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Tyranids and chaos cannot be eaten, for fear of the taint they bring/uncontrollable mutations. And they aren't focused on conquering, but enhancing their species with DNA of others. It's be much simpler for the IoM to hire them to fight off enemies than fight the Kroot themselves.
Also, there just isn't enough Kroot to consider them a threat over an ork WAAAAGH, a hive fleet, a necron invasion, chaos incursioj, etc. Most humans won't know what a Kroot is, but are much more likely to know what an ork is. (Although the majority of IoM worlds have barely seen any wars, in the grand scheme of things)
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Kroot are not evil, no. They're survivalists. Of the entire galaxy, they alone have a similar outlook on the galaxy to the Imperium: It is an enemy to be weathered and survived, by any means possible.
For the Imperium, admittedly, that means pogroms and oppression.
For the Kroot, that means no civilians. Their entire culture are warriors, even the mechanics. They have no farmers, being pure carnivores. The Shapers hold absolute control over every aspect of the tribe's lives though - who they eat, what they have sex with (and the other way round), where they sleep. And that is what the Imperium strives to.
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DorianGray wrote: They seem like they eat anything and could be a genuine threat to the entire galaxy. Are they evil?
Depends on who you ask. They are a bunch of cannibalistic corpse eating gene stealing mercenary birds with access to the finest weapons their money can buy.
There are worse Xenos species out there in the 40k universe but anyone who fought them or was raided by them will not see them as the "good guys".
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There a non threat. Too small to be on IOM main radar. There way too weak to maker iton the main to do list, there local threats, but unlike some, you can reason, deal with them and make a treaty.
Tyranids are very different and considered a top level threat. Same with caos etc
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DorianGray wrote: They seem like they eat anything and could be a genuine threat to the entire galaxy. Are they evil?
Depends on who you ask. They are a bunch of cannibalistic corpse eating gene stealing mercenary birds with access to the finest weapons their money can buy.
There are worse Xenos species out there in the 40k universe but anyone who fought them or was raided by them will not see them as the "good guys".
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Forms: 15–17 canibal, 15–16 caniball(e, canniball, 16 cannabal, 16– cannibal.
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a. Orig.: †a name given to the Carib people of the West Indies, who were said to eat human flesh (obs.). In (later) extended use: a person who eats human flesh;
b. fig. (sometimes formerly as a strong term of abuse).
2. An animal that preys on its own species.
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I. A role taken by a person.
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1. A role or character assumed in real life, or in a play, etc.; a part, function, or office; a persona; a semblance or guise. Hence: any of the characters in a play or story.
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a. An individual human being; a man, woman, or child.
b. A man or woman of high rank, distinction, or importance; a personage. Usually (and now only) with modifying word or phrase.
c. In emphatic use: a human being, as distinguished from an animal, thing, etc. In later use also: an individual regarded as having human rights, dignity, or worth. Cf. sense 5.
To wit: A Kroot cannot be considered a cannibal, as they are neither people, nor do they consume other kroot.
"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad.
Except if we eat fish at some point it was distantly related to us. So it's like saying we eat ourselves.
Much of the Kroot wildlife is most likely just wildlife and not sapient or under control of the shapers in any way.
Also they eat so they can evolve and grow as a species to make them stronger, and they don't eat themselves typically any more than we find cannibals amongst ourselves maybe even less so because of their unique culture and genetics.
The Tau find them to be fairly talkative and peacful provided they can get their food. Tau do find it gross how they eat right on the battlefield though and the Kroot have a grim sense of humor. The more unsettled someone is the funnier it is to them.
Ultimately a rather harmless species in the grand scheme. If the IoM could get their stick out of their ass and notice the Kroot are not ever going to try and kill their empire/compete with them they could hire some excellent shock attack soldiers. Thankfully the Tau recognize the strengths they add to the whole. The Kroot had a fairly respectable space faring empire until they decided they didn't much like the whole Empire thing and went back to the older ways. They've been this way ever since then.
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DorianGray wrote: They seem like they eat anything and could be a genuine threat to the entire galaxy. Are they evil?
Should the IoM focus on wiping out Kroot first and foremost before all other threats?
And is their threat level greater than, say, the orks, tyranids or chaos?
Nope, at the end of the day, they're just hungry. And long pig is tasty. heck, they're mercenaries you can probably pay with steak. That's hardly evil!
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As far as the Imperium are concerned all xenos are evil, although in regards to the Kroot I think they might just be jealous because the Tau got to the birdmen first.
Are they a threat to the Imperium as a whole? Probably not. But people who get too close to their territory need to watch their back.
Why is that evil? Why is eating humans evil as opposed to eating fish? No difference between eating a fish and eating a human to a Kroot. Apart from taste I suppose.
Wiping out the Kroot would be a waste of a crusade compared to other things.
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Sure, from the human's POV. The Kroot think they honor strong opponents by eating them - it would be evil to just leave a body to rot. It's wasteful and disrespectful.
Kroot mercenaries are used by humans. Their calculated IoM thread lv is relative low for a warlike intelligent Xenos species.
But they are stuff of nightmares if you ask me. These things are the GWs grim dark version of "The predator" and they come in units : |
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Well, they also eat Orks. And Eldar. And would eat Tau, too, if they'd let them. And they've even tried eating Tyranids too, which is the ultimate act of meta-cannibalism.
It's not like they discriminate. And discrimination, now THAT is evil.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
There is a big difference between tigers and Kroot who eat humans.
Kroots are intelligent conscious creatures just like us and they still choose to eat it all. And they have a secret agenda.
They hide from their employees that they are fighting because of the good genes they can steal out of their food and they lie to the tau about being exclusive.
Don't know what is needed to be evil but they at least check some of the traditional boxes.
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The Kroot don't go out of their way to raid worlds for genetic material. Nor are they known for slaughtering in-mass for the very same reason. When it comes to sentients, they eat individual foes they bested in battle as a sign of respect.
Nor do the Kroot have any strong loyalty to the Tau Empire. Much to the annoyance of the Ethereals, they still fly around and sell their services as mercs and bodyguards. Even the Inquisition, Rogue Traders, and high ranking nobles hire them.
Despite being an Imperium-leaning fan, I like the Kroot. They live by their own code, enjoy the freedom of wandering, and are just trying to survive. I admire the "free spirit" aspect of the Kroot.
So, no. They are not evil. Simply trying to get by in a galaxy gone straight to hell.
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oldravenman3025 wrote: The Kroot don't go out of their way to raid worlds for genetic material. Nor are they known for slaughtering in-mass for the very same reason. When it comes to sentients, they eat individual foes they bested in battle as a sign of respect.
Yea, I get the same vibe from them. They practise ritual cannibalism, not mass consumption of sentients like, say, the Tyranids. They certainly don't eat other sentients for sustenance, and only do so in times of war or dire need.
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
Into the storm wrote:The most infamous habit of the Kroot is their preference for eating the flesh of the dead. Even in the midst of combat, Kroot will often ritually devour the corpses of those they have killed, and there is almost nothing beyond their tastes...
...Kroot are infamous for their practice of devouring the corpses of their foes. If necessary, they will even turn cannibal
and eat Kroot corpses...
Yup sounds totally like this noble race prefers eating cattle and only eats sentient beings if they have to.
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"That time I only loaded the cannon with powder. Next time, I will fill it with jewels and diamonds and they will cut you to shrebbons!" - Nogbad the Bad.
Your dictionary could use a non anthropocentric update ; )
Seriously even insect species who eat each other would not be cannibalistic in that definition.
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Your dictionary could use a non anthropocentric update ; )
My dictionary is the dictionary, and has animals eating their own kind as its second definition.
Kroot don't eat other Kroot. They might eat krootoids that are so far down a different evolutionary path that they've lost sapience, but they don't eat other kroot, because they already have the same positive genetics, and they understand that cannibalism leads to prion diseases.
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Into the storm wrote:The most infamous habit of the Kroot is their preference for eating the flesh of the dead. Even in the midst of combat, Kroot will often ritually devour the corpses of those they have killed, and there is almost nothing beyond their tastes...
...Kroot are infamous for their practice of devouring the corpses of their foes. If necessary, they will even turn cannibal
and eat Kroot corpses...
Yup sounds totally like this noble race prefers eating cattle and only eats sentient beings if they have to.
Note the "in the midst of combat" bit. So far, I have yet to read about the Kroot human baby farms
War does not determine who is right - only who is left.
heck, they're mercenaries you can probably pay with steak. That's hardly evil!
