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The sizes of the brutes and Megaboss are just on target. Brutes are not ridiculous big and actually its just a change of leg style in comparison with Borcs and the MegaB is OTT big, just like the general of your orruk army should be.

I will insta buy this sunova If it has an acceptable Path of Glory campaign. Especially so if it also extends to other factions (with Gifts from their specific deities Gork and Mork, Tyrion, Allariele, Sigmar, etc)

And before you say it - I know it's unlikely, let me dream!

Holy Hell that Orc Megaboss is huge....easily the size of an Ogre.

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
I will insta buy this sunova If it has an acceptable Path of Glory campaign. Especially so if it also extends to other factions (with Gifts from their specific deities Gork and Mork, Tyrion, Allariele, Sigmar, etc)

And before you say it - I know it's unlikely, let me dream!

that's what everyone said about points. I'll keep my fingers crossed for you

 NAVARRO wrote:
The sizes of the brutes and Megaboss are just on target. Brutes are not ridiculous big and actually its just a change of leg style in comparison with Borcs and the MegaB is OTT big, just like the general of your orruk army should be.

 Commodus Leitdorf wrote:
Holy Hell that Orc Megaboss is huge....easily the size of an Ogre.

I know, right!?

I'm actually really happy with the size of the Brutes (not too big) and the Boss (abso-fething-lutely massive )

I dropped the pic into the OP for now just so it doesn't get buried... thanks again for the find red!

So with a few people confirming a "Path of Glory" system... can someone explain that for those of us without experience with it?

I take it its some kind of RPG-progression-based, multi-game campaign?

 Lithlandis Stormcrow wrote:
I will insta buy this sunova If it has an acceptable Path of Glory campaign. Especially so if it also extends to other factions (with Gifts from their specific deities Gork and Mork, Tyrion, Allariele, Sigmar, etc)

And before you say it - I know it's unlikely, let me dream!

That would be cool. I never really understood why GW was obsessed with limiting the idea of 'small warband levels up' games to only Chaos; there are so many cool Human and Elf hero models that would cry out for this kind of thing!

NewTruthNeomaxim wrote:
So with a few people confirming a "Path of Glory" system... can someone explain that for those of us without experience with it?

I take it its some kind of RPG-progression-based, multi-game campaign?

Starting with a small warband and rolling on various charts for bonuses and adding to your retinue, getting more stuff as games go on and get bigger. Miniwargaming did an AoS path to glory series of battle reports, was better than their usual coverage I thought. I'm expecting similar in this general's handbook, really excited for that part.

 Mymearan wrote:
I've listened to the entire podcast. The main thing that struck me was that it doesn't seem like these guys will actually be involved in continued development of the game and points system. They basically got to come in for a one-day play session to meet the designers and give feedback on what GW had at the time and their thoughts about the whole process, but they certainly won't be using SCGT comp or any existing points system, and it won't be further developed by the community but by GW. I could be wrong but nothing I heard on the podcast indicated otherwise. It's obviously still a big deal that they even did this, but I like many others sort of assumed the points system and competitive side would be continuously developed along with the community. It could obviously be that they will be involved but can't talk about it.

One thing that really illustrated how different GWs thought process is to many GW gamers is Jervis thoughts on how Warhammer is about two "directors" meeting and creating a battle together. I thought of dakka when I heard that, and smiled :-D

Well since this is book format guess it was inevitable. Simple logistics takes time. This was probably started around november +-1 month and that's FAST project from start to release. Wonder if physical books have already started long sail from China?

For points for sure would have been most sensible to keep them in online format.

 reds8n wrote:

 RiTides wrote:
Hopefully some fine Dakkanaut will take size comparison pics compared to an Ork Boy / Nob / Warboss (or ideally all 3!) upon release . Could definitely make for some sweet conversions!

not quite what you asked for but this popped up on FB

Holy Gork! That guy will definitely be my new Warboss. I think I will arm him with a Klaw and twinlinked shoota, then I could use him either with 'eavy armor or megaarmor - I don't think anyone could argue against that.

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
wow that boss is huge!
I love the fact that the ironjawz seem to have moved away from the squat gorilla stance and seem to be more towards a normal walking stance.
ive been hoping for that for ages.

Yep, I've always hated the poo-pose and turkey neck on the older orcs...this is a vast improvement. Although Oldhammer orks (and goblins!) are equally awesome. It's just those Middlehammer plastic orks that look horrible.

I've got to admit - points and a 'Path to Glory' campaign have me taking another look at AoS...

Gotta find out how those Brutes stack up to the Ogre bulls.

That Path of Glory sound pretty cool. It's what I like about systems like Song of Blades & Heroes. Start with some basic mooks, and get them all sorts of bling and flash if they manage to survive.

Doubly so if it means I can limit the game to a much smaller number of figures (as we're all likely to have handfuls of models painted as opposed to giant armies).

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Gotta find out how those Brutes stack up to the Ogre bulls.

That Path of Glory sound pretty cool. It's what I like about systems like Song of Blades & Heroes. Start with some basic mooks, and get them all sorts of bling and flash if they manage to survive.

Doubly so if it means I can limit the game to a much smaller number of figures (as we're all likely to have handfuls of models painted as opposed to giant armies).

Yeah PoG is fun way to start armies. Which is why it being chaos only was oddity. Okay so thematically it fits REALLY well for chaos but surely it can thematically work for others.

The Path to Glory ebook from the Advent Calendar is what turned my attention back to Age of Sigmar after having it wane in the post-release flurry of $75 books.

You pick a god and a champion and that sets how many choices you get on a few tables (based on chosen god) to build your warband.

After each game you can choose to either add a unit or buff existing ones. Your champion also gains power.

You're working to get 10 favor from your chosen god (by playing games) at which point your champion becomes a daemon prince and the first person to win a game with a DP wins the campaign.

The ebook also has a neat D66 name generator. I got bored at work one day and made a web app version.

Really excited about the possibility for similar stuff for non-Chaos factions.

Is there a link to the current chaos one?

I've been painting an awful lot of Chaos stuff lately. Wouldn't mind trying it out.

tneva82 wrote:

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Gotta find out how those Brutes stack up to the Ogre bulls.

That Path of Glory sound pretty cool. It's what I like about systems like Song of Blades & Heroes. Start with some basic mooks, and get them all sorts of bling and flash if they manage to survive.

Doubly so if it means I can limit the game to a much smaller number of figures (as we're all likely to have handfuls of models painted as opposed to giant armies).

Yeah PoG is fun way to start armies. Which is why it being chaos only was oddity. Okay so thematically it fits REALLY well for chaos but surely it can thematically work for others.

I am pretty sure that other deities do bless their chosen warriors. and you can always grant them the same bonus with different names - ranks, magical weapons, etc etc.

1) Those Brutes are cool, roughly Nob sized, I think? I thought they'd be bigger.

2) Their mass is not so great that I can swallow 5 being almost as expensive as 15 BlOrcs, though.

3) Boss Claw looks laughable.

4) I want, want, want that Megaboss, who is indeed MEGA. But that price.

 Alpharius wrote:
I've got to admit - points and a 'Path to Glory' campaign have me taking another look at AoS...

Indeed, at this point I'm now ready to commit to AoS, which is exciting as this time last week I wouldn't have touched it with a barge pole.

Hmmmm.. I wonder now that i've seen more pics and 360s etc if using these Orruks and bits of them in 40k is actually viable then. D: That Mega-boss on Maw-Krusha looked like he'd make such an awesome Warboss at first for 40k but now seeing his armour and bareback it looks too primitive for regular 40k Orkz? D:

 MeanGreenStompa wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:
I've got to admit - points and a 'Path to Glory' campaign have me taking another look at AoS...

Indeed, at this point I'm now ready to commit to AoS, which is exciting as this time last week I wouldn't have touched it with a barge pole.

This. For the longest time WHFB was my bread and butter and I would play 40k every once and a while, but not nearly as much as fantasy (I know I'm in the minority). Once AoS dropped, being the loya GW fanboy that I am, I bought the starter box (still sitting on sprues), and gave it a whirl with my existing models. While I actually thought the game mechanics were fun and fast paced, the lack of a point system really turned me off. I did an FLGS Azyr Comp campaign which was pretty fun, but again with existing models, and haven't touched AoS since, or bought a single new model. Before AoS, the vast majority of my hobby money went into Fantasy with a bit here and there into 40k. Now, I hardly buy anything.

With GW listening to our concerns and finally putting points out for this game, I think I'm ready to jump back into the fold and actually buy some new models as well. What I think GW missed out on with players like myself, is even if on only play a few times a year, still enjoy list building and coming up with fun new army combinations under a point limit. I'm glad I can do that again.

 highlord tamburlaine wrote:
Is there a link to the current chaos one?

I've been painting an awful lot of Chaos stuff lately. Wouldn't mind trying it out.

I can only find this

https://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Path-to-Glory-Warhammer-Age-of-Sigmar-Tablet-Edition

They charge 5 bucks for that.

this is great. i'm suddenly interested in AoS...

do you think the warscroll prices will include ALL the warscrolls, including those for now discontinued miniatures?

ninepaces wrote:
this is great. i'm suddenly interested in AoS...

do you think the warscroll prices will include ALL the warscrolls, including those for now discontinued miniatures?

That is confirmed, yes.

great.. feth it then lets do it.


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feth it, not feth it.

Yeah, that's the language filter.

I'm actually getting more excited. It's actually not going to be a slapshod production. Confirmation from the SCGT guys that they were reached out to prior to this and that the guys writing the points/system play in tournaments and events is also good news.

I'm hoping it catches on. This would be the perfect middle game for me between WoK and KoW. It would also probably get played almost as much if not more than both.

General's Handbook

From the Spikeybits Forum




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Oh it was already posted on the previous page, sorry

Also interesting is the timing as this may not have been related to sales (it likely started only a couple months after release) but of, again, the change in leadership. Given the lead time for writing rules, communicating with the community, getting it together, getting it printed and then getting it shipped isn't a fast process.

 Hulksmash wrote:
Also interesting is the timing as this may not have been related to sales (it likely started only a couple months after release) but of, again, the change in leadership. Given the lead time for writing rules, communicating with the community, getting it together, getting it printed and then getting it shipped isn't a fast process.

Then again sales looked to be pretty bad right from the get-go...

But yeah something happened to make GW alter radically their plan unless they had idea to release this before game was even released!