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Woah woah woah, saying that implies that his earlier works are HIV and he does actually have some pretty good movies. I mean pretty much all of his recent stuff is trash, but Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, and even Little Nicky were pretty good.
I agree with this. With the exception of Little Nicky that is. I think the thing with comparing comedies... I'm of the opinion that Sandler hasn't really "progressed" as a comedian/actor the way the Bill Murray did. Sure, Bill Murray had a fairly basic "schtick" that he stuck to, but IMO, he kept evolving it to the point where, in Zombieland and other movies, he's able to sort of make fun of his previous work. I mean, his work as the groundskeeper in Caddyshack is gold, but it really is nothing like Ghostbusters from a comedy stand-point.
Yeah, the on screen chemistry is pretty important aspect of GB and you had a lot comedic talent as well.
In a comedy, I'd probably rank screen chemistry as one of the top things. Anyone remember "Grown Ups" ?? It's got a bunch of comedians, but I found it genuinely not funny.
Well it's an Adam Sandler flick so a miserable experience is expected. I mean Adam Sandler is to comedy in what AIDS is to the human condition.
Woah woah woah, saying that implies that his earlier works are HIV and he does actually have some pretty good movies. I mean pretty much all of his recent stuff is trash, but Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, and even Little Nicky were pretty good.
Eh, I haven't found Sandler funny since I was like 10 and I suspect that is how most people end up liking some of his work, they liked it when they were pre-teen or teenager but as people's tastes evolve I feel quite a few if they were to revisit some of the Sandler movies of the past they
would realize how embarrassingly bad they are. That being said I will say some of his earlier films were less lazy than his more recent ones (in that they had actual jokes), but I haven't found his "schtick" funny in awhile his shouting, violence, vulgarity, wacky voices, etc (none of those
things are necessarily bad in of itself I just feel he doesn't have the cleverness or talent to elevate it beyond that (or he doesn't care)) are juvenile and obnoxious to me. Some specific examples of hackiness include Jack and Jill where they have a Mexican maid (just because she's Mexican
doesn't give you a free pass on making racist joke towards that culture) spewing out lazy jokes that have the racial sensitivity of The Birth of a Nation, like "I just go over the border" or references to illegal immigrants and Water Boy perpetuating stereotypes of Cajun culture. A lot of his
comedy comes across as mean spirited to me where he thinks it's okay to make fun of cultures, body shape, ability, etc basically anyone who is different. None of these things are automatically bad but, if you're going to do comedy on something controversial or a touchy subject it helps if
you have something smart, interesting or insightful to say about it. Maybe there was period of quality Sandler flicks but that time has long past, in short I would recommend Adam Sandler about as much as I would recommend getting diarrhea.
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Happy Gilmore, The Wedding Singer, Billy Madison, and Big Daddy are all still quite funny, and I'm no longer a 10 year old.
Must be something wrong with me.
Also, newsflash: lots of comedy revolves around making fun of stereotypes. If you're looking for racial sensitivity go find a safe space; it doesn't belong in comedy.
Not particularly thrilled on this one, to be honest. Just... doesn't say 'Ghostbusters', and it's not because of the women. I think it's the general attitude of the movie. It's like... a direct-to-DVD movie making Ghostbusters references...? I dunno.
I was expecting this to be awful but I'm not so sure now... It looks pretty fun, but hi how is what ghost busters should be. It's not Star Trek or Star Wars after all it was always a feel good comedy so as long as it makes me laugh then I'm good with it.
Oh and Jesus would laugh at the ghost busters trap, if death couldn't hold him then neither could some man made ghost trap!
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cincydooley wrote: If you're looking for racial sensitivity go find a safe space; it doesn't belong in comedy.
So you find racism funny?
Pointing out and making fun of racial and ethnic stereotypes in comedy can be incredibly funny. Chris Rock, Dave Chappelle, George Carlin, George Lopez, et al have all done it.
I have to agree, but it's a fine line between mocking them (as Dave Chappelle did initially on his show) and reinforcing them (as Dave Chappelle started to do on his show, before he realized and quit).
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I'm guessing that "All in the Family" was something along the lines of 'Rising Damp' we had in the UK?
It depends what you mean by 'features racism' though. It's true that I can't think I've ever seen a British show which 'features racism' but the point of the joke hasn't been, "this guy is a fool." - The Pub Landlord comes to mind.
We certainly do have jokes about race though. - This is one of the classics.
Compel wrote: I'm guessing that "All in the Family" was something along the lines of 'Rising Damp' we had in the UK?
It depends what you mean by 'features racism' though. It's true that I can't think I've ever seen a British show which 'features racism' but the point of the joke hasn't been, "this guy is a fool." - The Pub Landlord comes to mind.
We certainly do have jokes about race though. - This is one of the classics.
God they were good back in the day. Wasn't so impressed with the remakes they did a couple of years ago though.
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cincydooley wrote: It must be hard to be so enlightened. Or maybe your definition of "racist joke" is far too broad.
I'll wager on the latter.
Try typing Bernard Manning Racist into YouTube and see the type of stuff that comes up. That's what we generally mean by race jokes in the uk.
You might not feel so smug then.
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Sigvatr wrote: I genuinely pity you if you don't think that racism can ever be funny.
?!?
A lot of comedians use racist jokes. Just think of any "lazy Mexican" joke, the overly accurate Germans, the always drunk French etc. It's very popular in the US and also in Germany, it's called ethno-comedy over 'ere, and most of the time, since it's bad if you say notsonicethings about others as a German, it's people making fun of their racial heritage themselves.
It's /good/ that there are racist jokes and racist comedy - as long as it stays within agreeable boundaries. Making jokes about any issue creates distance and provokes (self)reflection.
Evidently nobody here ever watched "All in the Family". The character of Archie Bunker was of a rare breed: A bigot with a heart of gold.
Never heard of it.
I wonder if this is a US phenomenon?
Comedy in the UK just doesn't feature racism, at least not since the 80s with the likes of Bernard Manning who are now very much out of favour.
I personally have never found a racist joke funny.
Compel wrote:I'm guessing that "All in the Family" was something along the lines of 'Rising Damp' we had in the UK?
It depends what you mean by 'features racism' though. It's true that I can't think I've ever seen a British show which 'features racism' but the point of the joke hasn't been, "this guy is a fool." - The Pub Landlord comes to mind.
We certainly do have jokes about race though. - This is one of the classics.
You probably never heard of it because it was a 70's sitcom created by Norman Lear and starring the late, great Carroll O'Connor. It ran for eight seasons (1971-1979). It's inspiration came from a British sitcom call Till Death Us Do Part.
Compel wrote: I'm guessing that "All in the Family" was something along the lines of 'Rising Damp' we had in the UK?
It depends what you mean by 'features racism' though. It's true that I can't think I've ever seen a British show which 'features racism' but the point of the joke hasn't been, "this guy is a fool." - The Pub Landlord comes to mind.
We certainly do have jokes about race though. - This is one of the classics.
God they were good back in the day. Wasn't so impressed with the remakes they did a couple of years ago though.
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cincydooley wrote: It must be hard to be so enlightened. Or maybe your definition of "racist joke" is far too broad.
I'll wager on the latter.
Try typing Bernard Manning Racist into YouTube and see the type of stuff that comes up. That's what we generally mean by race jokes in the uk.
You might not feel so smug then.
Nope; still feel fine.
And still think that attitude towards comedy is sad.
"All in the Family" was the American remake of Till Death Do Us Part. The character of Alf Garnett was a horrible racist, sexist old man, and the audience was supposed to be laughing at his reactionary (even for the late 60s/early 70s) views, although like the Chappelle Show, a lot of people laughed with him instead of at him. The Pub Landlord fell into that trap too, which is why Al Murray doesn't use that character so much now.
"racist" jokes are a bit postmodern now; it's the racism that's the subject of the joke, rather than the "funny foreigners". Or it's comedians from the ethnic groups who used to be the butt of the jokes. Have a look on YouTube for some clips of Mock the Week when Dara O'Briain has Ed Byrne or another Irish comedian to work with - there's plenty of jokes about "stealing the English comedians' jobs" and the like.
There's still some acceptable targets, though; The first time Henning Wehn was on QI, the very idea that there might be a German comedian was a joke in itself (not to mention getting "don't mention the war" as his buzzer).
A beloved franchise is rebooted, with a trailer done the right way.
Simple and to the point: it's a movie about all the things that you loved in the original. We show the stuff you liked about those original films in the trailer. We do not give the plot away. Ta da!
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Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
Cheesecat wrote: That Ultraman trailer is awful, I don't know what you're talking about when you say "done right".
You kidding? Giant monsters, Ultraman punching and or kicking giant monsters, and a spectacle of urban devastation as Ultraman and said monster duke it out.
And best, they focus ON THESE THINGS in the trailer. No Bryan Cranston. No Kick Ass. Just Ass Kicking. I am excited to see this film. This is what a kaiju film trailer should be.
Fate is in heaven, armor is on the chest, accomplishment is in the feet. - Nagao Kagetora
Woah woah woah, saying that implies that his earlier works are HIV and he does actually have some pretty good movies. I mean pretty much all of his recent stuff is trash, but Happy Gilmore, Billy Madison, and even Little Nicky were pretty good.
I agree with this. With the exception of Little Nicky that is. I think the thing with comparing comedies... I'm of the opinion that Sandler hasn't really "progressed" as a comedian/actor the way the Bill Murray did. Sure, Bill Murray had a fairly basic "schtick" that he stuck to, but IMO, he kept evolving it to the point where, in Zombieland and other movies, he's able to sort of make fun of his previous work. I mean, his work as the groundskeeper in Caddyshack is gold, but it really is nothing like Ghostbusters from a comedy stand-point.
I agree with Dreadwinter if this is about Sandler. That said he is pretty much the low point of all comedy these days. He is the D-bag of comedy. That is seriously the type of humor he does. When I see him in movies his movies are often in a D-bag's perspective of comedy.
You know most comedians would have the scene in 'zohan' where he has sex with middle aged women as a stunt that actually ends up being something else. In a Sandler movie though it's exactly what it seems to be. You know South Park having a friend 'getting raped' ended up being a joke about how bad the Indiana jones movies were. If only Sandler knew such types of humor. If only Sandler still knew what humor was or knew what it was to begin with.
Yeah, that is exactly what an Ultraman trailer should be. Look at how awesome our monster is! See them fight! There will be more fighting (and possibly more monsters) in the movie. Perhaps we will tell a story or teach a morale- if we feel like it.
Boom!
/Skyscraper drop.
It's like a less sophisticated Pacific Rim.
Klawz-Ramming is a subset of citrus fruit?
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Orkeosaurus wrote:Star Trek also said we'd have X-Wings by now. We all see how that prediction turned out.
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