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Points is a good move, looking forward to that. Let's hope it will actually be balanced

maybe i missed it, but is it just going to be a WD update? or big new rulebook? or just a pdf? Hopefully the latter...

 Necros wrote:
Points is a good move, looking forward to that. Let's hope it will actually be balanced

maybe i missed it, but is it just going to be a WD update? or big new rulebook? or just a pdf? Hopefully the latter...

No word yet necros.


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im curious if the points system does end up being a SCGT rehash I wonder if they will also adopt their rules?
I believe that they ruled abilities with the same name dont stack but the recent gw faq says that there is no limitation on stacking unless specified by the ability.
my bloodbound bloodsecrators sure do hope they stay ruled as gw chose.

New zombies would be amazing - I was considering getting some of the old ones but they look so dated now. It would mark the first AoS models on 25mm... They wouldn't be on 32s right!?!?

 Bottle wrote:
New zombies would be amazing - I was considering getting some of the old ones but they look so dated now. It would mark the first AoS models on 25mm... They wouldn't be on 32s right!?!?

Zombies are available from a variety of companies. Buy those!

The comments about tasty flesh makes me think Ogres. They're the ones with the insatiable demand for people to eat.

Isn't everything going to be consumed by the Great Maw in the end anyways?

Is the Great Maw still a thing?

I'd be curious to see some new zombies, but with the glut of zombie sculpts out there these days (more so due to board games like Zombicide and such) I'm in no rush for more zombies. Would much prefer seeing Ogres get a big size bump.

Heck, I'm curious how the new Orc Brutes stack up to the Ogres. Might be able to replace/ supplement my Ogres with the new Orcs. I've always liked more feral/ wild looking Ogres anyways.

That Megaboss might make a bigger and more imposing Tyrant than the ones we've currently got!

 Fenrir Kitsune wrote:

 Bottle wrote:
New zombies would be amazing - I was considering getting some of the old ones but they look so dated now. It would mark the first AoS models on 25mm... They wouldn't be on 32s right!?!?

Zombies are available from a variety of companies. Buy those!

Sorry, I only buy GW. (I do lots of hobbying in store).


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 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
The comments about tasty flesh makes me think Ogres. They're the ones with the insatiable demand for people to eat.

Isn't everything going to be consumed by the Great Maw in the end anyways?

Is the Great Maw still a thing?

I'd be curious to see some new zombies, but with the glut of zombie sculpts out there these days (more so due to board games like Zombicide and such) I'm in no rush for more zombies. Would much prefer seeing Ogres get a big size bump.

Heck, I'm curious how the new Orc Brutes stack up to the Ogres. Might be able to replace/ supplement my Ogres with the new Orcs. I've always liked more feral/ wild looking Ogres anyways.

That Megaboss might make a bigger and more imposing Tyrant than the ones we've currently got!

The brutes are 40mms so I imagine they are the same size almost. Some head swaps could make amazing conversions!

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
The comments about tasty flesh makes me think Ogres. They're the ones with the insatiable demand for people to eat.

Isn't everything going to be consumed by the Great Maw in the end anyways?

Is the Great Maw still a thing?

Ah, that's a good point! I think someone else mentioned Ogres earlier, too... that matches the hint text better than Undead, imo. Particularly (as already pointed out) the word "tasty"

Changing the title accordingly!

Yeah actually looking at the quote again it could very well be a new Ogre unit. Now That is something I'd like to see

Ogres would make sense timing wise too with the destruction book coming out

I never know what to predict anymore, but it might be a re-boxing to rounds and a Start Collecting for Ogres? Would be a good accompaniment for GA: Destruction.

Also, with AoS Maneaters being more a unit than solos, I would LOVE for a super characterful box akin to the 40k Flashgitz.

I've been wondering what a Start Collecting: Ogors would even consist of.

The way everything is based off the basic Bull body, and depending on what else they want to toss in, like a sprue of Irongut or Leadbelcher parts, could be interesting.

Maybe some Mournfangs while they're at it?

I am a bit torn about AoS designs... It's very clear to me the mandate is to re-do everything that was not able to be 100% locked in as GW IP. So that means that not only are all the factions renamed, but in a lot of cases fundamentally re-designed too to add in 'unique elements'.

While I do like a lot of new stuff, and some not so much, it saddens me to see that WHFB is truly intended to be dead and gone. Feels a bit like throwing the baby out with the bathwater, all thanks to that pointless ChapterHouse lawsuit...

It may not make the most business sense, at least from a very conservative perspective, but I tend to like more distinctive rather than more generic designs. I think AoS is largely moving away from the latter and towards the former, even as the setting itself might be considered more generic compared to the 30YW-esque look of the Old World (although that is also debatable).

 MajorTom11 wrote:
I am a bit torn about AoS designs... It's very clear to me the mandate is to re-do everything that was not able to be 100% locked in as GW IP.

Too bad it didn't work that well. Pretty much only thing that stops other companies making good count as sigmarines or fyreslayers is...It ain't worth the money.

If there's money to be made there will be competition. And all GW can then do is provide best quality for the money to attract people buy their models than others.

Everything seems to be getting a "heroic" up sizing, though GW minis were already bigger than most.

If it's a new Ogre unit, they would be in the Grand Alliance book, right? If so, we should have some spoilers soon, when the first guys get their copy early.

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Everything seems to be getting a "heroic" up sizing, though GW minis were already bigger than most.

wasn't this disproven through some side by sides with bloodbound and fyreslayers vs older minis?
I thought that the general consensus was that they only seem bigger since they are no longer restricted to regimental static poses?

While everything is getting even more heroic in terms of size, have we seen an actual, regular, human at this point?

I think it would be pretty cool if when the time comes, the average human are the same size as most of the current range. I wouldn't consider the Bloodbound to be normal humans at this point, but more roided out full of grimdark angst and rage types more than anything.

Heck, even the Fyreslayers aren't that drastically large compared to their old "Duardin" brothers. Their helmets, mohawks, and gear on the other hand...

 usernamesareannoying wrote:

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
Everything seems to be getting a "heroic" up sizing, though GW minis were already bigger than most.

wasn't this disproven through some side by sides with bloodbound and fyreslayers vs older minis?
I thought that the general consensus was that they only seem bigger since they are no longer restricted to regimental static poses?

It was. But seems like nobody wants to admit it.

 Hanskrampf wrote:
If it's a new Ogre unit, they would be in the Grand Alliance book, right? If so, we should have some spoilers soon, when the first guys get their copy early.

Not necessarily in the Grand Alliance book--especially if we end up seeing a new Ogre subfaction(like Ironjawz).

One of the audiodramas has Ogres with huge slabs of metal serving as shock troops for the rest of Ogres to follow behind.

I can imagine that any new Ogre (Ogor?) release will follow the pattern for most of the AOS releases and deliberately be 40k conversion fodder. I wouldn't be at all surprised if any forthcoming Ogre models are pretty Ogryny in appearance, for example.

Cool, if you ask me!

 Kanluwen wrote:

 Hanskrampf wrote:
If it's a new Ogre unit, they would be in the Grand Alliance book, right? If so, we should have some spoilers soon, when the first guys get their copy early.

Not necessarily in the Grand Alliance book--especially if we end up seeing a new Ogre subfaction(like Ironjawz).

One of the audiodramas has Ogres with huge slabs of metal serving as shock troops for the rest of Ogres to follow behind.

Sounds like Bullgryns! Haha

Ogors could be pretty interesting too!

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:
So they are revising the game, providing 3 types of ways to play, and people are complaining because their preferred type is now one of 3 instead of sole or non-existent...

Heah. Must say that i also find it absurd. Even more considering that those playing narratives game are probably doing so in a tight knotted group, so i doubt introducing points will change anything for them.

 streetsamurai wrote:
so i doubt introducing points will change anything for them

It depends on the extent to which considering points on the back end starts influencing design on the front end, which (given GW's track record with 40k) seems doubtful. Even so, the concern is that the brand will become dominated by the PUG mentality - points don't add any mechanical "balance" to 40k, for example, but most people seem to think 40k is a PUG anyway.

I wonder how those new Orruks compare to 40K Ork Nobs? If they're similar size you could make some pretty cool armoured nob kitbashes.

 Crimson wrote:
I wonder how those new Orruks compare to 40K Ork Nobs? If they're similar size you could make some pretty cool armoured nob kitbashes.

brutes (regular ones) are 40mm, bosses are 60mm.

so i gues its warboss and bigger.

Hopefully some fine Dakkanaut will take size comparison pics compared to an Ork Boy / Nob / Warboss (or ideally all 3!) upon release . Could definitely make for some sweet conversions!