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Flower Picking Eldar Youth




Hey guys, so I was playing a game with my mates on the weekend and one of my friends just got this suit, he was saying he got a 2+ Invulnerable save, but because I haven't played for ages I didn't question it. I was fighting him in close combat if that changes anything to do with stealth too
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Auspicious Daemonic Herald





Ghostkeel only gives bonuses to cover saves, Cover saves are not invulnerable saves. You can't even use cover saves against close combat attacks.
   
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Stealthy Warhound Titan Princeps




Phoenix, AZ, USA

Ghostkeels have an inherent 2+ cover save in the open due to their special rules. In addition, they can take a 4++ invul save as wargear. That's it, nothing more.

SJ

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Longtime Dakkanaut





 jeffersonian000 wrote:
Ghostkeels have an inherent 2+ cover save in the open due to their special rules. In addition, they can take a 4++ invul save as wargear. That's it, nothing more.

SJ

This is also only partially true.

The Ghostkeel has a 2+ cover save in the open at ranges greater than 12", but it only has a 4+ cover save in the open at ranges of 12" or less. More so, it only has that good of a save as long as one of its stealth drones are alive, if both of those die, it goes to a 5+ and 6+ cover save respectively. I can see how someone can confuse cover saves with invulnerable saves, they do function somewhat the same in a lot of cases, it's just one is easy to ignore and can't be used in close combat.

Oh, and don't forget it can also have a 5+++ Feel No Pain save off of wargear too (Stimulant Injectors are love).

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