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new to orks my first list
kaptin badrukk

10 shoota boys
1 big shoota nob pk bp

10 shoota boys
1 big shoota nob pk bp

2 deff dreads
1 big shoota 1 kustom mega blasta

suggestions please what are your thoughts on mass gretchins I will be playng against khorne daemons tau and skittarii

1) Kaptin Badrukk is quite poor. You would really want an AV 2+ character in front of your boyz squads to tank shooting hits before you make it in. Maybe a big Mek who can also repair your Deff dread! Or let me suggest you try getting the Ork Start Collecting box, which contains most of your list at a nice discount! You get a Mad Dok (a great Hq), a boyz squad, a Deff dread and a nob squad!

2) the KMB is pretty risky on a Deff dread. As he is only BS 2 the odds of him hurting himself with Gets Hot far outweigh the benefit of the gun! Quite simply I recommend more combat arms, more better on dreads!

3) mass gretchins is a thing you can do if paired with a Stompa Lord of War, however their low leadership otherwise will sink their boat! I love gretchins for filling up a troop choice and holding objectives though.

Were I to take your list and make the best 1000 point list I could think of with it, I would get transports for your boyz in the form of 2 trukks, and add a squad of Tankbusta boyz in a Trukk or looted wagon. Either that or some Meganobz-great for adding some punch to your army, and very good right out of the base kit.

Thnx for help who is the best 2 up tank/tanks
And do you think a cc deff dread will make it into a tau army my feind bought start collecting tau


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Does the start collecting come with all the bits like the individual sets

Replace badruk with a mega armour big mek with kustom force field. He can protect the dreads and lots of the boys while advancing and tank 2up saves.
OR a warboss in mega armour with lucky stick. He can't take a kff but he's more survivable and gives you a bit more speed with a waaagh which you'll need.
Make your 2 Shoota boyz squads 1 unit 20 and get a unit of grots.

The best 2 up tank is a Warboss wearing mega armor equipped with Da Lukky Stikk artifact, for a 2+, rerollable armor save.

Start collecting does indeed come with all the bitz it is the standard kit sprues for a hefty discount (in this case the Deff dread is free basically)

The Deff dread if equipped properly (with grot riggers) should be ok vs basic tau stuff and if not will require them to get close to kill him so you can charge them.

What are your thoughts on
Big mek
30 shoota boys
2 big shootas 1 nob pk bp
1 deff dred
2 big shootas
3 killa kans
Rokkits
500 points suggestions wanted thnx for advice


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What are your thoughts on
Big mek
30 shoota boys
2 big shootas 1 nob ok BP
1 deff dred
2 big shootas
3 killa kans
Rokkits
500 points suggestions wanted thnx for advice

You've got me in this list!

Finally! I've been waiting for someone to put me in a list.

OK, all that aside, his gun is likely to kill him. But if you must use him, I'm not stopping you.

Skull729 wrote:
What are your thoughts on
Big mek
30 shoota boys
2 big shootas 1 nob pk bp
1 deff dred
2 big shootas
3 killa kans
Rokkits
500 points suggestions wanted thnx for advice


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What are your thoughts on
Big mek
30 shoota boys
2 big shootas 1 nob ok BP
1 deff dred
2 big shootas
3 killa kans
Rokkits
500 points suggestions wanted thnx for advice

Big mek - needs an upgrade like shokk attack gun or kustom force field - usual tactics are to stick him in a stompa to repair it since 5++ from the forcefield is not the greatest (I really like taking one with a shokk attack gun though - super fun)

I would take a warboss in mega armor with a lucky stikk and put him at the front of the 30 shoota boyz - this gives you a rerollable 2+ save to tank all the hits on the unit, and if you get hit with ap2 weapon you can look-out-sir onto one of the other guys. This works well with shoota boyz because mega armor boss cannot run so the unit cannot run.

Big shootas are ok and I still take them - but generally rockits are considered better.

Deff dread is not bad with an extra arm and a flamer - but he is not good at shooting, you will probably want to run him anyway instead of shooting, and expect him to die before he does anything because he is not that hard to kill and brutal if he actually gets into combat.

Killa kans unfortunately are not that great - very easy to kill and not that fast.

Some orky advice:

Warbikers and deffkoptas are some of our best units because they are fast and durable - so they can grab objectives.

Tankbusta squads are amazing these days - they can take out big targets fast with str8 ap3 rockits and when they assault they all have melta bomb like weapons.

Checkout the Ork Dread Mob army list from forgeworld - there are a lot of toys you probobly don't know about in there.

http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:29Lg5Ds5u00J:www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/fw_site/fw_pdfs/Warhammer_40000/Ork_Dread_Mob_Army_List_Update.pdf+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca

Mainly

zhadsnark ‘da rippa’ - an HQ warboss on a bike that attacks at init with a klaw, can turbo 24" and can tank shokk, and makes all warbikers troops with objective secured

Mek Boss BuzzgoB - 100 points +300 option and you get a stompa.....for 400 points event ITC tournaments says this is legal

Thnx but where do you get the rules for all da shiny dakka
And I took the big shootas to gun down tau drones I will be playing against the start collecting tau and skittarii