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**Nostromodamus**

I really like the Engine rules. Very quirky!

Vinnie just got unlocked too, but no updated SG list yet, I think they are probably asleep right now!

**Alpharius**

In Australia?!? They better not be!

I like the Engine rules too - I love any mini wargame that has cards in it too.

I think it is because I pretty much started this hobby with 40K 2nd, and I really did love that Psychic Phase!

**-Loki-**

Nostromodamus wrote:
I really like the Engine rules. Very quirky!

Vinnie just got unlocked too, but no updated SG list yet, I think they are probably asleep right now!

It's lunch time for them. They're probably having a beer and a meat pie.

**Nostromodamus**

Ah, I get my times mixed up when dealing with different hemispheres

Yeah 2nd ed. 40k was cool, but I doubt we'll have anything as awesome as vortex grenades here

**-Loki-**

This thread put me in the mood, so I built Nancy and started building Nightingale. I'll leave her wings off until she's painted.

Speaking of painting, I paint Infinity minis and these scare the living gak out of me. Detail doesn't even begin to describe it. Not GW style clutter either, just well thought out, sharp details. Like the etching on Nightingales wings, or the subtle folds and intricate lace patterns in Nancys dress.

This is seriously making me want to back.

**Twisted**

The nastiest piece of work in London arrives!

Vinnie, a rogue and general street thug has arrived in the world of Twisted!

This hard man works for the highest bidder and will put his guns and penchant for surprisingly efficient violence to work for any who have the coin (or other negotiable goods) to hire his services!

As a mercenary, part of The Guild of Harmony, he may be taken in Twisted by any faction - wielding his pipe to do 'orrible things to those his employer wants to be given "a good seeing to".

As we have had quite a number of requests for Vinnie in resin we have decided to make him a Kickstarter Exclusive model (Resin version only). The Metal one will be a general release later on, but still available early through the Kickstarter!

If you have already pledged add Vinnie in and if you haven't please do so (or we might send Vinnie 'round)

For any of you who have backed us - thanks you so much - it means a great deal to us both!

Cheers
Pete

**Mutter**

-Loki- wrote:
Can't comment on the price, they do seem a tad pricey for laser cut card, ...

Yeah, but even still, without a KS-discount, it's insanely expensive.

**-Loki-**

Mutter wrote:
-Loki- wrote:
Can't comment on the price, they do seem a tad pricey for laser cut card, ...

Yeah, but even still, without a KS-discount, it's insanely expensive.

Again - it's not their kickstarter. The terrain is by another company altogether. They're making licensed terrain, but they're (presumably) not getting money from this. They're still a business that wants to remain in business. Giving discounts during a kickstarter is a calculated risk you make knowing costs compared to what you hope to make in backing funds, which CNC aren't getting.

They're simply letting Demented also put their terrain in kickstarter packages, but still need their RRP on the items because that's the only way they're getting their money. The only way CNC could afford discounts is if Demented offered to reimburse through backer funds, which I'm assuming they aren't doing because they're putting all the money back into game and miniature development, which is what the kickstarter is for.

**Mutter**

-Loki- wrote:

Again - it's not their kickstarter. The terrain is by another company altogether.

Again - this isn't about it being a KS. Did you read what I wrote?
I'd be flabbergasted by that price in a normal shop, too.

Look at what (really elaborate and good-looking) resin bases cost, and compare that to the price of card-inlays.
Sorry ...

**insaniak**

Mutter wrote:
Look at what (really elaborate and good-looking) resin bases cost, and compare that to the price of card-inlays.

If I were actually interested in buying base detail made by someone else, I'd happily pay more for something that results in the bases not having a flat bottom that doesn't stand properly on uneven terrain. Resin bases look pretty for display, but are a pain to actually game with.

**-Loki-**

Mutter wrote:
Again - this isn't about it being a KS. Did you read what I wrote?
I'd be flabbergasted by that price in a normal shop, too.

Look at what (really elaborate and good-looking) resin bases cost, and compare that to the price of card-inlays.
Sorry ...

Not defending the price at all, but it really does cost more to produce stuff in Australia. That's why so many Australian companies get their production done overseas.

**Twisted**

The Egyptian Expansion Set Revealed!

This wonderful set of miniatures includes the imposing and powerful Avatar of Set along with a couple of brand new Characters for Twisted who's design will remain secret for the moment! It also includes three more Guardians of Set to bolster your Egyptian force!

We have spent a great deal of time reading the comments of our backers, pondering and doing the sums and we have now decided to listen to what you want and make the Egyptian Boxed Sets both official Faction Boxes in terms of the Kickstarter Campaign!

This means you can select them as Faction Boxes for any of the main Pledge Levels along with the Dickensians and the Servants of The Engine!

Please be aware though that as of today only Carter is sculpted so these sets won't ship for an estimated 3 to 6 months after the main pledges go out.

We will work as hard and fast as we can on them and the fantastic support we have had so far will go a long way to speeding things up but quality takes time and there is one thing we will never compromise on at Demented Games and that is quality!

So encourage your friends to join in and we can unlock this fantastic set faster and reveal the really great stuff that is coming behind it! Spread the news!
The Egyptians are coming!

For more information check out the main Kickstarter page!
Twisted kickstarter

**.Mikes.**

Well now, three factions? Now we're talking.

**Nostromodamus**

Also a free Tinkerbelle at $95k!

Demented Games is knocking it out of the park with this one. Bloody amazing characters and world on offer here, and from what we've heard of the gameplay (more coming soon) it sounds very interesting to play as well.

**Alpharius**

Nostromodamus wrote:
Also a free Tinkerbelle at $95k!

Demented Games is knocking it out of the park with this one. Bloody amazing characters and world on offer here, and from what we've heard of the gameplay (more coming soon) it sounds very interesting to play as well.

Couldn't agree more!

New update!

Update #16

Feb 22 2016
The Gamekeeper Takes Shape!
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Thanks to your fantastic support we’ve been able to schedule a bunch of new Characters for sculpting!

We thought you might like to see some of the sculpting work currently in progress for Twisted. Production is well underway for the remaining miniatures in the Faction Box sets: Stéphane Camosseto is currently working on the Gentlefolk Gamekeeper, David Ayral (Anakron) is in the process of sculpting the Gentlefolk Teacher, and Sebastian Archer himself has already started work on the Gentlefolk Lancer!

We’ll start with the Gentlefolk Gamekeeper. First, here’s a shot of the final concept artwork developed by Macs Gallo. Peter came up with the original idea for the Gamekeeper and did some initial sketching, and then after 4 or 5 draft stages we came up with this final concept artwork. Another brilliant, fun Character for Twisted!

Now let’s take a look at the sculpting progress on the Gamekeeper miniature, being hand-sculpted by the very talented Stéphane Camosseto.

The first image below shows the early stages of sculpting work for the Gamekeeper: you can see the wire armature Stéphane has created to build around. Then in the image on the right, you can see the early progress as the rough forms of the miniature have been filled out.

This next image shows the Gamekeeper at a more advanced stage in the sculpting process – he is currently around ¾ complete. It’s really starting to take shape: look at the amazing filigree details Stéphane has added to the legs, the sharpness of the face and other details – it’s going to be another amazing miniature when it’s finished!

Next update we will focus more on the rules for Twisted. We'll be starting with an overview of the turn sequence and discussing the Character Activation system! Stay tuned!

**Nostromodamus**

Cool stuff! Looking forward to seeing the others.

Also looking forward to seeing the concept art for the female Indiana Jones and "Horace" (Horus) models for the Egyptian faction.

Almost got the base insert SG unlocked!

**spiralingcadaver**

Y'know, the game almost had me until I saw the "$1,000 for a 35mm mini paint job" level. It actually really turned me off. Felt ego-tripping enough that I decided I didn't need another steampunk game.

**Nostromodamus**

The guys seem very humble and thankful from my communications with them, never got that vibe at all.

**Alpharius**

Well, that's still 'only' $851US, and it includes everything at the "Launcelot" level, which is a $135US pledge, so I guess that's, again, 'only' $716US for a mini painted by Sebastian Archer (I'll admit I don't know who he is).

And it is limited to 2 backers - and they're both already taken.

Seems like an odd thing to get upset about, but yeah, different strokes and all that!

**Nostromodamus**

Alpharius wrote:
$716US for a mini painted by Sebastian Archer (I'll admit I don't know who he is).

One of the creators of Twisted. Painter and sculptor. Golden Daemon winner. Very pleasant chap whenever I've spoken to him.

**-Loki-**

Alpharius wrote:
for a mini painted by Sebastian Archer (I'll admit I don't know who he is).

Sebastian Archer is one of the co creators of the game and one of the sculptors. He's also a great painter, and I assume the one that paints the studio minis.

SC is right though - $1000au is pretty steep for a single 35mm model.

**.Mikes.**

Alpharius wrote:
Seems like an odd thing to get upset about,

Welcome to the internet!

**Alpharius**

-Loki- wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
for a mini painted by Sebastian Archer (I'll admit I don't know who he is).

Sebastian Archer is one of the co creators of the game and one of the sculptors. He's also a great painter, and I assume the one that paints the studio minis.

SC is right though - $1000au is pretty steep for a single 35mm model.

It certainly is, but so are a lot of other expensive things I can't afford!

.Mikes. wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
Seems like an odd thing to get upset about,

Welcome to the internet!

Fair enough!

**-Loki-**

Alpharius wrote:
-Loki- wrote:
Alpharius wrote:
for a mini painted by Sebastian Archer (I'll admit I don't know who he is).

Sebastian Archer is one of the co creators of the game and one of the sculptors. He's also a great painter, and I assume the one that paints the studio minis.

SC is right though - $1000au is pretty steep for a single 35mm model.

It certainly is, but so are a lot of other expensive things I can't afford!

I'm certainly not begrudging them having the option there. If someone wants to pay a grand to have a model professionally painted, go nuts. Just saying that looking at the market rate for an infantry sized model painted to a commision painters top quality, the price is absurd. But people have found worth int it since two people have taken it, so more power to them.

**spiralingcadaver**

-Loki- wrote:
looking at the market rate[...] the price is absurd. But people have found worth int it since two people have taken it, so more power to them.

My old home town's gotten known for $5 toast, and in new york there's a trend of $10-ish for a cup of soup broth... separating idiots from their money just frustrates me, not because of the idiots losing their money, but those taking it exploiting their idiocy...

**cincydooley**

It's not far off from what I've seen from other multiple golden demon painters and their commission prices.

Top artists deserve to be paid for their time and effort.

**-Loki-**

To be fair I wasn't looking at people who have won global painting competitions like Golden Daemon for commission prices, so if those guys charge up there, then pay me no mind.

**Alpharius**

Excellent update on turn structure here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1884748152/twisted-a-steampunk-miniatures-game/posts/1499475

I'm liking that!

**Nostromodamus**

Alpharius wrote:
Excellent update on turn structure here:

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1884748152/twisted-a-steampunk-miniatures-game/posts/1499475

I'm liking that!

Yeah, it's quite different from anything else I play. Should be very fun!

**-Loki-**

Sounds a lot like Malifaux, just swapping drawing a hand for drawing Engine cards and deciding the entire lists activation order in advance but unknown to the other player.