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**Ashiraya**

They have good armor but pretty low HP values (an ork light cruiser has twice the HP of an SM light cruiser) which makes them super vulnerable to torpedoes, pulsars, lances, etc etc.

**BrookM**

Tried them once, didn't like them.

I'm sticking with the Imperial Navy, which more suits my uncreative and limited tactical mindset.

**godardc**

I'm very annoyed by the new homing torpedoes, aren't you ?

**BrookM**

I'm more annoyed that my Imperial Navy ships with the right upgrade, who are supposed to be immune to insubordination, still do so.

**MadMuzza**

Space Marine fleet overview, love how brawler the SM fleet is in this game

**ph34r**

BrookM wrote:
I'm more annoyed that my Imperial Navy ships with the right upgrade, who are supposed to be immune to insubordination, still do so.

Your Imperial Navy ships are going insubordinate?

Is this only in the case of the Librarian power? I would consider that valid, they are battle-disciplined to the maximum not psychically shielded.

First post in this thread, but overall I am loving this game. SM fit their niche great and are really tempered by the lower HP, Eldar are in a good place, I love my Imperial Navy fleet for calling in cobra reinforcements all over the place, my Chaos nurgle carrier fleet is super fun. I don't care much for orks either way but they are fun to fight.

**Ashiraya**

The Space Marines are superfun.

My Battle Barge is tanky beyond anything even the Orks can imagine.

**Formosa**

Wow, I've got to say Marines are pretty good so far, the patch that just came out buffed them again even further, fixing the bombardment cannon

**godardc**

What was the problem with the cannon ?

**Nevelon**

Is the early adopter thing over? IIRC they said the pre-order benefits would also apply to those who picked it soon after launch.

Just curious if that’s still a thing. That and the steam sale would help push me into picking this up.

**Liberal_Perturabo**

Nevelon wrote:
Is the early adopter thing over? IIRC they said the pre-order benefits would also apply to those who picked it soon after launch.

Just curious if that’s still a thing. That and the steam sale would help push me into picking this up.

No, it ended with the space marines DLC coming out.
However, the DLC itself is only 5 USD base, so is is actually slightly cheaper for you to buy the game + SM DLC at a discount + Tau DLC when it comes out, rather then if you got yourself an early adopters vesion

**Formosa**

godardc wrote:
What was the problem with the cannon ?

It didn't effect armour the way it was supposed to, so armour would stop most of the damage when it would hit, now it actually ignores all bar 25 armour as it should

**godardc**

Formosa wrote:
godardc wrote:
What was the problem with the cannon ?

It didn't effect armour the way it was supposed to, so armour would stop most of the damage when it would hit, now it actually ignores all bar 25 armour as it should

Oh, ok thanks.
I may try a SM fleet soon, and I absolutely do not want to play all homing torpedoes, so that's fine.

I had great success with my Eldars fleet recently, but I think my opponents have no fun against me, because of how I play Eldars.

I had strategy yersteday, it worked three or four time very efficiently, and it was very simple: I just hid several ships (one of the favour help for this) and reveal the others, but at the opposite of the battlefield (some ships revealed on the left flank and some others hid on the right flank, for example).

I attacked with my revealed ships, my opponent made his transports / capital ship flee to the opposite, right in the trap, while his ships fought mine on the left flank, and I destroyed the target.

However, I found that the SM fleet hard counter my Eldars: they are almost as quick, and even quicker when they "full speed ahead !" as my ships, so they can chase me, they have A LOT of homing torpedoes, and, as Eldars' ships have no shield, they always put beacons (I don't remember the exact word) on my ships, making them impossible to hide, they have A LOT of thunderhawks, so I have to use my launch bays to defend my ships instead of bombing them, etc..

NOTE: I'm not complaining^^ just sharing my feeling.

Do you have the same feeling about the Space Marines / Eldars ?

**Gitzbitah**

I must say, it really feels like the Orks got a major buff from this last patch- either in escort ship cost, or just sheer quality of upgrades. I'm really pleased with the boost to my ships' performance, and the slowing Zzap guns- which all of my ships can now be upgraded to carry.

Anyone else find the Greenskins got some serious love?

**godardc**

Yeah, the orks are really powerful. Too powerful, in fact.

It isn't even funny anymore^^

I win almost everytime with my orks, without using zzap or byzarboy tower. I think their cost is underestimated, they should cost more.

(I made a Blood Axe fleet, my opponents are quite surprised^^ )

**Selym**

Does the Retty kill stuff yet? I've been waiting to hear something other than "IN is pretty gakky" since release. Haven't played BFG in ages.

**Xenomancers**

For me there is no point in playing the game until they fix space marine homing boarding torpedoes - it is an absolute auto win tactic.

**Gitzbitah**

At least it does require targeting now- but yeah, a few of those escorts of theirs on auto fire in each corner makes the game quite unpleasant. While their cruisers just dance around your fleet.

**godardc**

I agree, homing torpedoes are a pain.

**Ashiraya**

You can dodge them by timing a burst of speed or quick turn, and you get a new chance to destroy them each time they enter turret range.

That said, yes, they are a bit good... But are they any better than that ork escort with an insane 96 damage cannon?

**Xenomancers**

Ashiraya wrote:
You can dodge them by timing a burst of speed or quick turn, and you get a new chance to destroy them each time they enter turret range.

That said, yes, they are a bit good... But are they any better than that ork escort with an insane 96 damage cannon?

Orks are also extremely OP. I have an Ork fleet and it literally never loses or comes close to losing vs anything - but then I run into a Space Marine torp spam fleet and I am destroyed before I even have a chance to fire....I mean - in general the orks can be beat. Chaos and imperials can beat them - it's just a lot harder than it should be for them. Nothing beats that torp spam. It is relentless automatic damage. You might be able to dodge the first round but eventually you are just surrounded by torps. Space marines outside of torp spam need massive buffs though - they are actually the most fragile fleet with the least damage - why homing torps? Just make bombardment cannons deadly and make their ships actually tough to kill.

**Mr Morden**

Anyone else trying the cool mod?

**godardc**

Mr Morden wrote:
Anyone else trying the cool mod?

The cool mod ? I haven't played Battlefleet this month, is there something new ?

**Mr Morden**

godardc wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
Anyone else trying the cool mod?

The cool mod ? I haven't played Battlefleet this month, is there something new ?

yeah a ocuiple of people have made a big mod that allows lots of extra stuff, new ships, bigger games - etc

http://forum.battlefleetgothic-armada.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=515

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**marv335**

I'm downloading the game to my Steam account now.
Looks like it'll be fun.
I was a huge BFG fan back when it first came out ,I found my fleet last time I was rooting through my storage locker.

**Ashiraya**

So I tried one of the new ranked matches. Got assassination defense. Faced a SM player who drowned me in boarding torpedoes, since he gets automatic vision of my flagship. Never even bothered to get close enough to shoot anything else than torpedoes, and he won anyway. What the

? They at least shouldn't be able to interrupt warping out.

**Mr Morden**

Need to get some games in

**Kap'n Krump**

I got a couple hours into the campaign, and to be honest, it wasn't really clicking with me. The combat was just decent.

And as odd as it seemed, orks seemed WAAAAAAAY OP. Their tiny attack craft can ram my heavy cruisers for like 25% of their hp without taking any damage in return, and I simply can't match that damage output, and I can't kill them before getting into ramming distance, and I can't evade the rams.

And when fighting the larger ork vessels with decent guns, armor, AND the ability to ram my ships for obscene amounts of free damage, I'm not sure how I'm supposed to win.

**Ashiraya**

I tried another ranked match, said feth it, and took a SM boarding torpedo spamlist of my own.

Faced the same guy again, incredibly. This time he got dumpster'd - I won both matches with no ship losses.

I suppose I know what the meta is now...

**Mr Morden**

Tried a couple of ranked games as Imperial- played the same Ork player twice - got slaughtered at range......but then I hate fighting Orks