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2016/02/22 21:31:23
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
2016/02/22 21:36:39
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
Kanluwen wrote: One complaint that might seem a bit strange(the complaint included the passenger "jumping out of the car when it was stopped") isn't really going to strike them as a priority, especially if they had the guy's license plate, car make & model, etc.
He was an Uber driver. Not only do they have that information on record, but they also have a way of tracking the vehicle.
How many complaints should it take before an erratic driver damaging property is considered actionable by the police?
Ostensibly, it should only take one--but remember that cops actually have other things to take care of than just property damage.
The reality is, if nobody gets hurt it isn't really going to be a priority. In any regards if it took just one--do you know how often petty, vindictive people would be calling cops on drivers that piss them off on the road? Not that they don't already do such a thing--which is WHY COPS DON'T TAKE SINGLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
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2016/02/22 21:39:41
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
While the discussion concerning probable cause, warrants and electronic information held by private companies is no doubt a fascinating topic (see the Apple case over the San Bernardino shootings) it is at best a side bar for this discussion. The erratic driving that prompted a passenger to jump out of the vehicle, coupled with hitting other cars would suggest that at the very least the LEOs had sufficient reason to want to speak with the driver. It will be interesting to see if the police are asked about what happened in that hour.
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Kanluwen wrote: Ostensibly, it should only take one--but remember that cops actually have other things to take care of than just property damage.
Which is why I have said that it will be interesting to see if the LEOs make any statement about what happened in the hour between the report and the first shooting. There may have been other reports that took priority. There may have been a gap in communication.
Kanluwen wrote: The reality is, if nobody gets hurt it isn't really going to be a priority. In any regards if it took just one--do you know how often petty, vindictive people would be calling cops on drivers that piss them off on the road? Not that they don't already do such a thing--which is WHY COPS DON'T TAKE SINGLE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THINGS LIKE THIS SERIOUSLY.
If the report of his driving and hitting other vehicles was reported then the damage (assuming the report was correct) is easily verifiable.
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2016/02/22 22:59:44
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
Kanluwen wrote: One complaint that might seem a bit strange(the complaint included the passenger "jumping out of the car when it was stopped") isn't really going to strike them as a priority, especially if they had the guy's license plate, car make & model, etc.
He was an Uber driver. Not only do they have that information on record, but they also have a way of tracking the vehicle.
How many complaints should it take before an erratic driver damaging property is considered actionable by the police?
d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
While the discussion concerning probable cause, warrants and electronic information held by private companies is no doubt a fascinating topic (see the Apple case over the San Bernardino shootings) it is at best a side bar for this discussion. The erratic driving that prompted a passenger to jump out of the vehicle, coupled with hitting other cars would suggest that at the very least the LEOs had sufficient reason to want to speak with the driver. It will be interesting to see if the police are asked about what happened in that hour.
You brought up the fact that he worked for Uber and that he could be tracked and asked how many complaints it should take before it is considered actionable by the police. I replied "more than one, probably". Now it's just an interesting sidebar.
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2016/02/22 23:04:48
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
Kanluwen wrote: One complaint that might seem a bit strange(the complaint included the passenger "jumping out of the car when it was stopped") isn't really going to strike them as a priority, especially if they had the guy's license plate, car make & model, etc.
He was an Uber driver. Not only do they have that information on record, but they also have a way of tracking the vehicle.
How many complaints should it take before an erratic driver damaging property is considered actionable by the police?
d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
While the discussion concerning probable cause, warrants and electronic information held by private companies is no doubt a fascinating topic (see the Apple case over the San Bernardino shootings) it is at best a side bar for this discussion. The erratic driving that prompted a passenger to jump out of the vehicle, coupled with hitting other cars would suggest that at the very least the LEOs had sufficient reason to want to speak with the driver. It will be interesting to see if the police are asked about what happened in that hour.
You brought up the fact that he worked for Uber and that he could be tracked and asked how many complaints it should take before it is considered actionable by the police. I replied "more than one, probably". Now it's just an interesting sidebar.
I don't know what I expected...
You are confusing the lines of discussion. Allow me to assist you;
- I said that he can be tracked, I never speculated as to whether or not he should be tracked
- I asked how many complaints should the police receive before investigating reports of an erratic driver. You misinterpreted this as asking how many complaints should it take to present a warrant to Uber for their data.
Now I hope those misunderstanding have been resolved for you.
2016/02/23 01:04:09
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
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d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
Yeah, one complaint doesn't make something a priority. I'd bet the police in any city get at least half a dozen(probably way more actually) calls of erratic driving every day.
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d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
Yeah, one complaint doesn't make something a priority. I'd bet the police in any city get at least half a dozen(probably way more actually) calls of erratic driving every day.
I had a guy drive into my lane, almost run into me, and force me to drive into the concrete lane barrier to avoid him (which luckily bounced me back into the road and didn't do any damage).
I called 911 to report it, and it took 3 hours, multiple calls, and being passed around to three different jurisdictions (city, county, and Highway Patrol arguing about whose jurisdiction it was because they didn't want to deal with it) before the Highway Patrol finally came out to talk to me only to tell me that there is nothing they can do with a report of "drove me off the road" because without any actual proof they will just deny it and it will be a "he said/he said" kind of situation.
I think in our city the police might not even respond to routine accidents without injuries if they are busy and just tell people to exchange information and take pictures and let their insurance handle it.
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2016/02/23 01:21:59
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
Yeah, one complaint doesn't make something a priority. I'd bet the police in any city get at least half a dozen(probably way more actually) calls of erratic driving every day.
I had a guy drive into my lane, almost run into me, and force me to drive into the concrete lane barrier to avoid him (which luckily bounced me back into the road and didn't do any damage).
I called 911 to report it, and it took 3 hours, multiple calls, and being passed around to three different jurisdictions (city, county, and Highway Patrol arguing about whose jurisdiction it was because they didn't want to deal with it) before the Highway Patrol finally came out to talk to me only to tell me that there is nothing they can do with a report of "drove me off the road" because without any actual proof they will just deny it and it will be a "he said/he said" kind of situation.
I think in our city the police might not even respond to routine accidents without injuries if they are busy and just tell people to exchange information and take pictures and let their insurance handle it.
To tell the truth, its less messy if the police aren't involved usually. Especially if its a minor accident and no injuries are involved, because they tell you to go get checked out anyway which opens up a huge can o worms.
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d-usa wrote: It should take more than one complaint about erratic driving for the police to get access to a private companies data in order to get access to your phone and track your location.
Yeah, one complaint doesn't make something a priority. I'd bet the police in any city get at least half a dozen(probably way more actually) calls of erratic driving every day.
I had a guy drive into my lane, almost run into me, and force me to drive into the concrete lane barrier to avoid him (which luckily bounced me back into the road and didn't do any damage).
I called 911 to report it, and it took 3 hours, multiple calls, and being passed around to three different jurisdictions (city, county, and Highway Patrol arguing about whose jurisdiction it was because they didn't want to deal with it) before the Highway Patrol finally came out to talk to me only to tell me that there is nothing they can do with a report of "drove me off the road" because without any actual proof they will just deny it and it will be a "he said/he said" kind of situation.
I think in our city the police might not even respond to routine accidents without injuries if they are busy and just tell people to exchange information and take pictures and let their insurance handle it.
To tell the truth, its less messy if the police aren't involved usually. Especially if its a minor accident and no injuries are involved, because they tell you to go get checked out anyway which opens up a huge can o worms.
They can tell you to go get checked out but they cannot in any way force you to go get checked out. There is no can o worms there.
2016/02/23 02:08:27
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
They can tell you to go get checked out but they cannot in any way force you to go get checked out. There is no can o worms there.
Having them there usually ends with someone going to the hospital though, just because liability makes it dangerous to talk anybody out of going to the hospital. Usually it goes like this:
Somebody: Officer, do you think I should get checked out.
Officer: I can't really say that you shouldn't.
Somebody: Do you think I need an ambulance.
Officer: I can't really say that you don't.
Somebody: The cop thinks I should take the ambulance to the ER!
Officer: *sigh*
2016/02/23 02:12:40
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
They can tell you to go get checked out but they cannot in any way force you to go get checked out. There is no can o worms there.
Having them there usually ends with someone going to the hospital though, just because liability makes it dangerous to talk anybody out of going to the hospital. Usually it goes like this:
Somebody: Officer, do you think I should get checked out.
Officer: I can't really say that you shouldn't.
Somebody: Do you think I need an ambulance.
Officer: I can't really say that you don't.
Somebody: The cop thinks I should take the ambulance to the ER!
Officer: *sigh*
But that is not the Officers fault. That is more of an issue with people not knowing what is going on or being in shock after an accident.
2016/02/23 08:33:35
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
If the policeman is trained in first aid he can make a sensible judgement about whether to call an ambulance. If not, he's no better placed to make this judgement than a random bystander.
In terms of calling the police for erratic driving, I bet it happens all the time. Without clear details of the car model, colour and number plate the police can't even know if it's the same driver. People are projecting back from their knowledge of the events that transpired, to ask why the man wasn't stopped earlier.
Kilkrazy wrote: If the policeman is trained in first aid he can make a sensible judgement about whether to call an ambulance. If not, he's no better placed to make this judgement than a random bystander.
In terms of calling the police for erratic driving, I bet it happens all the time. Without clear details of the car model, colour and number plate the police can't even know if it's the same driver. People are projecting back from their knowledge of the events that transpired, to ask why the man wasn't stopped earlier.
This, and the fact that WMU, our local university, has had problems as of late with students being robbed on campus. Hell, the very next day someone shot another person on campus! The weekends are usually a busy time for police on, and near, campus.
The downtown Kalamazoo (K-Zoo) area that this mostly happened in is comprised of college students or at best lower-middle class families. So one erratic driver call doesn't get priority unless they see the person in the act of driving erratically.
The alleged shooter, Jason Dalton, took 6 hours to finally catch because he was not acting in any sort of pattern that could indicate where he was heading. Hell, mass shootings have usually happened in one location when they do occur. So, immediately the cops were not aware the shootings were connected until they started to get witnesses.
Edit: This article from CNN points out one of Dalton's fares said he remembers him driving a silver Equinox when he got a ride from him. Then later, the police picked up Dalton in a dark colored HHR. So that could also have made it harder for police to find him on top of all the other factors I mentioned above.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/02/23/us/kalamazoo-michigan-shootings/index.html
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2016/03/15 18:58:24
Subject: Re:Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
KALAMAZOO, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - Newschannel 3 continues to learn disturbing details about what was going on in the mind of suspected shooter Jason Dalton. Dalton is accused of killing six people and injuring two others in a shooting rampage through Kalamazoo. According to police reports issued through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) on Monday, Dalton tells investigators his Uber app was controlling him.
Monday Newschannel 3 also heard from Kalamazoo County Prosecutor Jeff Getting, and got his thoughts on the case. "I don't know that there could ever be an acceptable explanation," he said. "Certainly not one that makes sense."
Getting says he doesn't ever remember being this angry about a case. He says he's had to struggle with how someone could do this to his community.
According to details in the police investigation reports, Dalton tells police his actions were the result of the Uber app controlling him. Dalton told investigators the app made him feel like a puppet. The report said quote "Dalton explained that when the symbol turns to black, it literally has control over you."
The reports states that symbol was the Eastern Star and a devil head. In the report, Dalton told investigators that when the devil popped up on his screen, that's when the problems started. Quote "Dalton described the devil figure as a horned cow head or something like that and then it would give you an assignment and it would literally take over your whole body."
"This is something that happened because he wanted it to happen," Getting said. "Beyond that, I'm not sure we'll ever get a good enough explanation."
Getting goes on to say he's never seen a case like this in terms of community impact. He says the support this community and victims have felt since the shootings has been incredible to witness. That support and that love will hopefully overpower any disturbing explanations that come forth.
Dalton is undergoing a competency evaluation to see if he is mentally fit to stand trial. Getting says he and his team are ready whatever the results. He says they would be ready for trial today if they had to. Getting also says he has personally met with all of the shooting victims. He says they were all told about the FOIA release, so they could be prepared.
So, in short, he is claiming the devil made him do it...
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2016/03/15 19:46:15
Subject: Re:Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
KALAMAZOO, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - Newschannel 3 continues to learn disturbing details about what was going on in the mind of suspected shooter Jason Dalton. Dalton is accused of killing six people and injuring two others in a shooting rampage through Kalamazoo. According to police reports issued through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) on Monday, Dalton tells investigators his Uber app was controlling him.
Monday Newschannel 3 also heard from Kalamazoo County Prosecutor Jeff Getting, and got his thoughts on the case. "I don't know that there could ever be an acceptable explanation," he said. "Certainly not one that makes sense."
Getting says he doesn't ever remember being this angry about a case. He says he's had to struggle with how someone could do this to his community.
According to details in the police investigation reports, Dalton tells police his actions were the result of the Uber app controlling him. Dalton told investigators the app made him feel like a puppet. The report said quote "Dalton explained that when the symbol turns to black, it literally has control over you."
The reports states that symbol was the Eastern Star and a devil head. In the report, Dalton told investigators that when the devil popped up on his screen, that's when the problems started. Quote "Dalton described the devil figure as a horned cow head or something like that and then it would give you an assignment and it would literally take over your whole body."
"This is something that happened because he wanted it to happen," Getting said. "Beyond that, I'm not sure we'll ever get a good enough explanation."
Getting goes on to say he's never seen a case like this in terms of community impact. He says the support this community and victims have felt since the shootings has been incredible to witness. That support and that love will hopefully overpower any disturbing explanations that come forth.
Dalton is undergoing a competency evaluation to see if he is mentally fit to stand trial. Getting says he and his team are ready whatever the results. He says they would be ready for trial today if they had to. Getting also says he has personally met with all of the shooting victims. He says they were all told about the FOIA release, so they could be prepared.
So, in short, he is claiming the devil made him do it...
In today's climate, it's so damn easy to just fake being crazy by saying a bunch of made-up gak... Then you can look forward to the loonie left turning you into their newest poster child for mental health issues, get off scot free from any criminal charges, and spend a good few years in a cushy little psych ward.
It's really getting to the point that "I'm depressed/crazy/mentally ill" is the new form of "cry police brutality" defense.
2016/03/15 21:38:01
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Updated 3/15/16)
KALAMAZOO, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - Newschannel 3 continues to learn disturbing details about what was going on in the mind of suspected shooter Jason Dalton. Dalton is accused of killing six people and injuring two others in a shooting rampage through Kalamazoo. According to police reports issued through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) on Monday, Dalton tells investigators his Uber app was controlling him.
Monday Newschannel 3 also heard from Kalamazoo County Prosecutor Jeff Getting, and got his thoughts on the case. "I don't know that there could ever be an acceptable explanation," he said. "Certainly not one that makes sense."
Getting says he doesn't ever remember being this angry about a case. He says he's had to struggle with how someone could do this to his community.
According to details in the police investigation reports, Dalton tells police his actions were the result of the Uber app controlling him. Dalton told investigators the app made him feel like a puppet. The report said quote "Dalton explained that when the symbol turns to black, it literally has control over you."
The reports states that symbol was the Eastern Star and a devil head. In the report, Dalton told investigators that when the devil popped up on his screen, that's when the problems started. Quote "Dalton described the devil figure as a horned cow head or something like that and then it would give you an assignment and it would literally take over your whole body."
"This is something that happened because he wanted it to happen," Getting said. "Beyond that, I'm not sure we'll ever get a good enough explanation."
Getting goes on to say he's never seen a case like this in terms of community impact. He says the support this community and victims have felt since the shootings has been incredible to witness. That support and that love will hopefully overpower any disturbing explanations that come forth.
Dalton is undergoing a competency evaluation to see if he is mentally fit to stand trial. Getting says he and his team are ready whatever the results. He says they would be ready for trial today if they had to. Getting also says he has personally met with all of the shooting victims. He says they were all told about the FOIA release, so they could be prepared.
So, in short, he is claiming the devil made him do it...
I don't instantly recall but did he have prior mental health concerns?
2016/03/16 03:37:07
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Updated 3/15/16)
Normally I guess skinny white guy with left leaning background and health issues, and normally I am right, but after this past year I may need to introduce a random chance for racist with a bowl cut and muslim couple with pipe bombs...
What even is america anymore where I have turned this into a game?
The west is on its death spiral.
It was a good run.
2016/03/16 19:35:47
Subject: Re:Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Shooter was Uber driver taking fares between shootings)
KALAMAZOO, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - Newschannel 3 continues to learn disturbing details about what was going on in the mind of suspected shooter Jason Dalton. Dalton is accused of killing six people and injuring two others in a shooting rampage through Kalamazoo. According to police reports issued through the Freedom Of Information Act (FOIA) on Monday, Dalton tells investigators his Uber app was controlling him.
Monday Newschannel 3 also heard from Kalamazoo County Prosecutor Jeff Getting, and got his thoughts on the case. "I don't know that there could ever be an acceptable explanation," he said. "Certainly not one that makes sense."
Getting says he doesn't ever remember being this angry about a case. He says he's had to struggle with how someone could do this to his community.
According to details in the police investigation reports, Dalton tells police his actions were the result of the Uber app controlling him. Dalton told investigators the app made him feel like a puppet. The report said quote "Dalton explained that when the symbol turns to black, it literally has control over you."
The reports states that symbol was the Eastern Star and a devil head. In the report, Dalton told investigators that when the devil popped up on his screen, that's when the problems started. Quote "Dalton described the devil figure as a horned cow head or something like that and then it would give you an assignment and it would literally take over your whole body."
"This is something that happened because he wanted it to happen," Getting said. "Beyond that, I'm not sure we'll ever get a good enough explanation."
Getting goes on to say he's never seen a case like this in terms of community impact. He says the support this community and victims have felt since the shootings has been incredible to witness. That support and that love will hopefully overpower any disturbing explanations that come forth.
Dalton is undergoing a competency evaluation to see if he is mentally fit to stand trial. Getting says he and his team are ready whatever the results. He says they would be ready for trial today if they had to. Getting also says he has personally met with all of the shooting victims. He says they were all told about the FOIA release, so they could be prepared.
So, in short, he is claiming the devil made him do it...
I don't instantly recall but did he have prior mental health concerns?
That's the thing, he doesn't have any documented conditions. What is known is that he had two previous jobs as claims adjusters and left, quit/fired, both of them not on good terms. So, to me that says history of anger issues.
I have a feeling this reasoning of devil made me do it won't fly. I can see his attorneys try to spin this as a hard working man who was under a lot of pressure and finally snapped because he felt trapped by his phone/job.
Well, by that reasoning, I feel trapped by a lot of things I can't avoid, unlike a phone. But we will see how things will play out. He is going in for evaluation to see if he is competent to stand trail.
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2016/03/17 02:06:03
Subject: Re:Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Updated 3/15/16)
Depending on what evidence he argues he could potentially be successful.
Though I'm not sure what he could hope to gain, he's not likely to see the outside of a jail cell ever again so any settlement he gets isn't going to do him much good.
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Depending on what evidence he argues he could potentially be successful.
Though I'm not sure what he could hope to gain, he's not likely to see the outside of a jail cell ever again so any settlement he gets isn't going to do him much good.
Other than another play from the insanity defense playbook, I don't either.
If he were on the "inside", I would say with certainty that he was just trying to game the system, or make an annoyance of himself.
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2016/03/17 14:36:13
Subject: Re:Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Updated 3/15/16)
Depending on what evidence he argues he could potentially be successful.
Though I'm not sure what he could hope to gain, he's not likely to see the outside of a jail cell ever again so any settlement he gets isn't going to do him much good.
Other than another play from the insanity defense playbook, I don't either.
If he were on the "inside", I would say with certainty that he was just trying to game the system, or make an annoyance of himself.
If what I am hearing is true, he is going to represent himself in the lawsuit against Uber.
He is trying for that insanity plea pretty hard. I am sure he knows he doesn't have a case against Uber but this makes his excuse for the shooting look more legit. He still has to go through a psych exam and honestly if he feels competent enough to represent himself in a separate lawsuit then he is competent enough to stand trial without an insanity plea.
KALAMAZOO COUNTY, Mich. (NEWSCHANNEL 3) - The Kalamazoo County Undersheriff says that a lawsuit allegedly filed by accused mass murderer Jason Dalton is a hoax.
The alleged suit asked for $10-million against Uber, claiming the company caused him emotional distress.
The Kalamazoo County Undersheriff tells us that Dalton did not send the suit and does not know who sent it. They have confirmed that the handwriting is not his and the postmark on the lawsuit was from Philadelphia.
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2016/03/20 00:01:39
Subject: Random shooter in Kalamazoo, MI. 6 dead. (Updated 3/15/16)
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Hmmm, that's a new type of practical joke. Filing a false suit on behalf of a deranged lunatic.
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