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So now that most lists I see running the new daemon decurion seem to be just taking a min sized squad of furies as an auxiliary it got me thinking...

Why can't we actually use them as part of the army instead of just a throwaway unit?

They need a Herald attachment to mitigate the crap LD but that's fine.

Only 1 attack but str4, cheap cheap flying dudes.

MoS and a Slaanesh Herald would give them rending and rerolls to hit with appropriate loci.

Or maybe Tzeentch to go with the popular flame host detachment?

Neither helps their survivability much. But they are still super cheap at least.

Thoughts?

I wouldnt bother with an integral herald, but slaanesh furies are a fairly nice unit in a mob. They dont really need a herald - daemonic instability means you cant be pinned or broken with gunfire, and if they lose combat the unit is probably dead anyway.

Plus, S4 rending gives them an edge as tank killers compared tothe S3 normal Slaaeneshi daemons

The problem is the other fast attack daemons do it better. Seekers are better then Slaanesh Furies (are faster and have way more attacks meaning they deal more damage per point then furies) and Flesh Hounds are better then Khorne Furies. Beast of Nurgle are better then Nurgle Furies. And honestly Furies just don't get anything for going tzeentch

The Slaanesh upgrade can be handy even on a minimal unit to apply extra pressure with their fast run and potential to damage vehicles and ignore some saves.

Basic light distraction unit. Deal with it now, or I'll find somewhere to apply it.

I prefer to run them as a unit of 10 though.

 CrownAxe wrote:
The problem is the other fast attack daemons do it better. Seekers are better then Slaanesh Furies (are faster and have way more attacks meaning they deal more damage per point then furies) and Flesh Hounds are better then Khorne Furies. Beast of Nurgle are better then Nurgle Furies. And honestly Furies just don't get anything for going tzeentch

I don't think anyone will argue that Furies in a CAD are one of the worst choices, but the OP is asking how to make Furies do actual work in the Incusion detachment as they are by far the cheapest Auxiliary choice.

I have been debating this with myself as well. I really don't want to put many points on them. I though about marking them Tzeentch or Nurgle, flyi to an objective in a ruin and going to ground. I want to keep them cheap and force an opponent to dedicate fire to them.

Furies in general by premise are terrible due to their Ld of 2. If you fail a morale check you're done. End of story. However there are ways around this that can make them slightly better if at the cost of making your army slightly less viable.

Throw a Herald of Slaanesh in there with a steed, they get higher Ld.

Herald who knows Invisibility makes them harder to counter and at the cost of a full 10 man squad they can be pretty scary even for Terminators point for point.

Make them Nurgle and have them hide on an objective or inside a ruin. They're cheap, inexpensive and hard to kill. 2+ Cover if in a ruin no one wants to waste a squad of firing on things that really aren't meant to do anything but hide. Chances will be they last 2-3 turns and nab an objective for you.