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I have a feeling that that question was asked before, but search function here is rather strange...

So in the modern Warhammer there are alot of instances when unit can contain models that can be pinned and models that can not. For example a charcter on bike joining a unit of infantry, or infantry models with monstous creture model make one unit (Criptechs + Ktan or Riptide with Drones). Can this unti be pinned? If it can does penalties for going down transfer to the models that can not be pinned? How do you play it?

Which rules stop pinning test being made (or pass them automatically)? I can think of fear, and the answer to that is in the fear rule clearly '... one or more models...'

You cannot pin a unit if a modl in the unit cannot be pinned, such as a bike

And what about going to ground? Can such units go to ground at all?

nosferatu1001 wrote:
You cannot pin a unit if a modl in the unit cannot be pinned, such as a bike

I'm curious as to where the rules specify that every model has to be able to be pinned in order for the unit to be pinned.

 Happyjew wrote:

nosferatu1001 wrote:
You cannot pin a unit if a modl in the unit cannot be pinned, such as a bike

I'm curious as to where the rules specify that every model has to be able to be pinned in order for the unit to be pinned.

They don't. They also don't specify that a unit can be still be pinned if it's of a mixed type, such as bikes and infantry.

It would need to be looked at on a case by case basis. Here's my thoughts on a couple:

Fearless says unit with at least one model, anything else that keeps models from being pinned would have to be looked at individually.

An IC on a bike becomes part of the unit "for all rules purposes". This is a very poorly written rule, and has lead to many headaches. If you take this to mean the IC becomes the same type as the unit it joins, then it can be pinned along with them. If not, then they can't be pinned, but the unit can, meaning the IC suffers no penalties, but the unit does. Nothing I can find would make the unit immune to pinning along with the IC.

If a unit has a mixed type natively, lets say hypothetically it's four infantry and a walker, then I can't find anything in rules to address this.

It cant become the same type, as you are then told about different movement rates with ICs.

If a member of the unit isnt pinned, can the unit be said to be pinned? Its a binary condition, surely?