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 Atia wrote:
I'll just leave this here, it's a long list ...

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/575

Order Exodus ^100

Whoa - Waywatchers are on that list to be cut! Do you have thoughts on that, Kan, as I thought you use them pretty heavily in AoS?

Looks like lots of elves being removed (like 15 models/units each from high, wood, and dark) along with a similar number from dwarfs and empire, with a complete removal of Brettonians...

 RiTides wrote:
Whoa - Waywatchers are on that list! Do you have thoughts on that, Kan, as I thought you use them pretty heavily in AoS?

It pisses me off, but I saw it comin'.

When the WE book came out, they were metal.
End Times rolled around, they were metal.
They're still metal now.

It's fine though. I've got all the Waywatchers I could ever feel comfortable using and I have the physical print-out/PDF saved for AOS.

Looks like lots of elves being removed (like 15 models/units each from high, wood, and dark) along with a similar number from dwarfs and empire, with a complete removal of Brettonians...

Yup. It's mostly the old plastics/Finecast/metal stuff from all of the Elves.

While they've not been moved into the 'Last Chance to Buy' category as of yet, a lot of these models have been marked with the 'Last Chance to Buy' icon in the GW webstore.

 Atia wrote:
I'll just leave this here, it's a long list ...

https://war-of-sigmar.herokuapp.com/bloggings/575

Order Exodus ^100

They can't be that silly to axe that much stuff all at the same time can they? Seriously trying to buy up stuff as its marked Last Chance but that's beyond most peoples ability if its all done at the same time...quite sad to see so much stuff being axed like that too..

By the look of things all the knights on horses with lances are going, but the guys on horses with guns are not.

So I'm guessing the new mortal order faction will be a a machinery, magic and magical machinery based force (I'm considering riding a monstrous mount magical).
Leaving the knightly hero role to the Stormcast alone.

I can live with that;
1: the humans/dwarves relying on "tools and ingenuity" to survive or contribute sounds like a workable faction idea
2: The Stormcast are kinda bland looking (as an army) because they are all similar looking golden armour, but if there are a few as the elite troops with men they will stand out nicely.

Agreed.

All stuff that makes sense. They are keeping newer and better designed plastic kits (except for the glade riders which I really like). Anything metal or finecast is going. Sad to see so many great warmachines go. The dwarf ones and the de bolt thrower were pretty nice.

Overall though I'm less bothered by this than by the Tomb Kings being dropped.

Wow! Thats a big cut, I fear for my Orruks now.

 NAVARRO wrote:
Wow! Thats a big cut, I fear for my Orruks now.

Ehhh...Orruks have a Start Collecting set, so the stuff in there at least is safe.

Add in that Savage Orks seem to be getting quite a bit of love from AoS' GW and I think Orruks are going to come out of this fairly well.

Looks like all the Bretonnian stuff is now gone off the website


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 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:
Looks like all the Bretonnian stuff is now gone off the website

Correction, looks like they've all been moved to last Chance to Buy

You can see the cut units on the New Zealand store now. Brets are all in there - Empire lose Knights and Cannon/Mortar plus loads of characters. High Elves seem to lose a lot too.

I need to decide if I want to buy a box of Dwarf miners now - I have the 8 from BFSP which isn't enough to make a basic unit... Hmm

Overall I am happy 90% of the Empire range makes it through intact.

You can see the cut units on the US webstore as well. The cuts always go live the day before.

The only Aelves army to come out relatively okay from this was Dark Elves.

Indeed, 92 items in the last chance to buy for Order now. I kind of wish Chaos and Death had sensible trims like this one seems to be.

Yeah dark elves still lost a lot of characters and their bolt throwers. High Elves basically lost their entire "core" and Wood Elves are now down to 12 units.

Lots of really great kits going the way of the dodo... I might have to pick some up.

Well. I have absolutely no reason to invest another cent into Fantasy. GG, GW.

The only one that really stings for me is the glade riders. That is a really great kit.

They're slowly getting down to a sensible range of models for their Fantasy range. Hopefully they can now keep AoS more reasonable and not bloat it to unsustainable levels... Again.

I assume there are no newer plastic kits here? The Wood Elf kits and Dark Elf kits from their latest releases are amazing, and from what I can see they're all still there.

 Bottle wrote:
Yeah dark elves still lost a lot of characters and their bolt throwers.

Dark Elves basically just lost everything Finecast. No joke. Not a single plastic kit was touched.

High Elves basically lost their entire "core"

And nobody cried a single tear for Gary Morley's Hulk Hand High Elves to finally get gone.

and Wood Elves are now down to 12 units.

Not gonna lie, I'm surprised at how much Wood Elves kept. Especially considering how much of it is actually still metal!
Metal
Metal
Metal

Out of the 11 remaining Wood Elf items(discounting the Compendium obviously), 3 are metal. There's more metal characters than Finecast OR plastic in the Wood Elf range.



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Chikout wrote:
The only one that really stings for me is the glade riders. That is a really great kit.

I politely disagree.

I really wanted to see the Glade Guard gone as well as the Glade Riders. The aesthetic they have and the kits themselves are a bit out of whack when compared to the Eternal Guard, Wildwood Rangers, Sisters of the Thorn, and Wild Riders.

I'm quite surprised (pleasantly) the the excellent Dragon Slayer is sticking around - I wonder if steamhead Duardin still have classic slayers among them?

These are the first cuts where I feel the sting on my projects (though not too strongly) - I have 3 waywatchers and 8 miners which will likely not become full units now. I have 8 Empire knights that I had always wanted to add more to as well.

Can't wait to see the restructured factions now.

I think you will be able to pick up the Empire Knights easily Bottle, they were in so many Empire boxed sets and were around for years, good luck with the others.

Am sad to see the Brettonians and other units go, but am looking forward to whatever new human based analogue GW can come up with.

Yeah the Empire Range did not get cut as badly as I thought it would. I was nervously contemplating getting a box of Pistoliers but they seem save. So I can hold off for now.

That being sad...there are a few things I'll have to grab now. I always wanted the Dwarf on Shield bearers and one last box of Militia just because I love that set!

 Mymearan wrote:
They're slowly getting down to a sensible range of models for their Fantasy range. Hopefully they can now keep AoS more reasonable and not bloat it to unsustainable levels... Again.

There are far from getting close to a sensible amount of models from my PoV. If it's true that for their warehouse it's a decent trimming of the range, for us nearly if not all of these models be they metal/resin or old plastics were already no longer available to stores for quite some time. So my order form will still be as bloated as before, and with GW obsession with selling AoS characters separately instead of as options in the boxes it's not getting better at all.

OTOH I think it's not far fetched to wonder if the faction tomes are being intended to be updated relatively regularly, with another set of new models being added / old models being removed each time.

Altogther, they have cut about 20% of their fantasy range. After destruction gets done it will be about 25%. Honestly I am surprised. When the rumours about a new game started going round I thought that we would be left with 25% of the range, if that. I expect that other kits will gradually fade away over time, like the space marine masters of the chapter.

BOOM! Called it--Dark Elf infantry remains separated.

Also the faction is now called "Darkling Coven"--which lines up neatly with what little we know about the Shadowkin.


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 Wulfson_40K wrote:
So my order form will still be as bloated as before, and with GW obsession with selling AoS characters separately instead of as options in the boxes it's not getting better at all.

What "AoS characters" are they selling you "separately instead of as options in the boxes"?
Genuinely curious here.

 Breotan wrote:
Well. I have absolutely no reason to invest another cent into Fantasy. GG, GW.

I almost felt like writing to GW explaining why they aren't getting my money before I remembered they don't seem to want my money anyway (also, I'm lazy).

I'm waiting & hoping for everyone to dump their Brets on Ebay. If prices are cheap I'll buy a ton. If prices are high I'll sell off everything. Either way I'm happy.

 Kanluwen wrote:

I really wanted to see the Glade Guard gone as well as the Glade Riders. The aesthetic they have and the kits themselves are a bit out of whack when compared to the Eternal Guard, Wildwood Rangers, Sisters of the Thorn, and Wild Riders.

that's like asking all dwarfs to go butt naked and embrace the trojan within

The Empire cannon/ mortar are going? Damn...

I really don't like the new setting/ canon much at all. These cuts just hammer that point home for me even more.

Lothern Sea Guard already sold out. This makes me a sad Elf...excuse me Aelf.

Oh, @RiTides: you can make some pretty sweet Waywatchers by kitbashing the Wildwood Guard with Shadow Warriors.

That's just savage. Oh my. So many iconic unts going away forever. Empire wthout a bog standard canon. What a time to be alive.

I never bought more Brets because I sort of expected this. I have a few lances already, that'll have to be enough. I could've used old Archaon to convert a character though. Always this procastination biting me in the ass

These are truly the End Times.