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I expected the Retribution battleship to have a really devastating broadside but it was not all that impressive really.

 Ashiraya wrote:
I expected the Retribution battleship to have a really devastating broadside but it was not all that impressive really.

it has the lowest dps per point in the entire game. Taking it is just asking to lose.

You'd be better off spamming escorts than using most IN line ships.

I take it in every match I play as Imperium because it's just too damn cool not to.

But it direly needs buffs.

And Eldar need nerfs. They are just too resiiient with their holofields, especially when upgraded, and focused pulsar fire puts out insane burst.

 Selym wrote:

 Ashiraya wrote:
I expected the Retribution battleship to have a really devastating broadside but it was not all that impressive really.

it has the lowest dps per point in the entire game. Taking it is just asking to lose.

You'd be better off spamming escorts than using most IN line ships.

So it sounds like it's identical to the actual table top game as well.

I loved the idea of the Retribution, but he Emperor could almost put out just as much firepower, and still had the massive attack craft capacity as well.

The devs of this game are awkward. They make a lot of changes from the TT, some are necessary, some were just choices. But they keep the retty terrible because "that's how it was in the TT".
Ugh.

Well, if they don't balance the multiplayer it's going to die within weeks.

History has shown that bad multiplayer just doesn't get used, especially not when the title is already a niche one.

Eldar are really crazy, online its not as bad as vs the AI playing Eldar. The AI plays Eldar like a swarm of wolf sized bees.

I should not be able to just fly blindly at a large formation of Imperial Navy cruisers and a battleship, and sweep the floor with them as the eldar without having to even manovuer my ships. So I sincerely hope they balance this out, but as the game launches tomorrow I am somewhat sceptical. But hoping they drop a day 1 one patch that remedies this

Another thing they should fix is torpedoes. Having them drift further apart is not how things work in space.

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Another thing they should fix is torpedoes. Having them drift further apart is not how things work in space.

It is when you fire them at that angle to begin with.

The reason for the torpedo spread is to help you hit and it allows eldar that have more accurate torpedoes to remain tight grouped basicly blame eldar lol

The imperial battleships where crap on TT apart from the one they brought out near the end of the game with all the lances.

I want grand cruisers sneaked in

To be honest I feel the game needs more classes regardless of what the TT had and it seriously needs a bigger fleet builder as in able have more than 4 cruisers ,2 hvy cruisers

Found that the special abilities are devastating and may need turned down a little.

As for eldar find them OK to fight against if your choas found mark of nurgle and lances are your friend here. Imperial against eldar is difficult.

I really hate convoy duty missions

Today is release day, cant see them pushing it back but Eldar certainly are nowhere near balanced. Still, I'm looking forward to the campaign, the intro was to my liking.

Edit: Convoy defence is seriously broken. You only need to get 3 ships across, so park 3 on one end and 3 on the other while your whole fleet camps one. Have fun winning against that as the attacker, he would need his whole fleet to fight yours. But he cant cause then the other 3 unprotected ones slip over. Certainly now with the transport upgrades.

Imperial against eldar is difficult.

yep but can be fun -they do explode quite nicely - especially when novas hit escorts

 Disciple of Fate wrote:
Today is release day, cant see them pushing it back but Eldar certainly are nowhere near balanced. Still, I'm looking forward to the campaign, the intro was to my liking.

Edit: Convoy defence is seriously broken. You only need to get 3 ships across, so park 3 on one end and 3 on the other while your whole fleet camps one. Have fun winning against that as the attacker, he would need his whole fleet to fight yours. But he cant cause then the other 3 unprotected ones slip over. Certainly now with the transport upgrades.

Hilariously, it used to be argued that the attacker had an enormous advantage in that misson. Mostly because the majority of players couldn't figure out how to play it.

So the transporters got a speed and durability buff, and in the last patch were allowed to take upgrades...

I'm still getting the Beta. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall the game to get the full version?

 Disciple of Fate wrote:
Today is release day, cant see them pushing it back but Eldar certainly are nowhere near balanced. Still, I'm looking forward to the campaign, the intro was to my liking.

Edit: Convoy defence is seriously broken. You only need to get 3 ships across, so park 3 on one end and 3 on the other while your whole fleet camps one. Have fun winning against that as the attacker, he would need his whole fleet to fight yours. But he cant cause then the other 3 unprotected ones slip over. Certainly now with the transport upgrades.

Tried that ....... your opponent will know where the group of 3 transports are on their own as opposed to the big group of ships and can send a ship or two to kill them - he then only needs to kill one defended transport........that's not that hard with a fleet......

When the game reboots - I might try a group of escorts as a decoy/ q ship..................

 djones520 wrote:
I'm still getting the Beta. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall the game to get the full version?

Not sure but its not fully out till 6pm UK time I believe

Gotcha, so 5 more hours or so.

 djones520 wrote:
I'm still getting the Beta. Do I need to uninstall and reinstall the game to get the full version?

Highly unlikely, it will probably be nothing more than a patch.

Pretty big patch though - 1.7 GB

You can prepatch at least

Well its unlocked and the campaign is severely underwhelming. It is nothing more than linked skirmish maps, which are still mostly broken (good luck completing data recovery maps against Chaos.....), and it also means that Battlefleet Gothic apparently spends much of its time fighting Imperial ships......

Meh.

Low level mp seems to be going alright with a bunch of buffs for IN, and some eldar tweaks.

CC missions seem to be far more common than before.

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Disciple of Fate wrote:
Today is release day, cant see them pushing it back but Eldar certainly are nowhere near balanced. Still, I'm looking forward to the campaign, the intro was to my liking.

Edit: Convoy defence is seriously broken. You only need to get 3 ships across, so park 3 on one end and 3 on the other while your whole fleet camps one. Have fun winning against that as the attacker, he would need his whole fleet to fight yours. But he cant cause then the other 3 unprotected ones slip over. Certainly now with the transport upgrades.

Tried that ....... your opponent will know where the group of 3 transports are on their own as opposed to the big group of ships and can send a ship or two to kill them - he then only needs to kill one defended transport........that's not that hard with a fleet......

When the game reboots - I might try a group of escorts as a decoy/ q ship..................

Hmm when I use it they usually have enough time to cross the line before 1 LC, if he needs 2 he lacks 250 points versus your fleet so I engage, can do enough damage. Might depend on the opponent, Orks are devastating, but with the right upgrades (extra hp, shields and extra combustion gauge) they seem to make it allright.

 Selym wrote:

 Disciple of Fate wrote:
Today is release day, cant see them pushing it back but Eldar certainly are nowhere near balanced. Still, I'm looking forward to the campaign, the intro was to my liking.

Edit: Convoy defence is seriously broken. You only need to get 3 ships across, so park 3 on one end and 3 on the other while your whole fleet camps one. Have fun winning against that as the attacker, he would need his whole fleet to fight yours. But he cant cause then the other 3 unprotected ones slip over. Certainly now with the transport upgrades.

Hilariously, it used to be argued that the attacker had an enormous advantage in that misson. Mostly because the majority of players couldn't figure out how to play it.

So the transporters got a speed and durability buff, and in the last patch were allowed to take upgrades...

The tooltip is also still somewhat confusing to people. Most used to think they needed to only destroy 3 instead of 4 ships, leading to a giant charge at the undefended transports and then being left behind realizing their mistake.

 Silent Puffin? wrote:
You can prepatch at least

Well its unlocked and the campaign is severely underwhelming. It is nothing more than linked skirmish maps, which are still mostly broken (good luck completing data recovery maps against Chaos.....), and it also means that Battlefleet Gothic apparently spends much of its time fighting Imperial ships......

Meh.

Thats dissapointing, I really hoped from the intro that they had put some effort into the campaign. Shame they lazied out.

First video is live

 Disciple of Fate wrote:

Meh.

Thats dissapointing, I really hoped from the intro that they had put some effort into the campaign. Shame they lazied out.

I just expected it to be like Empire.

I want you to, like, be able to hold fire with your Retribution, drive up to that light cruiser, and unleash a full point blank broadside and blow it to tiny pieces.

But its broadside is fairly unimpressive still. :(

For those interested, final part of my playthrough. Campaign was fantastic, cannot wait until they add more to this. Onwards to the MP side of things now

I am enjoying the Multiplayer immensely Only done a bit of the campaign so far.

I have given up on this game. Mission balance is terrible and I get a fatal error far too often. I may go back to it in a few months once its been patched.

Yeah, issues abound everywhere. The game has issues working out how manyships were damaged or destroyed or lost each game, occasionally assigns random fleet points, the missions are imbalanced...

Oh snd sometimes it will randomly detonate your ships just as you are about to win.

But it is sooo much fun! I love that even multiplayer is predicated on a campaign system. Admittedly, I can't play the campaign because the first mission keeps bugging out. It's beautiful though, and it is a blast!