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Hey guys, myself and a friend are playing a game in a week or so and he has mentioned smething about using a shattered legion. Im not too sure what the rules are though so could anyone enlighten me please?

They are a 30k faction so your best bet would probably be to check the 30k section of the forum to get your answer.If that doesn't help just asked to read through the book and talk to him about it before playing.

Is this the same friend that took a terminus ultra in his 30K Iron Warriors despite the only current version of that unit being in a 40K UM-only apoc formation? (whilst complaining that you took a shadowsword from a current book that wasn't the newest).

The rules do not exist yet. They're coming in the next 30k book, right now all we have is vague reports from people who saw the book at this weekend's event. I would not allow him to use those rules until they are officially released.

 Peregrine wrote:
The rules do not exist yet. They're coming in the next 30k book, right now all we have is vague reports from people who saw the book at this weekend's event. I would not allow him to use those rules until they are officially released.

Actually we have a fair bit more than that. We have photos taken directly from the new book.

http://i.imgur.com/TrPvVhe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4KA6uBK.jpg

(Not embedded because the photos are fething massive)

As said, it's for 30k and not 40k.
It's basically a Legion army where you choose the LA rule on a squad-basis, rather than for the whole army. Rites of War still apply so you can get some weird combinations sprouting up.
The penalty is a total inability to contest objectives, along with some penalties if the Warlord bites it. You also lose access to Legion-unique units unless you have a HQ choice to 'unlock' them.

Mozzamanx wrote:
Actually we have a fair bit more than that. We have photos taken directly from the new book.

Rules which may or may not be complete. It's enough to play with them in a friendly game if your opponent agrees, but they need to show you the new rules up front, explain what they are, and present it as "can we try using this unreleased stuff" instead of just assuming that they're allowed. And it sounds like the OP's opponent is trying to surprise the OP with something new, and has a habit of bending and/or breaking the rules to gain an advantage.

Mozzamanx wrote:

 Peregrine wrote:
The rules do not exist yet. They're coming in the next 30k book, right now all we have is vague reports from people who saw the book at this weekend's event. I would not allow him to use those rules until they are officially released.

Actually we have a fair bit more than that. We have photos taken directly from the new book.

http://i.imgur.com/TrPvVhe.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4KA6uBK.jpg

(Not embedded because the photos are fething massive)

As said, it's for 30k and not 40k.
It's basically a Legion army where you choose the LA rule on a squad-basis, rather than for the whole army. Rites of War still apply so you can get some weird combinations sprouting up.
The penalty is a total inability to contest objectives, along with some penalties if the Warlord bites it. You also lose access to Legion-unique units unless you have a HQ choice to 'unlock' them.

Thanks, I am reading them over now.
Given my friends past record for occasionally misinterpreting rules I just wanted to make sure that I knew them as well.

Peregrine wrote:

Mozzamanx wrote:
Actually we have a fair bit more than that. We have photos taken directly from the new book.

Rules which may or may not be complete. It's enough to play with them in a friendly game if your opponent agrees, but they need to show you the new rules up front, explain what they are, and present it as "can we try using this unreleased stuff" instead of just assuming that they're allowed. And it sounds like the OP's opponent is trying to surprise the OP with something new, and has a habit of bending and/or breaking the rules to gain an advantage.

I had a slight inkling that he may be trying to do so, hence why I asked here

Scott-S6 wrote:Is this the same friend that took a terminus ultra in his 30K Iron Warriors despite the only current version of that unit being in a 40K UM-only apoc formation? (whilst complaining that you took a shadowsword from a current book that wasn't the newest).

Yes.

So, guess this is a good a place as any; what do you guys think of the shattered legion rules? Cause they seem super good, tbh.

From what I have seen: Not nice. You can essentially pick and choose the best parts of several legions to tailor your list.

Given his past shenanigans I'd suggest telling him to ram it until everyone's had a chance to read the final and complete rules.

And don't forget the bitchslap for hypocrisy that I prescribed in the other thread.

 Scott-S6 wrote:
Given his past shenanigans I'd suggest telling him to ram it until everyone's had a chance to read the final and complete rules.

And don't forget the bitchslap for hypocrisy that I prescribed in the other thread.

Willco sir!