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Made in jp
Regular Dakkanaut





"If a Transport is destroyed by a shooting attack, any unit that shot it that turn can, if
allowed, charge the now disembarked passengers."

In a friendly pleasant game today I wasn't allowed to charge disembarked passengers with the same unit that blew up the transport. Am I missing something? Seems fairly clear cut to me.
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut




No, they're playing 4th ed rules.
   
Made in jp
Regular Dakkanaut





Just for clarity - the "it" most definitely refers to the transport right?
   
Made in gb
Decrepit Dakkanaut




Yes, it is the transport. You were absolutely right. They're just 3 editions out of date.
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




So you can pop a transport with a dread and then charge the guys inside with the dread?

   
Made in ca
Longtime Dakkanaut





Grief wrote:
So you can pop a transport with a dread and then charge the guys inside with the dread?


Yes, that is correct. However, it has to "pop the transport" (or at least have shot at it) during the shooting phase for this to be true. It can't pop the transport during the assault phase and then also charge the guys inside.

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Not as Good as a Minion





Astonished of Heck

Was there another reason they could not have Charged? Weapons fired, Range, etc.

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Made in jp
Regular Dakkanaut





relentless crisis suits so i think they were ok.
   
Made in us
Krazed Killa Kan





Denver, Colorado

Slightly off topic, but worth mentioning: Take, for instance, a group of tac marines with a meltagun and bolters shoot at a battlewagon. Meltagun goes first, blows up the battlewagon, ork boyz get out.

The remaining marines cannot fire bolters at the disembarking passengers, as they have to fire at the same target, and their target (the BW) is now destroyed.

They may charge the ork boyz that turn, unless something else prevents it.

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Made in us
Lord Commander in a Plush Chair






You are correct. The bolters aren't even just not fired; you haven't even made it to the selecting them as a weapon to fire step yet(you repeat the shooting steps for selecting a weapon through removing casualties in sequence, never selecting all the weapons first).

So if the only weapon fired at the transport was an assault weapon, or any weapon by a relentless/slow and purposeful model; you have no charge restrictions on the now disembarked unit based on weapons shot(any other restrictions may still apply)

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Upstate, New York

Charistoph wrote:Was there another reason they could not have Charged? Weapons fired, Range, etc.


peirceg wrote:relentless crisis suits so i think they were ok.


You didn’t deep strike that turn I assume?

The permission to charge passengers won’t override other restrictions preventing you from charging.

   
 
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