 7.5 ed treatment. If you're playing SM, Eldar, Tau"
my main opponent uses ad mec, SW and knights, at my store the theme seems to be custom SM chapters.

I think the general rule of thumb of go by when playing an army that's been updated to 7.5 standard;
1. Against opponents who also have a 7.5 book, (Vanillas, DA's, Eldar, Tau), everything is fair game as these books are for the most part quite level with each other.

2. Against opponents who have a 7th ed book, it depends on the kind of list they're going with. If they're going whole hog with Superfriends/allies and/or like to plonk down a hard core competitive list such as 4-5 Flyrants, then using your Decurion isn't over the top.
If however they're playing mono-dex, leave your better formations such as the Canoptek Harvest and especially the full Decurion detachment at home.

3. Against the poor mortals still stuck with a 6th edition book, (so just Chaos in general & Guard), don't ever use a Decurion or really any formations at all.
Again, if your opponent is playing one of the few top end lists these books can produce, then sure, ask them if they're okay with challenging a stronger list such as a Decurion. But really, even most basic formations are too much for these poor armies to handle, especially if your opponent is just playing with a themed/for fun list from these books.

Experiment 626 wrote:

 cosmicsoybean wrote:

 CrownAxe wrote:
Really the only thing heinous necron formations is Cynoptek Harvest (because Wraiths were already really good, got T5 for no reason and now you're trying to give them RP) and Decurion. Honestly if it weren't for those two it wouldn't be that bad.

I have 6 wraiths I was going to use as a tarpit blob, my friend runs max TWC maxed out which slaughters anything so I want to null it out for as many rounds as possible. Besides that I just like the fluff and theme of them.
"TL,DR, it's only "cheesy" in the sense that they're not that fun to play against most armies who haven't been given the 7.5 ed treatment. If you're playing SM, Eldar, Tau"
my main opponent uses ad mec, SW and knights, at my store the theme seems to be custom SM chapters.

I think the general rule of thumb of go by when playing an army that's been updated to 7.5 standard;
1. Against opponents who also have a 7.5 book, (Vanillas, DA's, Eldar, Tau), everything is fair game as these books are for the most part quite level with each other.

2. Against opponents who have a 7th ed book, it depends on the kind of list they're going with. If they're going whole hog with Superfriends/allies and/or like to plonk down a hard core competitive list such as 4-5 Flyrants, then using your Decurion isn't over the top.
If however they're playing mono-dex, leave your better formations such as the Canoptek Harvest and especially the full Decurion detachment at home.

3. Against the poor mortals still stuck with a 6th edition book, (so just Chaos in general & Guard), don't ever use a Decurion or really any formations at all.
Again, if your opponent is playing one of the few top end lists these books can produce, then sure, ask them if they're okay with challenging a stronger list such as a Decurion. But really, even most basic formations are too much for these poor armies to handle, especially if your opponent is just playing with a themed/for fun list from these books.

Seems like good guidelines, thanks!
My friend mostly runs 1 knight, 4-5 TWC beefed to the max, 1 troops with a land raider (weird, I know) 3 walkers and some 2 man squads of lascannons. I'm thinking of a mainly warrior/immortal army with some transports, a stalker and loads of Charnel scarabs (if its still legal)

I've never thought Necrons were OP at all when playing competitively. I think people complain because their base level (4+, 4+++) is really good and doesn't require any killer combinations, meaning in more casual games they are a pain.

Depends on your meta a lot too. Most people around here play 1500 which I think stops you getting the most out of the Decurion.