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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/24 23:04:54
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Autarchs can be equipped with a wide variety of wargear and relics, I am wondering how people use their Autarchs and what they equip them with, doesn't need to be efficient or tournament worthy but can be
I often equip mine with Wings, Banshee Mask, Shard of Anaris and Phoenix Gem and use him as a harassment unit, usually deep striking in with Swooping Hawks for no scatter. Then breaks off to suicide charge squads and when he does die explodes with the Phoenix gem, the 18" movement is very good too. Haywire and plasma grenades are why I don't take a ranged weapons
A Skyrunner Autarch with laser lance and Banshee Mask effective in Skyrunner seer councils, is the reaper launcher worth the points when relentless on a jetbike do people find?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 02:02:42
Subject: Re:Autarch tactics thread
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Honestly the best use I've found for the Autarch is the 2+ reserve roll. Otherwise she kind of sucks.
She is not enough of a beatstick to harass most units. If you use her aggressively, you will give up 'Slay the Warlord'.
To make her even reasonably decent in CC, you have to dump at least 45 points into her (wings plus weapon) topping her at about 115 points for a moderate (at best) CC unit.
In armies with massive reserve, she can be useful -- but otherwise just take a farseer.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 02:14:04
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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You can equip them with a Dark Reaper cannon thing and then a bike for a on-the-move Rocket Launcher?
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 05:30:47
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Warplord Titan Princeps of Tzeentch
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I prefer the warp spider rocket launcher personally.
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can neither confirm nor deny I lost track of what I've got right now. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 11:58:29
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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While she is highly mobile like that, she still is waaaay overpriced for the shooting. Point for point, you would be better off just buying more warp spiders or reapers :\
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 12:28:15
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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labmouse42 wrote:While she is highly mobile like that, she still is waaaay overpriced for the shooting. Point for point, you would be better off just buying more warp spiders or reapers :\
If you were taking her for purely shooting and mobility you are losing a lot of the efficiency. However if you have any reserves the cost is more justified. But 25pts is quite a hefty fee, I have never felt the need to take it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 12:44:05
Subject: Re:Autarch tactics thread
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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OK, I like a badass hero character if only for story telling and I'm also against some seriously powerful lists some times...
So equipment wise I use:
- Swooping Hawk Wings
- Shard of Anaris
- Banshee mask
- Scorpion Chainsaber (for the additional attack)
Then I chuck her in with a Seer Council and an extra Farseer... so most games this unit is:
- Fortuned for rerollable saves/denies
- Protected for 2+ saves
- Concealed for shrouded
Occasionally they are also invisible
Yes they get murdered by the Culexus Assassin but I use my units as a screen so he cant deploy within range of them...The Autarch then brings in the Swooping Hawks/Crimson Hunters from reserve.
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Hawky wrote:Power Armour's greatest weakness is Newton, the deadliest snfbtch in space.
"You're in the Guard(ians), son! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 13:53:41
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Skyrunner, Laser Lance, Banshee mask = 100pts even. I use this in a unit of 6 Dark Eldar Reavers with 2 Caltrops. They really compliment each other.
The no-overwatch mask is a god-send for the Reavers and the Hit & Run allows the Autarch to not be a suicide unit. The fact that the Laser lance is always a power weapon really helps, even if it's only str3 after the charge. The Reavers are quite cheap and can be more durable than Shining Spears once their FNP kicks in.
On a few occasions, I have rolled +1T for the Reavers' combat drugs. T5, 3+ jink Eldar jetbikes for the win. I have been tempted to give the unit Blasters since they are 5pts cheaper on Reavers than on any other DE unit, but I usually want to Jink, so I don't.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 14:09:03
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Dark Angels Librarian with Book of Secrets
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Galef wrote:Skyrunner, Laser Lance, Banshee mask = 100pts even. I use this in a unit of 6 Dark Eldar Reavers with 2 Caltrops. They really compliment each other.
Nice. Good use.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 14:11:08
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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I imagine Lance Autarch with Banshee mask compliments harlequin Skyrunners as well I'f we are being sensible
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Hawky wrote:Power Armour's greatest weakness is Newton, the deadliest snfbtch in space.
"You're in the Guard(ians), son! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 14:26:54
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Dakka Veteran
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My normal army is lots of Aspect Warriors in Wave Serpents, supported by Fire Prisms, Night Spinners, Crimson Hunters, and Guardian jet bikes. In this army my Autarch supports a unit of nine Shining Spears that use the Wave Serpents and the Aspect Warriors inside as a shield from enemy fire, and in turn protect those squads from assault, flying over them or around their flank to smash vulnerable units or those I've weakened with shooting.
I equip my Autarch with a jet bike, a Banshee Mask, the Shard of Anaris, and, if points allow, a fusion gun. The Shard grants fearless so it keeps the Shining Spears from fleeing and it makes the Autarch better in assault. He can actually be decent in challenges if you take the Pale Courts bonus that grants him rerolls on attacks in challenges.
The unit, as a whole, can smash most things in melee, especially if you get support from Dire Avengers, though it unfortunately stinks at assaulting into cover. I like to stick a Farseer in the unit when I can to give it Fortune and whatever other support the psychic phase can muster.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 16:07:28
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Powerful Phoenix Lord
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Torus wrote:I imagine Lance Autarch with Banshee mask compliments harlequin Skyrunners as well I'f we are being sensible
Yes, because fielding Skyweavers is "sensible". I imagine that explains the
Man I wish Skyweavers were good. Why, oh why couldn't they have been cheaper and not come stock with BOTH shuricannon and cc weapons. Should have been able to choose what role you want them to play instead of paying for a shooting unit that wants to be in CC, or a CC unit that wants to sit back an shoot.
Back on Topic, I love my Autarch, but I have trouble using him if not taking DE allies. I miss Mantle of the Laughing God
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/25 16:58:19
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Requires them to be too close.
Of course I'm unsure how you'd really equip a character like that when they're only T3. ID is a hell of a mechanic.
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CaptainStabby wrote:If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.
jy2 wrote:BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.
vipoid wrote:Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?
MarsNZ wrote:ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/26 13:16:07
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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If the Autarch has all the options from every aspect Shrine, why can't he take a Crimson Hunter? That would be hilarious, especially if he kept his force shield invuln save
I don't usually have my Autarch as my warlord as he is usually going to die doing something heroic
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~500pts Asuryani painted new colour scheme
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/26 09:16:05
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Korlandril wrote:If the Autarch has all the options from every aspect Shrine, why can't he take a Crimson Hunter? That would be hilarious, especially if he kept his force shield invuln save
I don't usually have my Autarch as my warlord as he is usually going to die doing something heroic
You have no idea just how much I want this from a fluff/ gameplay perspective
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Hawky wrote:Power Armour's greatest weakness is Newton, the deadliest snfbtch in space.
"You're in the Guard(ians), son! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/26 15:01:07
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Torus wrote: Korlandril wrote:If the Autarch has all the options from every aspect Shrine, why can't he take a Crimson Hunter? That would be hilarious, especially if he kept his force shield invuln save
I don't usually have my Autarch as my warlord as he is usually going to die doing something heroic
You have no idea just how much I want this from a fluff/ gameplay perspective
He's actually missing a few other items aswell like the Swooping Hawk Grenade Pack, Reaper Range finder and Melta Bombs from Fire Dragons
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/26 15:58:53
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Omnipotent Necron Overlord
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I have a hard time using him as opposed to a farseer in just about every list. The only reason to include him is for reserves bonuses I think so if you include a lot of flyers he is worth putting in there. I think your use of him with swooping hawks is actually pretty nifty. Hes not bad with SS ether with a lazer lance or as a challenger in a seerstar.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/26 18:03:07
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Furious Fire Dragon
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I've really only advocated for the Autarch for Reserve manipulation. Other than that, I've periodically made great use of a Banshee mask. Everything else suffers from either too low strength, too high AP, or too points inefficient.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/27 03:31:35
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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War Walker Pilot with Withering Fire
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I really just like them for the reserve rolls, too, but wings/pack + fusion gun can be a great trolling combination.
Oh, there's a melta behind your tanks suddenly? Want to turn around and handle that? Or those wraithguard approaching? Your call...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/27 12:52:26
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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HuskyWarhammer wrote:I really just like them for the reserve rolls, too, but wings/pack + fusion gun can be a great trolling combination.
Oh, there's a melta behind your tanks suddenly? Want to turn around and handle that? Or those wraithguard approaching? Your call...
Fusion gun and wings is a good cheaper combo, I have used it a few times, but if you want to just strip a hull point haywire grenades are just as good too
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/27 20:59:48
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Jetbike, Banshee, and laser lance. Cheap, useful for reserve manipulation, and able to take down any harassing unit or destroy backfield objective campers as needed on the charge. Also works well against warp spiders as Str6 in combat will instant kill the exarch if you do enough wounds to the squad. Note that a model can't have more than one relic, so no shard + phoenix gem, sadly. I too wish mantle was still in the codex. But that would then allow you to take it on a farseer, who would automatically join the seer council in their formation and give them all stealth, shrouded, and hit & run while on jetbikes, haha. Currently, I'm playing corsairs more often than not. Similar idea with an autarch, a prince has a variety of equipment he can take, but he is more akin to an archon than an autarch. Best of both worlds.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/27 21:58:55
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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You can have as many relic's as you want, there is no restriction for Craftworld Eldar
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/27 23:35:02
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Korlandril wrote:You can have as many relic's as you want, there is no restriction for Craftworld Eldar
Yeah, I don't know where this misinterpretation comes from, I know SOME codexes have that restriction like Necrons, but never Eldar
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Hawky wrote:Power Armour's greatest weakness is Newton, the deadliest snfbtch in space.
"You're in the Guard(ians), son! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/28 04:10:01
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Probably page 97 where it says a model may replace a weapon with ONE of the folllowing ; )
In either case, autarchs are a good force multiplier and better warlord choice than farseers, especially in a daemon heavy meta. Keeping jetbikes off in reserve and bringing on spiders and hawks is quite useful.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/28 09:27:16
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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It's a misconception, it says the model may replace one Weapon with one item from the list, it clearly says on every characters entry they may take items from the list, plural.
The first bit is saying you must replace one Weapon to take one relic not limiting you to one item
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/28 12:22:49
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Shrieking Guardian Jetbiker
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Korlandril wrote:It's a misconception, it says the model may replace one Weapon with one item from the list, it clearly says on every characters entry they may take items from the list, plural. The first bit is saying you must replace one Weapon to take one relic not limiting you to one item Thats how I read that as well , saying that an Autarch may take ITEMS from the remnants of glory convinced me...
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Hawky wrote:Power Armour's greatest weakness is Newton, the deadliest snfbtch in space.
"You're in the Guard(ians), son! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/02/28 12:55:55
Subject: Autarch tactics thread
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Sneaky Striking Scorpion
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Talking of relics, has anyone used the Faolchu's Wing to any effect? Seems way to expensive for what it does and something you can already get from turbo-boosting apart from the re-rollable cover?
The Firesabre as well seems ok but you are paying 15pts over a regular power sword just to get +1 strength and the soul blaze stuff but that seems rubbish
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