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2016/03/10 18:52:22
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
=Angel= wrote: Entreat the mechanicus. If they will provide Ships, I'll provide men to crew and fill them. Together we strike at the Tau, crush their tiny empire and plunder their xenotech.
Mass conscription/recruitment on hiveworlds in segmentum solar. A trillion humans, training in mass troopships in transit to the eastern fringe. Mechanicus chemicals make them harder better faster stronger and more loyal to the throne.
Those that don't make the grade are 'transferred' to the Skitarri armed forces and reappear as weapons servitors.
A hundred forgeworlds contribute ships and weapons to the great endeavour.
The skies above Tau worlds darken with human ships and landing craft.
Genocidal level warfare exterminates 70% of a world's populace, leaving some earth caste alive as slaves to man the manufactorums. Tech priests remain behind after each conquest to oversee the return to productivity. Rogue Traders arrive and act as ferrymen, shuttling wounded men in stasis from the front to the Mechanicus Manufactorum worlds and new ' Damocles pattern dreadnoughts' from the Manufactorums to the front.
The new dreadnoughts are bipedal, jetpacked heavily armed weapons platforms, with purity seals on every surface.
These designs start to filter back into the Imperium at large. Within a decade of the first world's conquest, Damocles Pattern Dreadnoughts(DPD's) start to appear in Explorator forces, skitarii legions and rogue trader armies.
The Astartes are resistant to adopt DPD's into their forges until an Black Templar crusade manages to cross breed the suits with centurion and Jump pack components, improving the protection offered by the suits and significantly increasing Jet pack thrust.
The initial crusader squad armed with the experimental suits scores a high profile victory against one of Abaddon's lieutenants.
Crashing though terminator squads like a locomotive, the Templar DPD suits are too resilient to stop with autocannon and small arms fire, too maneuverable to box in and simply shoulder aside any who try to bar their way.
Blasting a path with meltagun and smashing Traitors aside, they descend on the Black legion commander with thunder hammers crackling and hardpoints ablaze with weapons fire.
As the Tau fall, their watercaste start offering incredible terms to the invaders. Promises of co-operation and the secrets of Tau engineering fall on deaf ears as the invaders wrest their worlds and technology from them by force.
I leave a speedbump of tau between us and the next Tyranid Invasion and the Mechanicus to hold the very Tau homeworlds for the Imperium. They send ranger and sicarus assassins periodically to kill ranking firecaste and etherals and start churning out weapons on their new baby forgeworlds.
Other Forgeworlds start to render assistance and Damocles knight houses are founded, then Titan legios.
The grateful mechanicus co-operates more fully with the Munitorum's requests for supply.
Cadian regiments suddenly find themselves shipped grav guns and pulse cannons as replacements for their grenade launchers and heavy bolters, along with Enginseers to disseminate the secrets of their use.
Krieg armies stand around confused after having survived what they assumed would be a diversionary suicidal charge, the advanced carapace they had been equipped with turning aside every lethal blow.
Steel legion start to incorporate the Anti Grav Damocles pattern Chimera into their blitz tactics, rappelling into battle with weapons blazing.
You do realize that the Tau Empire's technology isn't even close to on-par with that of the Imperium, correct?
A. Battle Suits need significantly thicker armour to be equivalent in protection to Power Armour
B. Tau don't have any kind of life-extending technology, a la Rejuvenat treatment
C. Everything the Tau has as standard-issue is implausible in an Empire that has more people than it does raw materials. For example, Lasguns are literally the ultimate standard-issue weapon, with nigh-infinite ammunition, a durable design, and enough stopping power to put down anything that's human-sized (which is most of what IG fight anyways). Pulse Guns are more expensive, lack the infinite ammo, and require far more maintenance. While they are perfectly plausible in an Imperium-spanning spec ops force (a la Astartes or Storm Troopers), most of those forces already have weaponry that perfectly fit their roles (Astartes Bolter = perfect psychological weapon, and highly effective against larger organisms, Hot-shot Lasgun has virtually infinite ammo, with no need to reload power cells, and is pefect for taking down heavily armoured foes, etc.). Even the ability of Tau to stick jetpacks on their battlesuits is due to the fact that Tau use a lightweight material for them that is inferior (in terms of sheer durability and protection capabilities) to Imperial materials for equivalent exo-suits (power Armour, Knights, Dreadnoughts, etc.)
Basically, you grossly overestimate Tau technology. They still need another thousand years or so to be able to out-tech the AdMech, at least three more to be able to understand dark age tech like the Golden Throne or an Ark Mechanicus.
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2016/03/11 03:52:47
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Iracundus wrote: The Imperium can be likened to a ship stuck on autopilot. It is structured in such a way that the actions of local organizations and factions cancel out more or less in the big scheme....
...To sum up: You are in charge...and there is nothing you can do.
There is you just have to fund the 40k equivalent of Hari Seldons secret project ; )
Automatically Appended Next Post: Killing the emperor and destroying the Astronomican might also work.
Yeah, if you really want an Assassin's knife or a Custode's spear jammed down your throat you should totally try that.
The autopilot analogy is very apt. There is nothing you can change without your rivals or the very structure of the Imperium itself working to undo your chances. Hell, you couldn't even invent a more ergonomical ballpoint pen design to help you with the never diminishing piles of paperwork you have to go through for every little thing you want to do. Inventing a new pen might just get you accused of tech-heresy. It would be the perfect excuse the FabGen of Mars needs to have you removed.
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2016/03/11 03:56:14
Subject: Re:Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
@Keezus - The trouble with that theory is that Orks grow larger, stronger and smarter on a 'diet' of war. If you use them as meatshields against the Tyranids you'll only end up with your own destruction. Kryptmann used this method to direct Hive Fleet Behemoth (Kraken?) at the Octavius Empire, reasoning that one would wipe the other out and then there would be only one enemy left. However, with a war that size, if the Orks win, they will become ridiculously powerful warriors through growth via warfare and if the Tyranids win, then the assimilated Ork DNA will make a numerically superior horde into a numerically superior and immensely strong (physically) horde. Really, the best way to defeat those two are to keep them as far apart as possible or to send the Tyranids them up against the Necrons, whom they cannot assimilate and who can function even on dead worlds (the ones the Tyranids are sucking the life out of). IIRC, the Silent King has already journeyed outside the Galaxy and seen the Threat the Tyranids pose, so he would be the most approachable by the IoM.
As already stated,being put in command of the Military means nothing if you're tied up with Bureaucracy. With that in mind, if I was Commander, I'd set out to scour the worlds for all the remaining Pharos devices. With those secure, the Astronomican wouldn't be needed and the Emperor could devote what remains of his soul to regenerating/reincarnating. That done, he can (rule the IoM!) pursue his Imperial Webway shenanigans, freeing humanity from warp travel. That done, with communications far more reliable, less prone to loss/mistranslation and much faster, the Imperium could really get a grip of it's logistical/organisational mess. An army is only as good as the munitions it can fire and the soldiers it can feed - logistics is key and logistics is the main thing the Imperium sucks at.
Iracundus wrote: The Imperium can be likened to a ship stuck on autopilot. It is structured in such a way that the actions of local organizations and factions cancel out more or less in the big scheme....
...To sum up: You are in charge...and there is nothing you can do.
There is you just have to fund the 40k equivalent of Hari Seldons secret project ; )
Automatically Appended Next Post: Killing the emperor and destroying the Astronomican might also work.
Yeah, if you really want an Assassin's knife or a Custode's spear jammed down your throat you should totally try that.
My first plan -> Just fund the local Hari Seldon would most likely not get you killed, if you pulled it off in secret. The downside of this plan is tht there just might be no local Hari Seldon since the empire and the cult of mars likes to kill those kinds of heretics. The positive side of this plan is that you are actively exiling 2 large groups of free thinkers out of the imperil into empty deep space so it would most likely not require a lot of cover-up work.
The second plan is more of last hurrah suicide run. The idea behind it is simple. The empire is decaying and the current power structures prevent it from getting out of it. So the only solution would be to completely destroy the power structure and hope for some world to get on the right track before it is consumed by the chaos that will follow. The best way to do this would be to completely shut down all imperial space travel while crippling as much of the centralized power structure as possible. Simply put Terra and all its inhabitants has to go and it would be a bonus if Mars also went away in the same blast. There should be a number of accident that you could arrange if you controlled the entire imperial forces. You would probably not survive the aftermath but that isn't the point.
Automatically Appended Next Post: I am sceptical to the lets ally with the eldar plan. Since I don't believe that you can trust them. Their goals don't overlap perfectly with the goals of humanity, they can look into the future, don't value human lives and like to scheme millennia ahead.
I would be surprised if their plans included a happy ending for the, grim dark & decadent chaos feeding human empire of bipedal monkeys.
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2016/03/11 17:45:58
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
I am sceptical to the lets ally with the eldar plan. Since I don't believe that you can trust them. Their goals don't overlap perfectly with the goals of humanity, they can look into the future, don't value human lives and like to scheme millennia ahead.
I would be surprised if their plans included a happy ending for the, grim dark & decadent chaos feeding human empire of bipedal monkeys.
The Eldar are tools to be used, nothing more. Humanity has Divinators as well, they just don't opt to use them in a similar manner. Were the IoM to actually employ Astartes (the only ones who could live for long enough to see any plans to fruition) Librarians in a similar manner to Eldar Farseers, then humanity would probably be much better off.
To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote: There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
We must all join the Kroot-startes...
2016/03/11 18:08:33
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
dusara217 wrote: Were the IoM to actually employ Astartes (the only ones who could live for long enough to see any plans to fruition) Librarians in a similar manner to Eldar Farseers, then humanity would probably be much better off.
But the Astartes aren't really in any position to do that. While they do recruit some random psykers and get a share of the best collected by Black Ships their dangerous occupation alone means few will live long enough to really make an impact. A psychic Inquisitor (or Primaris Psyker) with access to Rejuvenat treatments is likely to live much longer than your average Space Marine. Inquisitor Eisenhorn was 350 in the last book of the omnibus and fully expected to live at least as long again if not killed in the line of duty. A marine is extremely lucky to not die of rokkit-to-the-face syndrome before age 120. For every exceptional Librarian like Tigurius or Mephiston there's bound to be a hundred non-marines at least as powerful in psychic might, and they've not spent as much time on training destructive battlefield powers.
2016/03/11 18:15:11
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Divert any and all research into a form of interstellar transport that dosent rely on the Warp/Astro.
With it, the IoM potentially would be unstoppable.
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2016/03/11 18:24:52
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
dusara217 wrote: Were the IoM to actually employ Astartes (the only ones who could live for long enough to see any plans to fruition) Librarians in a similar manner to Eldar Farseers, then humanity would probably be much better off.
But the Astartes aren't really in any position to do that. While they do recruit some random psykers and get a share of the best collected by Black Ships their dangerous occupation alone means few will live long enough to really make an impact. A psychic Inquisitor (or Primaris Psyker) with access to Rejuvenat treatments is likely to live much longer than your average Space Marine. Inquisitor Eisenhorn was 350 in the last book of the omnibus and fully expected to live at least as long again if not killed in the line of duty. A marine is extremely lucky to not die of rokkit-to-the-face syndrome before age 120. For every exceptional Librarian like Tigurius or Mephiston there's bound to be a hundred non-marines at least as powerful in psychic might, and they've not spent as much time on training destructive battlefield powers.
Really? The IoM isn't in a position to requisition a small amount of powerful Divinators from the Grey Knights to foresee disasters and tell first responders where to go to stop them (or mitigate the damage)? Obviously, said Divinators aren't going to remain on the front lines like they would be before; they're far too valuable behind the lines, but are also virtually incorruptable, so that Chaos can't get inside of the operation (via the Psykers, at least). The life expectancy of an Astartes who doesn't die of unnatural causes is infinity, since they are (hypothetically) biologically immortal, and we have examples of them living past two thousand years (one of the BT High Marshalls lived to 4k years, I think, but I don't remember his name, so I could be way off with this one) before being murder-lated by dirty Xenos scrubs.
To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote: There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
We must all join the Kroot-startes...
2016/03/12 04:27:20
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Really? The IoM isn't in a position to requisition a small amount of powerful Divinators from the Grey Knights to foresee disasters and tell first responders where to go to stop them (or mitigate the damage)?
The Grey Knights do predict disasters to be fair. They just focus on daemonic incursions (which are arguably the worst type of invasions the Imperium faces).
2016/03/12 04:28:30
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Really? The IoM isn't in a position to requisition a small amount of powerful Divinators from the Grey Knights to foresee disasters and tell first responders where to go to stop them (or mitigate the damage)?
The Grey Knights do predict disasters to be fair. They just focus on daemonic incursions (which are arguably the worst type of invasions the Imperium faces).
Which begs the question "why don't other Chapters?" Also, that's pretty cool, I didn't know that.
To quote a fictional character... "Let's make this fun!"
Tactical_Spam wrote: There was a story in the SM omnibus where a single kroot killed 2-3 marines then ate their gene seed and became a Kroot-startes.
We must all join the Kroot-startes...
2016/03/12 04:40:02
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Which begs the question "why don't other Chapters?" Also, that's pretty cool, I didn't know that.
I guess they do when they can. But the Grey Knights tend to get the best of the bunch. If I recall correctly in the 5th Edition Grey Knights Codex there's a passage where they kill some other loyal Space Marines in order to secure a particular recruit. They really are supposed to be beyond other Space Marines.
Tigarius predicts attacks as an example.
2016/03/12 04:50:16
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Not sure about this but I would think that SM librarians and most human psykers are just not good enough in divining deep into the future. Sure they can do it bit but going far into the complex future might be just to hard for them.
The only fluff that I know of that comes close to it is the Akashic Reader but that thing required the power of the astronomican (blacking it out for a moment) and a dark age tech lv complex machine + huge quantities of sacrificial psykers in order to work.
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2016/03/12 08:15:04
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
HuskyWarhammer wrote: By decree of the God-Emperor, you are placed in charge of the Imperium's military and diplomatic forces. What do you do?
Turn around and say "Holy crap, when did YOU wake up?!"
After that I'd feed a few million more Cadian soldiers to the meatgrinder that is Tau space*, thus ensuring that we actually lose when the next Black Crusade comes out of the Eye of Terror. And I'd rub my clawed hands together and cackle "Just as planned!"
* This is assuming they could even get there, after the AdMech set the Damocles Gulf on fire in Mont'ka. Not even joking.
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2016/03/12 10:56:00
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Is it too heretical to declare a human warrrrg crusade? I would then go around and re-Great crusade the galaxy again in a giant circle pattern starting at terra. I would appoint 12 super generals and 12 super admials with 12 fabricator secundus and 12 ecclesiastical cardinals with 12 inquisitor lords as support. Any chapters that want to join are welcome.
12 sinultaneous battlefronts sound like alot but each taskforce will be independent and drag along all loyal worlds in their path into the crusade. Any loyal world that objects will be invaded and compliance reinstated.any astartes chapters that resist will be declared renegade and any forge world that fails to follow will be force shunt aborted and subsequently reinvaded with mars level access codes installed to allow future crontrol overrides. Massive increased production of exterminatus weaponry will keep momentum up. What worlds take too long will be destroyed. Will begin new terraforming process to make new the destroyed worlds.
Any battlegroups that encounter overwhelming resistances will circumnavigate around trouble spots and seige those areas. Any battlegroups that are wiped out will be replaced by a 13th/14th and so on groups each with more exterminatus options. The max fleet distance will be to the limits of the astronomicon. Any successful fleets will begin phase 2 of the plan:the building of smaller astronomicons at the limit of terra's.
Phase 3 will be push out and establish more bridgeheads and then repeat phase 2 again and so forth.
Universal invasion in porgress, we will start invading other dimensions as well. The warp will be pacified with necron pylon tech. The energy syphoned will be used to power more astronomicons.
All webways will be destroyed or encased in solid rock. All tomb worlds will be smashed by planets with booster rockets propelling them. All xenos if not destroyed will be herded in front of the battlegroups to spread panic in further outlying areas.
All nids will be fought in space when possible and exterminatus will cleanse the grounds.
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2016/03/12 12:40:22
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Sir Samuel Buca wrote: Cease fire with whatever Craftworlds are reasonable enough to know that we need to work on greater enemies first, i.e Tyranids/Chaos/Necrons/Orks.
I'd launch a Crusade down to T'au and halt any expansions, turn the Imperial war machine on the blue men and show them a real galactic super power, no more repeats of previous soft touches with the the Tau.
I'd also reach out to Inquisitor Kryptman, he's going to be pretty helpful on dealing with Hive Fleets.
Cease fire with Craftworlds, Tau, and any other Xenos species who can. Get diplomats to hire as much of them as possible hire as much Xenos and use them as a gigantic shock attack wave ahead of humans. Reunite as much of the tech priests in a great conclave of sharing. All knowledge HAS to be shared lest there be extreme consequences. I would start to have them look into Necron pylon technology with the assistance of Eldar and Tau. Send Imperium armies to help Tau hold their eastern fringes (for now) to get them to try and help reverse engineer the technology. Once all of this is done I would begin mass producing pylon technology accross the entire universe and putting it up anywhere I can. From there I would use the massively bolstered Imperial forces to go on a huge crusade all over the galaxy kicking Chaos ass.
Once the prime threats like Chaos, Necrons, and Orks are wiped from the stars I can turn to the Xenos. Rally everyone and send forth everything into the webway to destroy the DE and Cammoragh. Perhaps at this time the IoM and Xenos races can agree to get along once and for all and we won't have to fight. If not? Massacre them. Sadly. Begin the slow process of perfecting intergalactic travel to reach other galaxies to spread the dominion of Mankind.
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The Tau are genetic masterminds and since they have shown how easily they can make a virus to wipe out the Nids the orks would be extremely easy especially in their spore forms. That would be one area to start research. Science created them and it will be their undoing.
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2016/03/12 14:41:21
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
>Be me
>Be in charge of IoM military and diplomats
>Endless hordes of Green fungi terrorising the citizens
>Send out fungicide on mass
>Some aliens from another galaxy stealing our genes
>"Wut"
>Send millions of jeans to the affected areas
>The golden thrown is failing and our God might die
>Call electrician
>Guys who pray to Gods from another dimension spilling from a whole in reality caused by a bunch of space elves practising BDSM too often
>"What you been smoking mate?"
>Get haf
Those High Lords are crazy man.
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2016/03/12 21:48:05
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
You do realize that the Tau Empire's technology isn't even close to on-par with that of the Imperium, correct?
A. Battle Suits need significantly thicker armour to be equivalent in protection to Power Armour
B. Tau don't have any kind of life-extending technology, a la Rejuvenat treatment
This is somewhat true. The Tau have to mount their plasma guns on vehicles and they still aren't as strong as imperial plasmapistols.
The difference is that Tau tech is understood by their boffins, Imperial tech is millenia of photocopied plans, hearsay and tradition.
Imperial plasma weapons are unstable and rather than risk harm to the weapon, they vent excess heat, endangering the user.
BY DESIGN.
Techpriests having a good long conversation with some earth caste and a good long nose around Tau manufacturing plants would yield great results for the Imperium.
If the techpriests could figure out the plasma instability issue alone, that would be worth the expense of crushing the Tau.
on the other hand, pulse tech approaches the firepower of a heavy bolter in a large rifle or carbine. This could easily phase out the heavy bolter as a support weapon in the guard and leave sacred bolters to the Astartes. Multi-lasers hit harder but lack the penetrative qualities- and they are the size of lascannons.
dusara217 wrote: C. Everything the Tau has as standard-issue is implausible in an Empire that has more people than it does raw materials. For example, Lasguns are literally the ultimate standard-issue weapon, with nigh-infinite ammunition, a durable design, and enough stopping power to put down anything that's human-sized (which is most of what IG fight anyways).
That's all well and good.
dusara217 wrote: Pulse Guns are more expensive, lack the infinite ammo, and require far more maintenance.
That's all true as well. But its more true of plasmaguns and grenade launchers- which is why I suggested that heavy pulse weapons replace these, being as good in most situations, and lighter. Of course for tabletop, where guard need their plasma to stop the power armoured hordes, that won't ring true.
dusara217 wrote: While they are perfectly plausible in an Imperium-spanning spec ops force (a la Astartes or Storm Troopers), most of those forces already have weaponry that perfectly fit their roles (Astartes Bolter = perfect psychological weapon, and highly effective against larger organisms, Hot-shot Lasgun has virtually infinite ammo, with no need to reload power cells, and is pefect for taking down heavily armoured foes, etc.). Even the ability of Tau to stick jetpacks on their battlesuits is due to the fact that Tau use a lightweight material for them that is inferior (in terms of sheer durability and protection capabilities) to Imperial materials for equivalent exo-suits (power Armour, Knights, Dreadnoughts, etc.)
Basically, you grossly overestimate Tau technology. They still need another thousand years or so to be able to out-tech the AdMech, at least three more to be able to understand dark age tech like the Golden Throne or an Ark Mechanicus.
I think they have a lot to offer. I don't think the tech is superior- I think their understanding of it is deeper. Factories set up to build battlesuits and devilfish can still build them, with Imperial improvements. There is a place for their tech and weaponry within the Imperial military, even if there is no place for their species in the God Emperor's galaxy.
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2016/03/14 14:10:40
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
1. Send Cato Sicarius to kill Huron
2. If Cato survives, send him to kill Abaddon
3. If Cato manages to survive that, send him to kill the traitor primarchs
4. If that Ultramarine nuisance is somehow still alive after that, send him to kill chaos. That should keep him busy for a while.
5. Cause a galaxy spanning Hrud migration directed towards the tyranids.
6. In the waste of what remains, take what little is left of mankind and begin the long trek towards the Andromeda Galaxy.
7. Don't forget to stop by Macragge and use torpedoes and lances to engrave a giant hand flipping the bird in the event that Cato somehow manages to survive his last mission. Also a note that says that mankind has gone and is searching for a new place to reforge its empire somewhere in the great beyond but most certainly not in the galaxy next door.
8. Begin anew in the Andromeda galaxy leaving behind the cold husk of the milky way behind.
Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
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2016/03/15 14:07:54
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
King Pariah wrote: 1. Send Cato Sicarius to kill Huron
2. If Cato survives, send him to kill Abaddon
3. If Cato manages to survive that, send him to kill the traitor primarchs
4. If that Ultramarine nuisance is somehow still alive after that, send him to kill chaos. That should keep him busy for a while.
7. Don't forget to stop by Macragge and use torpedoes and lances to engrave a giant hand flipping the bird in the event that Cato somehow manages to survive his last mission.
Aren't you going to do anything about the Cato Sicarius cloning facilities? The Ultramarines 2nd company accounts for nearly 90% of all Ultramarine sightings, it's practically omnipresent. There's no way one man is getting around the galaxy that fast.
2016/03/15 14:12:03
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
King Pariah wrote: 1. Send Cato Sicarius to kill Huron
2. If Cato survives, send him to kill Abaddon
3. If Cato manages to survive that, send him to kill the traitor primarchs
4. If that Ultramarine nuisance is somehow still alive after that, send him to kill chaos. That should keep him busy for a while.
7. Don't forget to stop by Macragge and use torpedoes and lances to engrave a giant hand flipping the bird in the event that Cato somehow manages to survive his last mission.
Aren't you going to do anything about the Cato Sicarius cloning facilities? The Ultramarines 2nd company accounts for nearly 90% of all Ultramarine sightings, it's practically omnipresent. There's no way one man is getting around the galaxy that fast.
Hopefully the galaxy spanning Hrud migration takes care of that.
Besides, if no one else has yet found the cloning facility (facilities), I doubt I will in the span of my lifetime even with the help of stasis pods and rejuvenation therapy
Gods? There are no gods. Merely existences, obstacles to overcome.
"And what if I told you the Wolves tried to bring a Legion to heel once before? What if that Legion sent Russ and his dogs running, too ashamed to write down their defeat in Imperial archives?" - ADB
2016/03/15 14:34:33
Subject: Hypothetical: You're put in charge of the Imperium's forces. What do you do?
Orblivion wrote: 1. Slaughter the Tau, redirect those forces elsewhere afterwards.
2. Give the Necrons a wide berth. Szarekh is trying to gather all of the Necron forces specifically to fight the Tyranids. I say let him.
Wouldn't number 2 result in the Stormlord conquering half of the Ultima Segmentum, though?
Not if Szarekh collects them. Each individual group of Necrons that awaken are an immediate threat to the Imperium, but if you allow Szarekh to gather them together they will not fight the Imperium and will instead attack the Tyranids. Afterwards you would still have to take care of the victor of that fight, but its better than fighting both at the same time.
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